1995-07-02 – Elaine Stevens – Future and Past Lives

Show: Dreamland

Air Date: July 2, 1995

Guest(s): Elaine Stevens

Topic(s): Future and Past Lives

Art Bell opens with a warm greeting from the high desert, introducing a diverse lineup for the evening. The show begins with a house report from their affiliate in Roswell, New Mexico, followed by a conversation with Peter Davenport, director of the National UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, amidst a surge of UFO sightings. Art then welcomes a series of new radio stations to the Dreamland network, highlighting its rapid growth and unique content. Linda Moulton Howe is introduced with a special report from Roswell, detailing the 50th anniversary of the famous UFO incident, featuring parades, art fairs, and serious discussions about the 1947 event. She interviews nuclear physicist Stanton Friedman about the ongoing government investigation into the Roswell crash, hinting at potential new findings and discussing the delay of the GAO report.

The discussion continues with Stanton Friedman elaborating on the possible reasons for the delayed GAO report, including potential interference from the Air Force and the sensational impact of English footage allegedly showing non-human bodies and an autopsy. Despite modern technology’s advantages, Friedman points out the rampant misinformation on the internet and clarifies that while he met with the footage owner, he never saw the actual footage. Speculation arises about the film’s authenticity and the motives behind its release, possibly tied to a broader strategy to debunk UFO reports. Art emphasizes the government’s persistent secrecy and the complications it causes for UFO researchers. Linda Howe reveals insights from an alleged insider, suggesting the emergence of more credible information in the future, possibly as a test of public reaction. The conversation concludes with hope that by the 50th anniversary of the Roswell incident in 1997, more substantial evidence might surface, potentially leading to a significant disclosure from the U.S. government.

The program proceeds with Art introducing Peter Davenport, the director of the National UFO Reporting Center in Seattle. Peter discusses the recent surge in UFO reports, noting the hotline’s overwhelming activity over the past four months. He highlights a significant cluster of sightings on March 15th, where a blue-green, egg-shaped craft was reported across eight states in just 12 minutes. Additionally, Peter mentions a sighting in Adair County, Iowa, where young men witnessed up to 12 lights landing on farmland, and a subsequent bizarre sighting in Cameron, Missouri, reported by the police. Art and Peter emphasize the importance of government transparency on UFO matters, advocating for a formal statement allowing officials to speak freely on the subject. Peter plans to share excerpts from credible witnesses, including a senior pilot and an FAA air traffic controller, leaving the audience to judge the reports’ authenticity. A listener’s fax raises concerns about a potential connection between UFO activity and seismic events near Mount Rainier, though Peter admits his lack of expertise in that area.

Peter Davenport recounts a spine-tingling report from the Cameron, Missouri police department, detailing an encounter with a mysterious object observed by multiple emergency responders. The object, initially perceived as debris from a crash, was found to leave no trace. A subsequent report by three teenagers described the same object streaking across the sky for hours. Peter explains that the object’s behavior—streaking and hovering—was unlike any known aircraft. He plays an excerpt from a retired airline pilot’s report of a bright object seen near Washington, D.C., which subsequently moved across multiple states, displaying impossible maneuvers for a reentering object. This phenomenon attracted numerous 911 calls and sightings, confirming the object’s unusual activity.

Art transitions to introducing hypnotherapist Elaine Stevens, author of “Whispers of the Mind,” who is known for her seminars on self-hypnosis and has been endorsed by Dr. Brian Weiss. Elaine, joining from Reno, Nevada, is asked to comment on the flurry of UFO activity discussed earlier in the program.

Elaine Stevens shares her experience with hypnotherapy, revealing that many individuals spontaneously recall past life memories or extraterrestrial contact during sessions. Initially, her practice in Houston did not encounter any UFO-related cases, which she attributes to the lack of focus on that area. Elaine’s interest in hypnosis began with using it for childbirth and later expanded after reading about past life regression. She explains that hypnosis involves altering brainwave patterns through focused concentration, leading to a relaxed state known as alpha. Art delves into the nature of hypnosis, comparing stage hypnosis with therapeutic hypnosis, and Elaine clarifies that stage hypnotists select highly suggestible individuals for demonstrations. She emphasizes that hypnosis showcases the mind’s incredible power and notes that individuals resistant to hypnosis often fear losing control.

Elaine Stevens discusses the control individuals have during hypnosis, ensuring that they can awaken if uncomfortable. Art questions the possibility of using hypnosis for mind control, referencing movies where hypnotherapists manipulate people into committing acts against their will. Elaine acknowledges that, theoretically, a skilled hypnotherapist could implant such suggestions, especially in highly suggestible individuals, but emphasizes the ethical responsibility of practitioners. They discuss historical cases like Patty Hearst’s Stockholm syndrome, illustrating the mind’s susceptibility to manipulation.

Elaine highlights the potential misuse of hypnosis by unethical practitioners who exploit their clients’ trust. She stresses that true hypnosis requires the subject’s cooperation and cannot force someone to act against their fundamental beliefs or desires. Art challenges this by mentioning a woman who, despite facing severe health consequences, continued to smoke. Elaine shares her experience attempting to help this woman quit smoking, demonstrating the complexities of addiction and the limits of hypnosis.

Elaine Stevens responds to Art’s question about how humanity would handle the revelation of extraterrestrial beings, suggesting that people are more adaptable than commonly believed. She notes that many individuals already experience such contact without being overwhelmed. Elaine reflects on her career, facing criticism for her unconventional focus on past lives. Despite this, she remains grounded in her beliefs and emphasizes that everyone’s personal belief system is valid. She mentions Dr. Bruce Goldberg, known for his work on past and future lives, and delves into her experience guiding people through past life regressions, including their death experiences.

Elaine explains that during regressions, individuals consistently describe a peaceful transition after death, regardless of how they died. This includes a sensation of light and love, with an awareness that persists beyond physical death. She recounts a conversation with a dying friend, reassuring him that death is not an end but a transition to a loving state. Elaine describes typical post-death experiences, such as floating near the ceiling and observing one’s body from above, feeling peaceful. Art raises a challenging question about a 60 Minutes segment involving a woman with an aneurysm, setting the stage for further exploration of near-death experiences.

Elaine Stevens and Art Bell discuss the case of a woman who underwent a unique medical procedure where her body was drained of blood, resulting in her being flatlined for 40 minutes before being revived without any additional measures. Elaine expresses interest in exploring such cases through hypnosis to uncover possible near-death experiences. They ponder the implications of such medical advancements and the potential involvement of otherworldly assistance.

Elaine elaborates on using past life regression to help people with their current lives, noting that trauma or strong emotional ties at the time of death might cause souls to remain on the earthly plane, manifesting as ghosts. She shares her own experiences living in a historic house in Virginia City, Nevada, suggesting that ghosts can be guided to a higher level of consciousness. Art shifts the conversation to evidence for past lives, asking if verifiable details emerge during regressions. Elaine confirms that she has frequently verified historical details through extensive research, finding accurate information about dates, events, and cultural aspects. She emphasizes that past life regression is not just about historical accuracy but also involves deeply emotional experiences, indicating memories of other lifetimes.

Art explores the concept of reincarnation, asking about the continuity of consciousness between lifetimes. Elaine believes that each person carries special abilities and traits honed through many lives, suggesting that reincarnation allows for the retention of essential aspects of one’s being.

Elaine Stevens discusses the fascinating case of a woman whose body was drained of blood during a medical procedure, resulting in her being flatlined for 40 minutes before being revived without any revival techniques. Elaine expresses interest in using hypnosis to uncover what the woman experienced during those 40 minutes, suggesting it might reveal a near-death experience. They touch on the idea of ghosts and entities remaining on Earth due to trauma or strong emotional ties at the time of death, with Elaine noting that she believes in ghosts and that they can be guided to a higher level of consciousness.

Art shifts the conversation to future life regression, asking about potential earth changes and the future of humanity. Elaine explains that while she has not directed groups to times before 2300, she believes that consciousness can change and potentially alter the future. She shares that in future life regressions, individuals often describe a highly controlled life with advanced technology, allowing them to manipulate their environment and access vast amounts of information.

Art and Elaine discuss the implications of these advanced future lives and the possibility of humanity adapting to new technological capabilities. The conversation hints at a hopeful yet controlled future, with individuals having significant control over their environments through advanced machines.

One caller from Oklahoma asks why anyone would want to explore past lives, considering the horrific events they might have experienced. Elaine explains that understanding past lives helps people overcome fears and traumas affecting their current life, as knowledge is empowering and diminishes fear.

A caller from Honolulu asks if hypnosis can revive latent psychic abilities, such as levitation. Elaine acknowledges that hypnosis can enhance intuitive abilities but has not seen it induce levitation. Art follows up, asking whether psychic abilities are diminishing or developing over time. Elaine believes these abilities are growing and that technology often masks our intuitive potential. She emphasizes the importance of disconnecting from technology to reconnect with our spiritual selves.

A listener from the U.S. Virgin Islands asks about a magazine article on mind control, which Elaine hasn’t read. Another question from Oregon inquires if some souls are older than others. Elaine asserts that all souls on Earth have been here before, as the current vibration of the planet is too intense for new souls.

Elaine Stevens responds to a listener’s question about the nature of reincarnation and whether our lives are always linear. She admits uncertainty about whether we can return to past lives but explains that during past life regressions, people often describe meeting with master beings to discuss lessons and choose the circumstances of their next life. This suggests a voluntary process involving spiritual guidance.

Art references a biblical passage, Hebrews 9:27, which states that men die once and then face judgment, contrasting this with the concept of reincarnation. Elaine mentions the Council of Nicaea, where references to reincarnation were removed from the Bible, suggesting it was done to maintain control over people.

A caller from Austin, Texas, questions the increasing number of people on Earth and the ultimate point of reincarnation. Elaine views life as a schoolhouse, where souls return to learn and progress toward perfection. She acknowledges the complexity of tracking souls and the gaps in our historical understanding, hinting at ancient civilizations that might have existed and vanished.

Another caller from Chico, California, discusses the conflict between biological and spiritual existence, expressing confusion about integrating past life memories with present consciousness. Elaine suggests deeper exploration and directs the caller to her book, “Whispers of the Mind,” which delves into these topics.

Elaine Stevens explains how listeners can obtain her book, “Whispers of the Mind,” directly from her, providing her contact information. A caller from California expresses identification with Elaine’s experiences and mentions being told they are an old soul. The caller, who is adopted, asks about the idea of choosing one’s environment for reincarnation, which Elaine affirms, suggesting that such circumstances are chosen for the lessons they offer.

Art raises a concern about the authenticity of past life regressions, noting that some hypnotherapists tell people they were famous or powerful figures in previous lives. Elaine agrees, emphasizing that egos can be easily flattered and manipulated by such claims. She stresses the importance of authenticity in past life regression.

A caller from St. Louis references the movie “The Manchurian Candidate” and shares their experiences with past life regression, seeing themselves as an African chief. They mention a shadow reader in Bombay who confirmed this past life, illustrating the overlap between different methods of uncovering past lives.

Elaine Stevens responds to a caller who describes seeing himself as an African chief with many wives during a past life regression. Elaine and Art discuss the reliability of such memories, with Elaine asserting that true insights during hypnosis come from within the person, not external suggestions. She emphasizes the importance of authenticity and warns against fabrications that could discredit hypnotherapy.

Art transitions to questions about extraterrestrial contact in the future. Elaine confirms that by the year 2300, humans have made contact with intelligent beings from other planetary systems. She relates a story of a man who, in a past life regression, recalled being a sculptor in Atlantis, working with advanced technologies and interacting with beings from different planetary systems. This suggests a long history of such contacts.

A listener from Albuquerque asks why people don’t have conscious memories of past lives if they reincarnate to gain more experience. Elaine explains that these memories reside in the subconscious and having conscious recall of all past lives would be overwhelming. She advises exploring past lives through hypnosis or her book to gain insights.

Art explores the concept of consciousness, questioning whether we retain awareness between lives. Elaine clarifies that while we may not retain the same form of consciousness, the subconscious holds past life memories, which can be accessed for present-day benefits. She notes that delving into past lives can help individuals understand and improve their current life.

Elaine Stevens discusses the value of exploring past lives, even for those living ordinary lives, to expand one’s mind and creative abilities. A caller from Oklahoma brings up the idea of inheriting memories from the first human beings, suggesting a collective memory passed down through generations. Elaine acknowledges the potential for unlocking unwanted memories but emphasizes that the mind is designed to protect and support us.

Art mentions the possibility of reliving traumatic experiences during past life regression. Elaine reassures that while individuals might experience strong emotions, the mind protects against recreating physical pain. A caller from Alaska shares their experience of verifying a past life through regression and asks about the frequency of such occurrences. Elaine confirms that while it’s unusual, she has encountered several cases where past life details were authenticated.

Bonnie from Alaska raises a theory about accessing skills from past lives through a deep hypnotic state, hinting at the potential for tapping into abilities from previous incarnations. Elaine finds this concept intriguing and validates the idea that past life experiences can provide insights and abilities useful in the present.

Elaine Stevens addresses the possibility of speaking a language from a past life, noting that she has observed clients speaking languages they did not consciously know, such as German. This phenomenon supports the idea that past life memories can include linguistic skills.

A caller from Oklahoma asks about Elaine’s beliefs on abortion. Elaine explains that she believes a soul decides to be born into a particular family but may not fully inhabit the body until birth or shortly after. She avoids delving deeply into the controversial aspects of abortion, focusing instead on the spiritual connection between the soul and the body.