1995-09-14 – Stan Deyo – Flying Saucer Technology, Ozone Hole

Show: Coast To Coast AM

Air Date: September 14, 1995

Guest(s): Stan Deyo

Topic(s): Flying Saucer Technology, Ozone Hole

Art delves into the mysterious world of advanced propulsion systems and UFO research through a fascinating correspondence with a listener from Perth, Australia. The listener, once recruited by Edward Teller and involved in cutting-edge research, shares his disillusionment with the secrecy surrounding developments that could benefit humanity. He speaks of over 50 black projects since the mid-’50s aimed at creating circular winged aircraft and spacecraft, utilizing ionized plasmas and pulsed toroidal magnetic fields. The revelation of operating test areas under NATO and in locations as secretive as Saudi Arabia hints at the global scale of these endeavors.

Art’s exploration into the enigmatic world of hidden technology and UFOs continues with an insightful discussion with Stan Deyo, a researcher from Perth, Australia, who shares his journey from being involved in top-secret mind training programs to his groundbreaking work on advanced propulsion systems. Stan’s narrative reveals the existence of highly classified research areas, notably not at the widely speculated Area 51 but in more obscure locations like Pine Gap, Australia, and even the South Pole, emphasizing the global scope and deep secrecy enveloping these projects. He recounts his initial involvement through a special project at the Air Force Academy, leading to his recruitment by Edward Teller for research in Australia. Stan’s work on circular winged aircraft using plasma propulsion, aiming for vertical takeoff capabilities, reflects a significant leap in technology, potentially explaining many UFO sightings as human-made.

Art’s interview with Stan Deyo takes a deeper dive into the intricate details of the propulsion systems Stan was involved in developing. Stan explains the initial concept of using heated air and electric currents to create lift around a saucer-shaped craft, akin to a bumblebee’s flight, which negates the need for runways by achieving vertical takeoff. As the discussion evolves, Stan touches upon more advanced technologies that he did not develop but was made aware of, including toroidal coils that interact with electric currents and magnetic fields to negate gravity. This technology bears a resemblance to the infamous Philadelphia Experiment, suggesting a connection between the two in terms of manipulating magnetic fields for propulsion.

The conversation also uncovers the international dimension of this secrecy, revealing a global effort to suppress public knowledge about these technologies since the 1950s. The abrupt cessation of publication on propulsion research across multiple countries and institutions in 1958 highlights a coordinated effort to control information. Stan’s personal journey, from his recruitment for his unique ideas in propulsion to his involvement in top-secret projects and eventual relocation to Australia, underscores the lengths to which entities have gone to both advance and conceal these technologies.

This segment sheds light on the complexities of antigravity and advanced propulsion technologies, drawing connections to historical experiments and underscoring the vast, yet hidden, advancements made since the mid-20th century.

Stan discusses the ethical and strategic dilemmas he faced with his colleagues over the release of advanced technologies to the public. He expresses frustration at the secrecy maintained by factions vying for global control, which prevents potentially life-saving technologies from benefiting humanity. Stan reveals that his push for public disclosure led to a falling out with his colleagues and prompted him to write “The Cosmic Conspiracy” and “The Vindicator Scrolls” as a form of life insurance and to expose the truth. These books document his experiences and the knowledge he has about the covert operations and technologies he was involved with.

Stan asserts that the technologies he’s discussing, particularly those related to flying saucers and advanced propulsion, are far beyond what is publicly known. He explains that projects like Aurora, thought to be at the cutting edge, are actually outdated, using technology that was developed and surpassed decades ago. According to Stan, the real advancements in aircraft technology, which include high-voltage charges on fuel streams and wings, are controlled by unnamed groups beyond even his knowledge. He details the global scope of these projects, with research bases hidden in inaccessible locations around the world, including underground facilities in Norway, Saudi Arabia, Australia, and at the South Pole.

The conversation also touches on the dangers of working with such advanced technologies. Stan recounts attempts to recreate the technologies he learned about, resulting in harm to himself and his staff due to the powerful magnetic fields involved.

Stan Deyo warns that discovering certain secrets could lead to a sense of vulnerability or regret for having learned them, hinting at the gravity of the information he possesses. This sentiment mirrors the cautious advice offered by other figures in the field, like John Lear, who advocates for a blissful ignorance over the burden of knowing too much.

Stan also shares his involvement with government databases, specifically mentioning his access to USGS and solar data, which allows him to analyze and predict seismic and volcanic activity. His collaboration with figures like Gordon Michael Scallion, known for his predictions of major earth changes, highlights a network of individuals deeply engaged in monitoring and interpreting global environmental and geological phenomena. Stan’s discussion extends into the analysis of unusual heat patterns beneath the Earth’s crust, identified through NASA satellite data, indicating significant magma movements that could have profound implications for geological stability around the world.

Stan details the process of using satellite imagery to track and analyze temperature changes on the Earth’s surface, which have indicated significant heat build-ups in various regions, including off the California coast, the Aleutians, Japan, and particularly under Japan extending to the Chinese coast. He predicts potential earthquakes and tidal waves in these areas based on this data. The conversation also covers the extreme hurricane season in the Caribbean, which Stan believes is related to these heat anomalies. He mentions the scientific community’s speculation about magma activities and their impact on weather patterns and natural disasters.

Stan’s insights draw connections between these geothermal activities and predictions of volcanic activity in the Caribbean, aligning with warnings from other researchers like Gordon Michael Scallion. He expresses concern over the lack of public discussion and disclosure by mainstream scientists and suggests that the USGS and other organizations are aware of impending natural disasters but are restrained from sharing this information widely due to political and economic considerations. Stan hints at the dilemma faced by governments in disclosing such catastrophic predictions, suggesting that premature announcements could lead to widespread panic and economic instability.

Stan recounts his recruitment by Edward Teller’s associate, Dr. James Mansfield, which led to his work on flying saucer technology in Australia, emphasizing that these were human-made crafts, not alien. He discusses the types of crafts developed, distinguishing between aircraft that manipulate air electrically for propulsion and those that employ electromagnetic fields to interact with gravity. Stan hints at capabilities beyond atmospheric flight for the latter, suggesting they could achieve rapid transit between two points, akin to dimensional jumping or bending space, concepts that resonate with theories postulated by Einstein.

His personal journey from the Air Force Academy to private research in the computer industry and then into advanced propulsion technologies underscores the secretive nature of this work. Stan describes how his private experiments attracted the attention of government and military figures, leading to his involvement in projects that explored the cutting edge of propulsion and space travel.

Stan addresses the question of why, if such advanced technology existed since the 1950s, there was still a significant public investment in the space race and lunar missions. He explains that the space program served as a cover, allowing for the development of technologies under the guise of space exploration, with contractors unknowingly contributing to classified projects. This approach allowed for a “blank budget,” legally funneling funds into black budget projects concerning advanced aircraft, including those often reported as UFOs by the public.

He speculates on the future disclosure of these technologies, suggesting it may be inevitable but warns of potential misinformation. Stan draws connections to ancient texts and prophecies, hinting at a historical presence of advanced beings or technologies, which aligns with some interpretations of biblical and Sumerian records. He also discusses Bob Lazar’s claims about back-engineering alien spacecraft, considering the possibility that some UFO sightings might indeed be of non-human origin, despite the advanced human-made craft that exists.

Stan shares a personal sighting of a triangular craft, corroborating the existence of such technology. He questions the current relevance of Area 51 as the hub of UFO and advanced technology research, suggesting that truly secret projects are well concealed from the public eye. Stan hints at imminent global changes or events, possibly related to the disturbing geological and environmental patterns he’s observed, without specifying what these might entail.

Stan predicts significant increases in earthquake and volcanic activity worldwide, with specific regions like the West Coast of the United States, the New Madrid fault line, Florida, Europe, Northwest Africa, Spain, the Mediterranean, and especially Japan facing major risks. He bases these predictions on patterns observed in satellite imagery, showing heat buildups that suggest impending geological events. His analysis suggests that within months, Japan could experience remarkable earthquake activity.

Stan clarifies that not all these changes are man-made; they involve larger planetary dynamics, including unusual solar activity observed over the last five years. He discusses a study suggesting new frequencies from the sun are being absorbed by phytoplankton, causing abnormal ocean heating, which in turn affects the Earth’s crust, leading to increased seismic stress. This complex interplay between solar activity, oceanic changes, and geological stress points towards a period of significant natural disasters.

He also confirms that the advanced crafts he has discussed have been utilized in space, indicating a level of technological advancement far beyond public knowledge. As the conversation opens to audience questions, Stan addresses inquiries about the crafts’ propulsion mechanisms, linking them to electromagnetic principles and the potential for overcoming gravity.

Stan delves into the reasons behind the suppression of knowledge and what is truly happening behind the scenes in the world, drawing connections between his scientific research and prophecies from Christian and Jewish scholars. He expresses alarm over the alignment of his scientific findings with ancient prophecies, predicting a series of catastrophic events for our planet within the next decade. These include increased earthquake activity, a comet impact affecting marine life and water quality, shifts in the Earth’s axis and magnetic poles, and significant changes in solar activity.

Stan’s concern extends beyond the scientific data to the implications of these predicted events on human understanding and preparedness. He emphasizes the need for awareness, not from a standpoint of prophecy but from an objective interpretation of scientific evidence. His move to write books on the subject stems from a desire to provide a comprehensive understanding of these potential global changes.

Regarding Australia’s fate in the face of these changes, Stan predicts significant water damage along the west coast, potential fracturing in the country’s center, and tsunami damage in the northeast, closer to the Indonesian islands and New Zealand. His predictions are based on analysis of USGS earthquake data and other geological indicators that suggest a major shift in the Earth’s magma.

Stan clarifies his resignation from the Air Force Academy due to disagreements and unethical practices, such as unwanted hypnosis experiments on cadets. This event marked the beginning of his independent research journey, leading to his involvement in classified projects in Australia, chosen for its isolation and conducive environment for secretive research.

He addresses inquiries about the Masonic Order and its connection to his work, emphasizing his focus on the “angelic conflict” and biblical prophecies rather than Masonic teachings. Stan’s research intersects scientific evidence with prophecies predicting significant global changes, including massive earthquakes and shifts in the Earth’s magnetic poles. He expresses concern that these events align with ancient warnings about a time of upheaval.

The conversation also touches on the idea that Saddam Hussein idolized Hitler and sought esoteric knowledge, implying a connection between historical figures’ interest in occult technologies and current geopolitical tensions.

Listeners raise questions about the demonic aspect of government involvement in secretive projects, hinting at a complex interplay between spiritual beliefs and extraterrestrial engagement. Stan suggests that current events might fulfill biblical prophecies of a new Babylon, urging caution and awareness among those who might be inadvertently complicit in these unfolding scenarios.

Stan discusses the possibility that the US government may be synonymous with the “New Babylon” mentioned in prophecies, suggesting a complex relationship between government actions and apocalyptic predictions. Despite the risks associated with disclosing such information, Stan explains that he has taken steps to protect himself and has been transparent about his findings and the individuals involved, which has so far kept him safe from retaliation.

Listeners express concerns about the implications of Stan’s revelations, particularly regarding the safety of certain geographical areas like the New Madrid fault line and the potential for significant changes to the Mississippi River’s course. Stan advises caution but stops short of suggesting mass relocation, emphasizing instead the importance of spiritual preparedness and the consideration of life beyond our current existence. He hints at upcoming challenges beyond natural disasters, including changes to monetary systems and other manmade catastrophes that align with biblical prophecy.

Stan’s conversation underscores the intersection of scientific observation, spiritual belief, and conspiracy theory, painting a picture of a world on the brink of significant transformation. He encourages a focus on family and spiritual exploration, suggesting that understanding the possibility of an afterlife is crucial in facing the uncertain future.

The content shifts to a discussion on the ozone layer’s depletion, featuring a conversation with Pat, a professional in the air conditioning business with expertise in the effects of CFC (chlorofluorocarbon) venting. Pat emphasizes the seriousness of the ozone layer issue, stating unequivocally that the depletion is a real problem, backed by scientific evidence suggesting a significant increase in the hole’s size over Antarctica, now comparable to the size of Europe. This expansion, alongside a reported 10% depletion above North America since the mid-1950s, underscores the escalating concern surrounding global environmental health.

Pat outlines the mechanism by which CFCs contribute to ozone depletion. When CFCs reach the upper atmosphere, ultraviolet rays break down their carbon atoms, which then strip oxygen atoms from ozone (O3), converting it into regular oxygen (O2) and diminishing the ozone layer’s capacity to shield the Earth from harmful solar radiation. This process, where a single carbon atom can destroy millions of ozone atoms, highlights the long-lasting and accumulative impact of CFC emissions.

Despite changes in industry practices and stricter regulations, particularly in developed nations like the United States, Pat points out the ongoing challenge posed by unregulated emissions from third-world countries. The global nature of the issue means that efforts to mitigate ozone depletion must contend with industrialization and demand for CFC-containing products in these regions.

The conversation pivots to the implications of a thinning ozone layer, including increased skin cancer rates, global warming, and a “long slow deterioration” of planetary health. This dialogue presents a stark reminder of the environmental challenges facing humanity, emphasizing the need for global cooperation and stringent environmental stewardship to address the pressing issue of ozone depletion.

Pat estimates that at least 20% of businesses in the United States might still be illegally venting Freon due to lax enforcement of federal laws. He explains the process of legally disposing of Freon involves capturing it in drums for reclamation and recycling, but this process is time-consuming and not incentivized, leading to continued illegal venting.

Pat debunks the notion that the ozone layer issue is an ideological fabrication, affirming the scientific consensus on the real and present danger of ozone depletion. He highlights the longevity of carbon atoms in the atmosphere, which can continue to damage the ozone layer for an indefinite period, contrasting with the temporary impact of volcanic eruptions, which many skeptics cite as a more significant contributor to ozone depletion.

Listeners call in with a mix of support and skepticism. Some challenge the validity of concerns about CFCs and the ozone layer, suggesting other natural phenomena like volcanic activity have a more substantial impact. Pat responds by emphasizing the enduring effect of CFC-related carbon atoms on the ozone layer compared to the transient nature of volcanic fallout.

The discussion shifts to a caller from Houston inquiring whether anything can be done to reverse the depletion of the ozone layer. Pat, the guest from the air conditioning industry, indicates that if CFC emissions ceased immediately, the ozone layer might begin to recover after a decade or so. However, he expresses skepticism about global unity in ceasing CFC emissions, especially from second and third-world countries, which continue to grow and industrialize.

Pat clarifies the relationship between ozone depletion and global warming, suggesting a direct correlation where one exacerbates the other. A caller from Hawaii highlights the natural emissions from volcanoes, arguing that these significantly outweigh human contributions to ozone depletion. Pat counters this by explaining that volcanic emissions generally remain in the lower atmosphere and do not reach the ozone layer, whereas CFCs, due to their stability, eventually ascend and cause damage to the ozone layer from the outside in.

The discussion transitions away from the ozone layer to cover a range of topics, reflecting the diverse interests of the talk show. Art expresses his belief in the reality of ozone layer depletion, acknowledging scientific consensus on the issue but remaining agnostic about the specific causes, whether CFCs or volcanic activity. This acknowledgment underscores the complexity of environmental issues and the challenge of balancing industrial activity with environmental preservation.

The conversation then shifts dramatically to a preview of remarkable photographs purportedly showing crash debris from Roswell, including items that suggest non-human origins. This teaser aims to bolster the credibility of UFO phenomena and Roswell’s significance in that context.

The conversation then diverges to various topics, including a speculative strategy in the O.J. Simpson trial involving the Fifth Amendment, updates on the Oklahoma City bombing case, and the personal decisions of individuals moving between states for employment reasons.

Amidst these discussions, Art reflects on the earlier conversations with Stan from Australia and Pat regarding global environmental changes. He expresses a lingering sense of unease, hinting at a “quickening” or acceleration of global events and changes, including volcanic activity, seismic movements, and intensifying hurricane seasons. This feeling is shared by callers who speculate about significant, impending changes, suggesting a collective anticipation or apprehension about the future.

One caller introduces a hopeful scenario, questioning the impact of a hypothetical new substance that could cure major diseases, highlighting a desire for positive developments amid widespread concerns about global challenges.

Art shifts the conversation to address various criticisms and curiosities from his audience, defending his choice of topics and guests. He acknowledges the controversy surrounding the depletion of the ozone layer, admitting his belief in its occurrence based on scientific consensus, though he remains open to differing causes, such as CFCs or volcanic activity. This stance highlights Art’s commitment to exploring diverse viewpoints and complex issues, even when faced with uncertainty or skepticism.

The discussion then veers into listener feedback, with some callers challenging the relevance and seriousness of the show’s content, comparing discussions on global environmental issues and speculative topics to more conventional subjects like baseball achievements. Art defends his programming choices, emphasizing the importance of challenging and engaging his audience with a variety of topics that might not be addressed in mainstream media. He underscores the value of open dialogue, curiosity, and the willingness to entertain unconventional ideas, even if they provoke criticism or disbelief.

The conversation then shifts to NATO’s involvement in Bosnia, with the caller viewing international cooperation as a positive step forward from the isolationist policies of the past. Art, however, expresses skepticism about sending American troops to enforce peace in Bosnia, fearing it could lead to long-term entanglement without resolving underlying issues.

One caller expresses skepticism about the consensus on global warming and challenges the notion that it poses a significant threat, suggesting that concerns about climate change have fluctuated between global cooling and warming over the years. This conversation highlights the divide between public perception and scientific consensus on environmental issues.

Another caller, claiming to have spoken with someone involved in measuring ozone depletion in the Arctic, dismisses the concern as “bunk,” reflecting a broader skepticism towards environmental science within some segments of the public. Art acknowledges these differing viewpoints, emphasizing his own uncertainty and the need for continued dialogue and investigation into these critical issues.

The program shifts to listener feedback, with Art receiving appreciation for his unique approach to talk radio, which includes a willingness to explore a wide range of topics. This part of the conversation underscores the show’s impact on its audience, fostering a community of listeners who value the exploration of unconventional and mainstream ideas alike.

Art also mentions his book and a special offer for autographed copies, highlighting the personal connection he has established with his audience through his work and the broader cultural impact of his radio program.

Art engages with a caller discussing the alien autopsy and how his show intersects with other media platforms, emphasizing the broad reach and impact of his programming on discussions about extraterrestrial life and conspiracy theories. The conversation highlights the caller’s appreciation for Art’s unique approach to talk radio, which encourages a free exchange of ideas and provides a platform for topics not typically covered by mainstream media.

Art’s response underscores his commitment to offering diverse content that provokes thought and challenges conventional perspectives. He expresses his intent to remain distinct from other talk radio formats that focus narrowly on political diatribes, emphasizing the value of spontaneity and the broad spectrum of topics his show covers, from scientific debates to speculative theories about extraterrestrial life.

The discussion transitions to a listener’s perspective on NATO’s actions in Bosnia, reflecting on the complexities of military intervention and the potential consequences of deploying American troops to enforce peace in ethnically divided regions. This conversation highlights concerns about the long-term implications of such interventions, including the risk of creating lasting enmities and the possibility of terrorism.

The discussion about Bosnia continues with Art expressing skepticism about the deployment of 18,000 American troops to enforce peace, fearing it will lead to a quagmire and questioning the wisdom of such involvement. This reflects Art’s willingness to delve into complex geopolitical issues and consider the broader implications of military actions.

A caller shifts the conversation to a lighter note, discussing Cal Ripken’s baseball achievements and the importance of recognizing everyday contributions from individuals in various roles. This juxtaposition of topics showcases the wide-ranging interests of Art’s audience and his ability to engage with both serious and more casual subjects.

The alien autopsy topic resurfaces with a caller comparing the appearance of the alien brain to a “skinned chicken” and engaging in a humorous exchange with Art about interpretations of the footage. This segment highlights Art’s openness to exploring speculative and controversial topics, fostering a space where unconventional theories and observations can be shared freely.

The conversation also touches on the commercial aspects of radio broadcasting, with a caller questioning how the addition of more affiliates impacts the number of commercials during the show. Art explains the balancing act of managing commercial content while trying to maximize listener engagement, reflecting on the challenges of maintaining the quality of the program as it grows.

One caller argues that America, due to its ethnic diversity, should act as the world’s police, especially in regions like the former Yugoslavia, to prevent ethnic conflicts from spreading. Art challenges this view by questioning the ethics of enforcing ethnic separation elsewhere in the world, highlighting the contradiction with America’s ideals of diversity and inclusion.

Another caller inquires about a new affiliate station in Alabama, showcasing the expanding reach of Art’s program and the logistical challenges of managing such information amidst the chaos of a live radio show environment. This interaction underscores the logistical aspects of broadcasting and the personal connection Art maintains with his audience, even as the show grows.

A different caller responds to a previous comment about the rarity of massive death tolls from natural disasters, providing historical examples to argue that such events have indeed caused significant loss of life in the past. This discussion brings a historical perspective to contemporary debates on environmental and natural disaster preparedness, emphasizing the importance of learning from history.

The show concludes on a warm note, with a caller getting the chance to say “good night America,” symbolizing the sense of community and shared experience that Art’s program fosters among listeners.