The show begins with a warm greeting to listeners across various time zones, from Hawaii to the Caribbean and beyond. Art announces the addition of a new station in Bakersfield to their network. He then moves on to discuss Graham Hancock’s American tour, providing details of Hancock’s itinerary, including an upcoming appearance in Santa Monica. The focus shifts to a conversation about Russia with Luba Brezhnev, who will offer insights into Russian elections and political dynamics. Art, who plans to visit Russia, expresses his interest in this topic.
The show then pivots to the subject of the Clintons, specifically the unfolding Whitewater scandal. Art talks about Bruce Lindsey, a close associate of President Clinton, being named an unindicted coconspirator in a case involving campaign loans. This development is part of a larger controversy involving the Clintons, raising questions about political integrity and legal challenges they are facing.
Art introduces Roger Morris, an author and former member of the National Security Council, who has written a new book about the Clintons titled “Partners in Power.” The book, as described by the New York Post, portrays the Clintons as involved in various dishonest and illicit activities.
Art Bell continues his discussion with Roger Morris, author of “Partners in Power,” a book about Bill and Hillary Clinton. Morris describes his book as a dual biography, tracing the Clintons’ lives from their childhoods to their ascent to the presidency in 1993. He emphasizes that the book delves into the Clintons’ personal and political lives, portraying them as deeply flawed in terms of character and ethics.
Morris discusses Bill Clinton’s upbringing in Arkansas, particularly in Hot Springs, a town known for its connections to organized crime and political corruption. He reveals that Clinton’s family and friends were linked to these criminal elements, which played a significant role in Clinton’s early political career. Morris draws parallels between the corruption in Hot Springs and Las Vegas, suggesting similarities in the criminal activities of both places.
The conversation shifts to the current political challenges faced by the Clintons, with Morris suggesting that the couple’s approach to handling crises involves evasion and shifting blame to others. He compares the unfolding Whitewater scandal to the Watergate scandal, predicting that it will lead to a constitutional crisis similar to what happened with Richard Nixon. Morris believes that despite the scandals, Clinton is likely to be re-elected, but his second term could be marred by legal troubles.
Art and Morris discuss the role of the special prosecutor, Kenneth Starr, in the Whitewater investigation, with Morris commending Starr’s methodical approach. He dismisses accusations of political bias against Starr and anticipates that the investigation will intensify after Clinton’s potential re-election.
Morris critiques the Clintons for attacking individuals and avoiding substantive issues, exemplifying this behavior with the Whitewater scandal and the appointment of Branscombe as a state highway commissioner in Arkansas. He points out Bruce Lindsey’s key role in Clinton’s campaigns and his closeness to the president, making his naming as an unindicted coconspirator significant.
Morris discusses the Clintons’ rise in Arkansas politics, arguing that they were no different from other corrupt politicians in the state. He laments the missed opportunity for Bill Clinton to challenge the established corrupt system in Arkansas, instead of choosing to align with it. This decision, according to Morris, led to the introduction of these corrupt elements into the White House.
The discussion then turns to the “Clinton Chronicles” videotape, which Morris partially agrees with, acknowledging its depiction of cronyism in Arkansas politics during Clinton’s governorship. He describes a closed system of favoritism and special interests that benefited Clinton supporters and associates, including Hillary Clinton’s law firm.
Art Bell raises the possibility of legal troubles landing on Hillary Clinton’s doorstep and questions how President Clinton would react. Morris suggests that Clinton would likely stand by his wife and fight through the scandal, as they have historically done. He comments on Clinton’s resilience and ability to survive scandals, likening him to a “hard dog to get off the porch.”
Morris suggests that both Bill and Hillary Clinton may have been involved in legal wrongdoing, citing specific instances such as fraudulently obtained federal money and misuse of funds from a savings and loan. He emphasizes the gravity of these charges, labeling them as some of the most serious ever made against a sitting president.
Morris discusses the Clintons’ tactics in covering their tracks, mentioning missing and shredded documents that have made it difficult to follow the paper trail. He acknowledges the effectiveness of the special prosecutor in reconstructing the evidence, indicating a challenging situation for the Clintons’ defense.
Regarding a potential strategy for the Clintons, Morris speculates on whether resigning and seeking a pardon from the vice president might be an option, drawing a parallel to Richard Nixon’s resignation. However, he doubts the Clintons are ready to take such a step, expecting them to continue fighting the allegations.
The conversation shifts to the Paula Jones case, with Morris expressing surprise at the possibility of a settlement that might include Clinton retracting statements and paying legal fees. He views this as an admission of the validity of Jones’ charges. Morris also brings up other women who have come forward with claims of sexual encounters with Bill Clinton, noting the challenges they face in pursuing legal action against a sitting president.
Art Bell and Morris conclude this segment by discussing the impact of the Clintons’ appearance on “60 Minutes,” which Morris believes was pivotal in Clinton’s election. He details the origins of this appearance in his book, suggesting it was a campaign-saving move. Morris discusses how the Clintons observed Gary Hart’s sex scandal and strategized for their own potential scandals, including Bill Clinton’s affair with Gennifer Flowers. He characterizes their appearance on “60 Minutes” as a calculated move that contributed significantly to Clinton’s election victory.
Morris then shifts to discussing the Clintons’ relationship, describing it as complex, combining both genuine affection and political expediency. He highlights Hillary Clinton’s indispensable role in Bill’s political career and vice versa, despite their marriage being fraught with love-hate dynamics. Morris criticizes Hillary’s role in the health care plan, pointing out her history of failures in Arkansas and her often embarrassing political missteps, while also acknowledging her as a disciplining and stabilizing force for Bill.
On the possibility of legal repercussions for the Clintons, Morris believes there’s no turning back. He anticipates serious legal charges for Hillary related to her work as a lawyer and her actions as the First Lady. For Bill, Morris foresees issues extending beyond Whitewater, including allegations of vote fraud and bribery.
The conversation then turns to Bill Clinton’s troubled early life. Morris describes Clinton’s abusive childhood, witnessing violence against his mother and experiencing physical abuse himself. He suggests that Clinton’s ability to lie without guilt may stem from his upbringing in a dysfunctional family.
Despite his declining popularity, Morris predicts Clinton might win the upcoming election, primarily due to a lack of enthusiasm for Bob Dole, the Republican candidate.
Morris expresses disappointment with both major political parties, distancing himself from the label of a liberal and identifying as an independent. He believes that the Democratic Party has betrayed its constituents and principles, and corruption is rampant in both parties. Art Bell shares a similar sentiment, feeling driven to independent status by the current political landscape.
They discuss the American public’s general disengagement from politics, attributing it to distrust in government and the repugnant nature of the current political environment. Morris compares the political system to a dysfunctional family, emphasizing the need for engagement and acknowledgment of issues to initiate healing.
The conversation then turns to the economy, with Morris acknowledging Clinton’s luck with the current economic state. However, he warns of ominous trends and the disconnect Americans have between their personal finances and the political process in Washington. Morris criticizes the influence of special interests in politics, asserting that the United States has become more of an oligarchy than a democracy.
Morris expresses skepticism about any significant change if Bob Dole were elected, viewing him as emblematic of the old political system. He doubts Dole’s ability to make extraordinary changes if elected.
Morris discusses the potential for President Clinton to dismiss the special prosecutor, Kenneth Starr, but considers such a move disastrous, likening it to Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre. He believes any attempt to interfere with Starr would likely lead to impeachment.
The conversation shifts to the Republican Party’s challenges, with Morris noting its division and lack of unity, even with figures like Pat Buchanan. He believes these internal issues diminish the Republican Party’s chances against Clinton.
Art Bell then asks about Clinton’s early decision to focus on the issue of gays in the military. Morris sees this as part of a broader pattern of ineptitude and disarray in Clinton’s administration, a continuation of his governorship in Arkansas. He criticizes Clinton’s handling of various issues, including the appointment process and his strained relationship with the homosexual community.
Despite these challenges, Morris acknowledges Clinton’s resilience, referring to him as a “Teflon President” who seems to survive various political setbacks. However, he anticipates a close election and suggests that a reckoning for Clinton may be on the horizon.
One caller raises doubts about Clinton’s actions during the Vietnam War, suspecting him of protesting in the Soviet Union. Morris clarifies that while there’s no hard evidence of Clinton’s involvement in antiwar demonstrations in Moscow, he was active in protests in London and elsewhere. Morris also mentions Clinton’s alleged contacts with the CIA, acting as an informant against fellow students in the antiwar movement, illustrating Clinton’s complex political maneuvers.
Another caller predicts a significant loss for the Democratic Party and questions Clinton’s ability to survive until the convention. Morris acknowledges Clinton’s precarious situation but still believes he will make it through the election, citing Clinton’s resilience and ongoing campaign efforts.
A third caller compares Clinton’s troubles with past presidents, questioning whether his situation is genuinely more serious. Morris responds by stating that the issues surrounding Clinton are not merely old scandals from Arkansas but involve ongoing cover-ups and obstructions by the White House, making them more severe than typical electioneering tactics.
A caller raises concerns about the misuse of FBI files by the Clinton administration, which Morris describes as one of the more serious scandals due to its implications for privacy and the abuse of law enforcement for political purposes. He recounts similar abuses of power by the Clintons in Arkansas, using the state police to smear opponents and compile dossiers.
Art Bell notes that warnings about the Clintons from Arkansas residents were often ignored or underreported by the media, leading to a lack of awareness about their improprieties. Morris criticizes the Arkansas media for failing to adequately expose these issues, which might have informed voters’ choices in the 1992 election.
Regarding the possibility of impeachment, Morris believes Clinton would resign if he realized he lacked sufficient support in Congress, but he anticipates a long battle before reaching that point. Clinton is expected to defend himself vigorously against any charges, relying on public backlash against the Republican Congress and fears about losing entitlements.
Discussing the special prosecutor, Kenneth Starr, Morris commends his methodical approach and the gradual build-up of prosecutions and convictions in Arkansas. This strategy aims to gather evidence against the president and the first lady by negotiating plea deals with convicted individuals.
A caller questions Clinton’s objectives if re-elected, particularly given the sluggish performance of the Republican ‘Contract with America.’ Morris doubts that the Democrats will regain control of both houses of Congress and doesn’t foresee Clinton pursuing a significant policy agenda in a second term. Instead, he anticipates more of the same political maneuvering and defense against scandals.
A caller speculates on the future ambitions of both President Clinton and First Lady Hillary Clinton. Roger Morris suggests that if they survive the current scandals and a second term, Hillary Clinton might harbor presidential ambitions herself, a prospect that he implies would be quite controversial.
The conversation then shifts to a discussion about the President’s role in the world’s oil market and his foreign policy. Morris criticizes Clinton for not having a well-defined foreign policy and being more fortunate than strategic in handling international economic issues. He asserts that Clinton’s lack of interest in foreign policy and preoccupation with domestic scandals have prevented him from becoming a statesman.
A caller from Montana brings up a personal issue of corruption within an organization, paralleling it to the larger theme of corruption in politics. However, the discussion does not delve deeply into this comparison.
Art Bell draws an analogy between Bill Clinton and the science fiction concept of the “monster from the id,” suggesting that Clinton represents the collective desires and shortcomings of the American public. Morris agrees, citing an Arkansas editor’s quote that people saw in the Clintons what they wanted to believe.
A caller from Santa Barbara remarks on the impact of Clinton’s actions on church burnings and how they might affect his re-election chances, highlighting the President’s need to address significant national issues.
Roger Morris comments on Clinton’s popularity among African Americans, noting his gestures towards the community but also pointing out his lack of substantial impact on improving their conditions, particularly in the Mississippi Delta. Morris critiques Clinton’s approach to civil rights and economic opportunities for black Americans, calling it more of political posturing than effective action.
Regarding Clinton’s domestic policy, Morris criticizes his welfare reform proposals, both in Arkansas and nationally, as ineffective and disastrous. He points out that these proposals failed to provide jobs or daycare for single parents, thus not truly helping people gain independence.
The conversation also touches on rumors about the Clintons’ personal relationship, with Morris confirming reports of heated arguments and profanity in the Governor’s Mansion in Arkansas. He asserts that these stories align with the Clintons’ stormy and tumultuous relationship.
Callers bring up various international issues during Clinton’s presidency, such as the situation in Russia, China, North Korea, Bosnia, and Somalia. Morris acknowledges that these have been conventional foreign policy matters and Clinton has not faced abysmal failures in these areas. However, he questions whether Clinton’s handling of these issues has been due to luck or effective policy-making. Morris also highlights ongoing global economic problems, suggesting that the American economy’s condition is precarious despite positive trends.
The segment concludes with a discussion on the situation in Russia, with Morris commenting on the potential implications of Boris Yeltsin’s re-election and the divided opinion in Russia about a return to communism. He expresses concern about Russia’s nuclear arsenal and the challenges it could pose for American foreign policy.
Roger Morris expresses doubt about Clinton’s ability to effectively manage a crisis, suggesting that his decision-making might be overly influenced by political considerations rather than the long-term interests of the country. He also criticizes the administration’s lack of a strong foreign policy team, citing the absence of commanding figures in national security affairs.
The conversation touches on Clinton’s popularity among African Americans, with Morris noting Clinton’s gestures towards the community but failing to make substantial improvements in their living conditions. He characterizes much of Clinton’s actions as political posturing.
A caller brings up the topic of Clinton’s foreign policy, suggesting that its true impact might not be apparent immediately but could lead to future problems. Another caller contrasts Clinton’s presidency with Bob Dole’s potential presidency, arguing that while Dole may lack charisma, he is seen as an honorable man without a history of criminal allegations like Clinton.
Morris responds by stating he would not vote for Clinton due to the various scandals associated with his administration. He also expresses skepticism about voting for Dole, citing his long tenure in the Senate and alleged ties to special interests. Morris emphasizes the need for systemic reform in American politics and expresses admiration for Congressman Jim Leach, whom he views as an example of integrity in politics.
Morris expresses skepticism about Clinton’s ability to effectively manage crises, citing his lack of experience in handling significant challenges during his tenure as Governor of Arkansas and his tendency to make politically motivated decisions.
The discussion then shifts to Clinton’s relationship with the African American community. Morris criticizes Clinton for making gestures towards the community without bringing substantial improvements, especially in areas like the Mississippi Delta.
A caller questions Clinton’s foreign policy successes, suggesting that Clinton is more of a politician telling people what they want to hear rather than implementing effective policies. Morris concurs, adding that Clinton’s policies might lead to future quagmires.
Another caller brings up allegations of drug use and involvement with drug dealers in the Clinton family, particularly concerning Bill Clinton’s brother, Roger Clinton. Morris confirms these allegations and criticizes the Clinton administration for its poor record in combating drug abuse.
The discussion also touches on Clinton’s political limitations due to his past drug use, preventing him from taking a strong stance on drug legalization or decriminalization.
Despite the controversies, Morris’s book “Partners in Power: The Clintons and Their America” has become a bestseller. He encourages listeners to find the book in bookstores or online for a thorough documentation of the topics discussed. He emphasizes the seriousness of his research, which includes 30 pages of single-spaced footnotes.
Morris responds to a question about former Senator Sam Nunn, describing him as a product of the old political order and not a paragon of integrity, despite his intelligence and discipline.
Addressing the difficulty he faced in getting mainstream media attention for his book, Morris suggests that his book might have been too controversial for major outlets like “60 Minutes,” “Primetime Live,” “Larry King,” and others. Despite this, he notes that the book has climbed the bestseller list, thanks in part to word-of-mouth popularity and appearances on shows like Art Bell’s.
The discussion then shifts to the personal risks Morris faced while writing the book. He shares that he received warnings about potential danger but remains committed to his belief in free speech and truth-telling in America.
A caller brings up allegations of drug use within the Clinton family, specifically referencing a surveillance tape involving Roger Clinton, Bill Clinton’s brother. Morris confirms the existence of the tape and discusses its contents, which include references to Bill Clinton’s alleged drug use. He criticizes the Clinton administration for its poor record in combating drug abuse and its hypocrisy regarding drug policies.
Art Bell brings up a shocking news story from Saskatchewan about a gruesome crime committed by a teenager influenced by a horror film. This leads to a discussion about the impact of media on behavior and the phenomenon of the “quickening,” a term used by Bell to describe the accelerating pace of societal change and chaos.
Bell also addresses a listener’s question about levitation, although the conversation doesn’t delve deeply into this topic. Instead, the discussion shifts to political jokes and commentary about the state of American politics. A caller humorously describes new types of bonds named after political figures like Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton, reflecting the public’s perception of these politicians.
The conversation then turns to the failures and challenges faced by political leaders like Gingrich and Bob Dole, with Bell expressing his disillusionment with the current political landscape. He talks about the lack of engagement and trust in politicians, indicating a need for leaders who can inspire and bring about positive change.
A caller from Little Rock, Arkansas, discusses the local perception of Bill Clinton and the economic difficulties faced by the state. The caller criticizes the media for not adequately reporting on Clinton’s governorship and its impact on Arkansas, aligning with Morris’s earlier comments about media shortcomings.
The segment concludes with a discussion about Clinton’s potential to overcome the various scandals and allegations surrounding him. Bell speculates that if Clinton were free of these scandals and the economy continued to perform well, he would likely enjoy greater public support.
A caller from Youngstown, Ohio, shares his experience attempting remote viewing during a previous show segment. He inquires about the outcome of the exercise, which was focused on visualizing dolphins. This leads to a discussion about the legalities and ethics of recording conversations without consent, referencing the infamous tapes involving Gennifer Flowers and Bill Clinton.
The conversation takes a more unconventional turn when a caller claiming to be a psychic telepathically communicates with the chupacabra, a mythical creature. The caller’s assertions about communicating with this creature and her claims of psychic abilities lead to a light-hearted and skeptical response from Bell.
Bell also addresses a question about how one becomes a professional psychic, discussing the nature of psychic gifts and the lack of formal certification in this field. This part of the show highlights Bell’s openness to exploring a wide array of subjects, from the paranormal to the political, with a mix of seriousness and humor.
The discussion concludes with a caller from Everett, Washington, mistakenly dialing into the international line and a brief mention of the movie “The Arrival.”
Bell reads a fax from a listener in Arizona describing historical accounts of levitation, mentioning figures like St. Joseph of Cupertino and David Holm. This leads to a broader discussion about the possibility and nature of levitation, with Bell expressing skepticism but curiosity about the topic.
One caller shares a personal experience of purportedly leaving her body and levitating during a meditation session inside the Queen’s Chamber of the Great Pyramid in Egypt. She describes the sensation as feeling completely free and spiritually liberated. Bell listens with interest, questioning the caller about the specifics of her experience.
There’s also a lighthearted discussion about movies, with Bell and callers sharing opinions on films like “Strange Days,” “The Arrival,” and the impact of spoilers on the enjoyment of movies.
A caller brings up a hypothetical scenario from the Bible regarding Armageddon and the unification of the world’s armies to face a common alien threat, reminiscent of Ronald Reagan’s famous speculation about a unifying extraterrestrial threat.
Another caller, speaking on behalf of her sister, asks a series of imaginative questions related to the creation of a comic book. These include the effects of a violet sky on photosynthesis, the potential for life under different atmospheric conditions, the impact of multiple moons on a planet, and the implications of a longer day and year on a fictional world.
Art Bell engages with a caller named Jerry from Houston, who shares his hypothesis about UFO sightings and alien encounters. Jerry suggests these phenomena could be future historians traveling back in time to observe historical events. Bell mentions a movie with a similar premise, where time tourists visit catastrophic events in history for entertainment.
Another caller from Missouri brings up the concept of Armageddon and speculates about a scenario where all the world’s armies unite against a common alien threat. This idea echoes former President Ronald Reagan’s speculation about a unifying extraterrestrial threat to humanity.
The conversation shifts to a discussion about marijuana legalization and the war on drugs. A caller from Tucson questions Bell’s stance on cannabis and its decriminalization. Bell expresses his opinion that marijuana should be separated from other drugs in the legal system, but he doesn’t feel the need to be militantly active in advocating for this change.
A caller from Bradenton, Florida, discusses his reaction to a previous show featuring Major Ed Dames, known for his remote viewing predictions. The caller expresses initial fear, then anger, about Dames’ apocalyptic predictions and the notion that taxpayers funded research into remote viewing.
Art Bell continues to field a wide range of calls from listeners, discussing everything from time travel theories to the practicalities of package delivery.
- A caller from Houston proposes a hypothesis that UFO sightings and alien encounters might actually be time travelers from the future coming back to observe historical events. Bell references a movie with a similar theme where people travel back in time to witness catastrophic events.
- The discussion then shifts to the topic of Armageddon and hypothetical scenarios involving global unification against a common threat, echoing thoughts previously expressed by Ronald Reagan.
- A caller from Florida engages in a discussion about Major Ed Dames and his remote viewing predictions, leading to a conversation about the practicality and ethics of preparing for potential global catastrophes.
- Another caller humorously apologizes for a previous joke about Bell’s car, leading to a discussion about gas efficiency and personal preferences.
- The subject of native American prophecies is briefly touched upon, linking them to the predictions made by Gordon Michael Scallion and Ed Dames.
- Bell discusses the current political climate, drawing parallels between the ongoing scandals in the Clinton administration and the Watergate scandal, highlighting the public’s interest in political controversies.
- An UPS driver from Minnesota calls in to discuss the practical challenges of package delivery, especially in extreme weather conditions, and expresses a wish for more people to be aware of Art Bell’s show during the daytime.
- The conversation takes a political turn with a caller from California expressing strong opinions about the Clinton administration and the upcoming election. The caller predicts Clinton’s loss in the upcoming election due to various scandals and the potential impact of these issues on voter sentiment in California.
- Another caller humorously claims to have sent marijuana through the mail to Bell, leading to a discussion about the legality and ethics of such actions. Bell expresses skepticism about the claim.
- A caller from Bradenton, Florida, engages in a conversation about the potential impact of a longer workday and year on a hypothetical planet, reflecting the show’s openness to imaginative and speculative topics.
- The discussion also includes a caller inquiring about the work of UFO researcher Stanton Friedman and whether Bell had received a package related to otherworldly craft experiences. Bell playfully responds before moving on to the next caller.
- Another caller discusses the fanaticism and partisanship in politics, leading to a broader conversation about the influence of lobby groups and corporate America on political outcomes.
- A caller from Tennessee inquires about the process of smoking marijuana and expresses curiosity about Major Ed Dames’ theories, particularly related to the United Nations’ treaty on weather modification from 1977. The caller suggests a connection between this treaty and changes in the environment, including the potential impact on the jet stream.
- The conversation shifts to the topic of electromagnetic radiation and its potential effects on people. Bell humorously suggests that constant exposure to radiation, including the radio waves carrying his voice, might be affecting his listeners.
- A caller from California offers his analysis of the presidential election, describing it as “helpless, hopeless, inevitable.” He draws a distinction between voting for Bob Dole as a vote for the Republican Party and voting for Bill Clinton as a vote for the individual, not necessarily the Democratic Party. The caller and Bell discuss the lack of enthusiasm in the election and the feeling that, given the current choices, voting for Dole seems like the lesser of two evils.
- Another caller, named Blaise from Portland, Oregon, shares the origin of her unique name and engages in a conversation with Bell.
- A caller from Portland, Oregon, discusses the political landscape, expressing pessimism but noting a “win-win” situation with either Clinton or Dole as president. She mentions the quickening pace of the world and the challenges any president would face in such an environment.
- The same caller from Portland criticizes the hypocrisy she perceives in the legalized marijuana movement, claiming that excessive marijuana use can lead to physical and behavioral changes in men. She expresses skepticism about the effectiveness of grassroots movements in influencing government policy on marijuana legalization.
- Another caller, identifying as “Mitch Magic Christian” from Ventura, California, discusses his unique perspective on Christianity and magic. The conversation then shifts to biblical themes, particularly the resurrection of Jesus Christ. The caller questions Bell’s understanding of these themes, leading to a discussion about the nature of Jesus’ resurrected body.
- A caller from Utah humorously claims he can levitate, describing how he “levitates” for a few seconds by forcefully exerting himself upwards.
- The conversation shifts to a discussion about the Bible and Christian beliefs. A caller named Carmen Castro from San Francisco joins in, commenting on the diversity and eccentricity of the show’s callers and the entertainment value they bring.
- A caller discusses his aspiration to become a talk show host, inspired by listening to Art Bell. He shares his experience of sending resumes to radio stations and his preference for live, unscripted talk radio.
Bell mentions that the next show will feature a guest named Luba, who will discuss Russia. He expresses his interest in the topic, especially since he plans to visit Moscow and wants to learn more about what to expect.
The show closes with Bell acknowledging the broad range of topics discussed and the insights provided by his guests and callers. He highlights the value of having diverse and thought-provoking conversations on his program.