1997-01-13 – Steven Gibbs – Time Machine Inventor

Art introduces his guest, Stephen Gibbs, who claims to have created a time machine and even sold them. This story was featured in Strange Magazine, Issue 14, and Art directs listeners to his website for more details. Stephen Gibbs, not a scientist but an inventor, delves into his journey into time travel, which intriguingly began in 1981. He recounts a peculiar incident where he received a letter and a video from a video arcade store, supposedly from his future self. This letter, which initially seemed to be from an alternate version of himself, turned out to be a catalyst for his research into time travel. Gibbs describes different types of time travel, including physical, astral projection, and mental time travel, emphasizing his focus on actual physical time travel. He shares the evolution of his invention from the “Sonic Resonator” to the “Hyperdimensional Resonator,” which he now sells. Art, showing his technical background as a ham operator and microwave engineer, expresses curiosity about the workings of Gibbs’ time machine, setting the stage for a deeper exploration of this fascinating topic.

Art delves deeper into the topic of time travel with his guest, Stephen Gibbs. Gibbs clarifies that he keeps no secrets about his time machine, openly discussing its capabilities and limitations. However, he expresses concern for his safety due to negative feedback and potential government interest in his invention. Gibbs believes the government might be worried about his time travel technology falling into the wrong hands.

Gibbs explains that his device, which he refers to as a “white light generator,” can only be used by people with pure intentions. He asserts that those with bad intentions cannot use it for evil purposes. This claim contributes to the mixed reactions he receives, ranging from skepticism to hostility. Art mentions that Strange Magazine found enough validity in Gibbs’ work to publish a detailed article about him.

Gibbs further elaborates on the technical aspects of his time machine. He describes it as generating “white light energy” through tachyons, tiny particles with dimensional properties that enable time travel. He explains that there are different types of tachyons: positive ones for traveling to the future, negative ones for the past, and zero tachyons for other dimensions. The device’s operation involves converting solar energy and resonant light into time travel points.

Art, trying to grasp the complex explanation, asks about the frequency at which human souls operate, as Gibbs suggests that the soul’s energy is integral to the machine’s function.

Gibbs explains that his device operates by harnessing the soul’s energy, which he believes is around 78 Hertz. He describes a process where this energy is stepped up through a diode circuit, creating an AC/DC field that leads to the creation of a time warp. The energy is then transmitted through what Gibbs calls the “zero vector,” which he equates to the sphere or the creator, similar to the concept of zero-point energy.

Gibbs details the technical aspects of his machine, mentioning it involves an electromagnet with 21 gauge magnet wire wrapped around a steel core, powered by a standard AC outlet. The electromagnet is used to transmit low energies, which are stepped up through the circuit, into the user’s atomic chakra. This process is done by placing the electromagnet over the stomach region, conditioning the soul and aura for time travel.

Gibbs shares that he achieved success with his machine on the first attempt, crediting the schematic he received from someone else. He also mentions the versatility of his invention, suggesting it could be used for healing and enhancing psychic abilities. The first successful physical time travel, according to Gibbs, occurred in October 1986 using the hyperdimensional resonator.

Art Bell expresses understanding and intrigue about the technical explanations, while Gibbs acknowledges the skepticism and controversy surrounding his work. He also discusses his personal life, revealing that he still lives with his family, who are aware of his time travel research but don’t openly discuss it with others. The segment ends with Gibbs mentioning that he works on his time machine in a workshop at his farm.

Gibbs reveals that he has manufactured over 100 time machines since 1986, suggesting the possibility of numerous time travelers. He notes that many of his customers prefer to travel back in time, particularly to the 1500s, a period perceived as more peaceful and simpler.

Gibbs shares anecdotes about individuals who have used his machine. One notable story is about a person named Kaleo from Chicago, who planned to travel back to ancient Greece with his sister. Gibbs explains that some people use astral travel to scout out a time period before physically traveling there. However, he also mentions that after making these journeys, some individuals, including Kaleo, have disappeared without a trace.

Art raises concerns about the legal and social implications of people disappearing after using the time machine. He wonders if families or authorities have ever contacted Gibbs about missing persons. Gibbs acknowledges that most of his clients are disconnected from their families or society, making their disappearances less likely to cause alarm. He also notes that some people are interested in traveling to the future, like a customer from Australia who wanted to see the 21st century.

Gibbs has manufactured over 100 time machines since 1986 and estimates that between 36 to 50 users have disappeared, presumably traveling through time. He mentions that these individuals often seek to escape current times or enhance their psychic abilities.

Gibbs explains that the time machine works by harnessing the soul’s energy, believed to operate at around 78 Hertz. This energy is manipulated through a diode circuit, creating an AC/DC component, and then stepped up through what Gibbs calls the “zero vector” or zero-point energy. An electromagnet, activated by 110 AC and placed over the stomach region, is used to affect the soul and aura for time travel. He emphasizes the importance of being near a grid point on Earth, where gravitational wave lines intersect, to facilitate physical time travel.

The conversation also touches on Gibbs’ personal journey into time travel, which began with a mysterious letter in 1981, leading him to develop the machine based on a schematic he received. Gibbs also discusses the use of dowsing rods to locate grid points and the role of quartz crystals in enhancing the machine’s effectiveness. He sends a double-terminated quartz crystal with each unit to step up the light energies for successful time travel.

Gibbs explains that the machine operates through a combination of tachyons, diodes, and an electromagnet placed over the stomach. Users must be near a grid point on Earth, typically on the day of a full moon, to activate the machine. The process involves setting coordinates on the machine using dials until a ‘stick’ is felt on the rubbing plate, indicating the correct settings for the desired time and place.

Gibbs shares that the physical experience of time travel begins with feeling an earthquake-like sensation, followed by a bright white light that is so intense it’s impossible to open one’s eyes. This leads to a sensation of walking through a void before the surroundings start to form around the traveler, landing them in the programmed time and place. He notes that the transition takes approximately 2 minutes and 45 seconds.

Art raises concerns about the risks involved, such as materializing inside a solid object or in a dangerous location. Gibbs acknowledges these dangers but suggests that grid points might move to safer locations to avoid such scenarios. He also admits the possibility of travelers getting trapped in other dimensions, especially if they have bad intentions.

Gibbs expresses reluctance to sell his machine to someone intending to use it for personal financial gain, such as manipulating stock prices, due to the potential for greed-driven misuse.

Art then shifts the discussion to Gibbs’ personal life, asking what his mother would say about his time travel endeavors. Gibbs humorously suggests that his mother would likely dismiss it as “crazy stuff.” This leads to a question from a listener about why Gibbs himself hasn’t traveled through time. Gibbs explains that he’s not in a position to travel to any particular period and seems content with his current life, despite having the capability to time travel.

The conversation takes a more serious turn as Gibbs shares his insights into future events. He claims to have used his machine to see a minor shift in Earth’s axis around the year 2000, leading to significant global earthquakes. More alarmingly, he mentions witnessing the onset of World War III in September 1997 during a time travel experiment, involving a large aerial battle and intercontinental ballistic missiles. Gibbs hopes these events can be delayed or altered.

Art and Gibbs discuss the nature of time, with Gibbs stating that while the past is fixed, the future is malleable and certain events are predestined. He believes that time travelers can’t change the past in a way that affects others, only their own experience of it.

Gibbs explains that altering events in the past can shift a person into a parallel universe where the altered event corresponds with the new reality. This concept suggests that while one can change events, it doesn’t disrupt the original timeline but creates an alternate one.

Gibbs also addresses practical concerns about time travel, such as the possibility of getting stuck in another time period. He mentions a time limit of 6 to 9 hours for a journey, after which the traveler automatically returns to the present. However, this duration can be extended by programming the machine accordingly. Intriguingly, Gibbs claims that time travel has rejuvenating effects on the body, potentially healing injuries or illnesses.

A listener raises a question about the Montauk Project, referring to an experiment where scientists reportedly encountered a barrier in the year 2012, beyond which they found a post-apocalyptic Earth. Gibbs agrees with this account, suggesting that such a future could occur if certain events aren’t altered. He speculates that this barrier is linked to human consciousness and the human spirit, implying that the future is intertwined with collective human actions and beliefs.

The conversation touches on spiritual and metaphysical aspects, with Gibbs and Bell discussing the possibility of a significant spiritual event occurring around 2012. Gibbs is skeptical about Earth transcending into another dimension but believes the barrier in 2012 is a manifestation of human consciousness.

Gibbs emphasizes that one should never attempt to meet their other self in a different time period, as it could lead to disastrous consequences, such as being pushed into another dimension. He explains that altering events in the past shifts the traveler to a parallel universe where the altered event corresponds with the new reality.

Art inquires about the challenges of arriving in the past without identification like a social security card or driver’s license, and how one would navigate such situations. Gibbs shares his own plans to travel back to 1981 and considers using his current identification, despite the potential issues with dates.

Gibbs also introduces another device he’s working on, the Space Time Modulator (STM), a handheld unit designed for out-of-body experiences, though it hasn’t been tested yet. He contrasts this with his more established Hyper Resonator, which he claims has been proven effective.

The conversation then shifts to the logistics of manufacturing the time machines. Gibbs reveals it takes him about 3 to 4 days to build one machine, attributing the time mostly to manually intensive labor. He keeps a few units in stock for potential orders.

Gibbs provides his address for listeners interested in obtaining a catalog of his time travel devices. He mentions having a few units in stock, anticipating a possible increase in orders due to the show’s large audience.

A listener asks whether it’s possible to bring objects back from the past, like a pack of pre-war cigarettes. Gibbs confirms it’s possible, sharing an instance where someone retrieved a newspaper from 1945. However, he notes that objects from another time period may begin to fade after 3 to 4 days in the present.

Art then inquires about the implications of dying in a different time period. Gibbs suggests that if someone were to die in the past, they would only be dead in that time period, not in the present. However, he admits uncertainty about the exact mechanics of this scenario.

The conversation also touches on Gibbs’ previous time travel experience, where he witnessed a future war with bodies falling from the sky. This leads to a discussion about how Gibbs discerned it was a war and not a different kind of event, like an attempt to break up a meteor.

One caller from Los Angeles questions the moral implications of time travel, wondering why a machine capable of such complex operations would be affected by human morality like greed. Gibbs responds by suggesting that if the intent is to harm others, the “creator” might not allow the time travel to occur.

Another caller inquires about the grid points used for time travel, asking if they can be found over water. Gibbs affirms this possibility, noting that activating the machine over a body of water might even yield better results. He also mentions that the machine can be programmed to travel with the user, sharing an anecdote about a person who failed to do so and ended up with only part of the machine.

Art emphasizes the importance of a good instruction manual with the time machine to prevent such mishaps. Gibbs confirms that his machines come with detailed instructions, explaining that if someone doesn’t program the machine to stay in the past, they will automatically return after 6 to 9 hours. This addresses concerns about the lack of modern electrical outlets in historical times.

The conversation continues with more questions from callers, exploring various aspects of time travel, the practicalities of using the machine, and the potential for collaboration with other time travel enthusiasts like Mike Marcum.

One caller inquires about the possibility of swapping places with another version of oneself in a different dimension, akin to a “quantum leap.” Gibbs confirms that this type of time travel is possible and has been achieved by both himself and a friend in New York City.

Another caller, Michael from Indiana, asks if Gibbs would be willing to sell schematics or assembly instructions for his time machine, allowing individuals to build their own devices. Gibbs is open to this idea, suggesting that there are practically no limits to how far back in time one can travel, even to the era of Atlantis.

A caller from California raises a question about the health implications of time travel. Gibbs explains that traveling back in time can rejuvenate the body, potentially resolving health issues like a common cold or a broken leg. He also claims that repeated time travel can lead to physical perfection, sharing an anecdote about a woman who used time travel to eliminate wrinkles.

The conversation then shifts to the possibility of bringing objects or people back from the future. Gibbs notes the risks involved in bringing people from the past to the present, particularly rapid aging if they stay too long in the future.

A caller asks about the consequences of altering events in the past and how it affects one’s double in another dimension. Gibbs explains that changing an event would shift the traveler to a universe where their other self wasn’t present.

Another caller inquires about the cost of Gibbs’ time machine, to which Gibbs responds that it usually costs around $360. A caller from Ohio, working for a science company, discusses his work on similar technologies and expresses excitement about the potential of Gibbs’ device.

Gibbs addresses a question about the health benefits of time travel, suggesting that it can rejuvenate the body and even change physical appearance over multiple jumps. He also discusses the possibility of bringing objects and people back from the future, noting the risks involved, such as rapid aging.

Art Bell speculates about using time travel to alter past mistakes, like a political figure changing a report to avoid controversy. Gibbs suggests that this could be done through a “quantum leap,” where one swaps places with their other self in a different timeline.

The conversation also touches on the inspiration behind Gibbs’ invention, with a caller wondering if it was divinely inspired. Gibbs confirms that he believes it was. He describes the size and safety of the machine, mentioning an incident where a user overloaded her unit with too much energy, leading to dangerous consequences.

A caller from Virginia asks if it’s possible to interact with family members when traveling back to one’s childhood home. Gibbs suggests that while it might be possible, there could be risks involved, such as shifting to another dimension due to the connection with family members.

Another caller challenges Gibbs’ methods, claiming to work on similar experiments involving massive gravitational fields to approximate the density of a neutron star. This caller criticizes Gibbs for using electromagnetic fields and questions the validity of his approach. Art Bell, while acknowledging the criticism, points out the irony in the caller making grand claims without being willing to disclose details.

A caller from Tacoma inquires about the health implications of time travel for someone with a liver transplant. Gibbs speculates that time travel could potentially rejuvenate the body, possibly even replacing the transplanted liver.

As the show approaches its end, Gibbs indicates he needs to conclude the interview due to the late hour. Art Bell thanks him for his participation and invites listeners to read more about Gibbs and his time machine on the show’s website. The segment concludes with Art Bell transitioning to other news topics.

The conversation covers a range of subjects, including:

1. Legal and ethical issues surrounding the recording and distribution of a cellular telephone conversation involving Newt Gingrich and the Republican leadership. Art Bell expresses his frustration with the lack of principle and morality in politics, highlighting the partisanship that overshadows ethical considerations.
2. The Paula Jones case against President Bill Clinton and the implications of a sitting president being subject to lawsuits. Bell discusses the potential outcomes of the Supreme Court’s decision on this matter, pondering whether it’s appropriate for a president to face legal action while in office.
3. Campaign finance reform and the interpretation of political donations as a form of free speech protected under the First Amendment.
4. Severe winter weather affecting the United States and Europe, with Bell noting unusual weather patterns and suggesting that the climate may be changing.
5. A major story to be broken by Ed Davis on the show, scheduled for Thursday, January 30th, at 11:00 PM.
6. The outcome of recent football games, including the performance of the Green Bay Packers and the New England Patriots.
7. Earthquake activity in Mexico and the possibility of subsequent seismic events moving northward along the West Coast.
8. Observations of the Hale-Bopp comet: A caller describes viewing the comet through a telescope, noting its elongated nucleus and multiple streams in its tail. The discussion touches on the comet’s visibility and the excitement it generates among amateur astronomers.
9. Weather phenomena: Art Bell continues to discuss the severe winter weather affecting various parts of the United States and Europe, emphasizing the unusual and extreme conditions being experienced.
10. Satellite malfunction: A caller brings up an unconfirmed report about the Telstar 401 satellite, which allegedly stopped transmitting due to a possible collision with a meteor or space debris. Bell expresses interest in this topic and asks listeners for any additional information or confirmation.
11. Radio programming and audience preferences: Art Bell reflects on the unique content of his show, emphasizing his desire to explore unconventional topics and provide a platform for non-professional speakers. He defends his approach, stating that it’s driven by a desire to entertain and engage the audience with diverse and interesting subjects.
12. Amateur astronomy: A caller seeks advice on purchasing a telescope, leading to a discussion about different types of telescopes and their features. Bell shares his own experience with a telescope he received as a gift.
13. The Quickening: Bell and a caller discuss the concept of “the quickening,” referring to a perceived acceleration of events and changes in the world.
14. Electromagnetic Forces: A caller from Duluth mentions strange occurrences in the area, such as disappearing temples and a series of accidents, wondering if electromagnetic forces could be responsible.
15. Meteorite Sightings: A caller from Oceanside shares his experience of witnessing a meteorite while traveling from San Diego to Oceanside.
16. UFOs and Time Warps: The discussion touches on a segment from the Discovery Channel about UFOs, including an incident where a signal sent during World War II to the Queen Mary ship was received by the Queen Elizabeth II ship 50 years later.
17. Dependence on Satellites: Art Bell talks about the vulnerability of satellites to space debris and the potential impact of satellite failures on communications.
18. Airplane Accidents: A caller brings up the Comair flight incident in Detroit, discussing the possible causes of the crash.
19. Time Travel Interview: A caller from Santa Rosa comments on the earlier interview with Stephen Gibbs, expressing skepticism about Gibbs’ claims but appreciating the fascinating nature of the interview. Art Bell clarifies that his role is to present interesting topics and let the audience form their own opinions, rather than to challenge or endorse the claims of his guests.
20. Skeptical Inquiry: Another caller suggests that Art Bell should interview someone from the Skeptical Inquirer magazine, offering a different perspective on the paranormal and unexplained phenomena. Bell expresses interest in this idea.
21. Cocaine and Tobacco in Ancient Mummies: A caller discusses a forensic scientist’s discovery of cocaine and tobacco in ancient Egyptian mummies, suggesting pre-Columbian trans-Atlantic contact. This finding implies that there might have been trade routes established between the Americas and the Old World long before Columbus.
22. Real Talk Radio Recorder: Art Bell promotes a product called Real Talk, a radio recorder that allows listeners to record talk shows and listen to them later. He emphasizes its convenience and the special deal offered to his listeners.
23. Enlarged Prostate Treatment: Bell mentions a product called Dr. Michael Polinsky’s Super Prostate Formula, which is claimed to help with symptoms of an enlarged prostate.
24. Request for Stephen Gibbs’ Contact Information: A caller from Oklahoma asks for the zip code for Clearwater, Nebraska, to request a catalog from Stephen Gibbs. Bell promises to try and find the information amidst his numerous faxes.
25. Discussion on Michael Wolf: A caller from New Mexico brings up Michael Wolf, a guest who had previously appeared on the show and discussed his work with the government. The caller finds Wolf’s insights fascinating and inquires about obtaining tapes of his interviews.
26. Time Travel: Art Bell invites listeners to share where they would go and what they would do if they could travel through time.
27. O.J. Simpson Case: Bell expresses his fatigue with the ongoing coverage and discussions about O.J. Simpson, reflecting on how the case has been a constant media presence.
28. Biblical Prophecies and Chernobyl: A caller discusses the interpretation of the word “wormwood” in the Bible, relating it to the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. The caller also mentions concerns about the sarcophagus surrounding Chernobyl cracking and the potential risks involved.
29. Reptilian Encounters: Bell talks about a previous caller, Pamela, who had encounters with reptilian beings. He mentions her recent experience, which she described as satisfying but non-sexual.
30. Medical Profession and Nutrition: A caller from Portland, Oregon, brings up the topic of doctors and the medical profession’s approach to nutrition and health, suggesting that there is a tendency to favor expensive treatments over simple nutritional solutions.
31. Use of Veterinary Medicine for Humans: The conversation touches on the use of veterinary medicine for human conditions, with Bell cautioning about the differences in dosage and the potential risks involved.
32. Time Travel and Movies: A caller from Washington discusses the movie “The Langoliers” and its relation to time travel concepts. They also mention the show “Sliders,” which involves characters traveling to different dimensions.
33. Area 51 and Skunk Works: A caller who claims to have worked at Skunk Works discusses his experiences and the secrecy surrounding projects like the Stealth Fighter. He hints at the reality of Area 51 but is cautious about revealing too much due to confidentiality agreements.
34. Time Travel and Personal History: A caller from Portland, Oregon, who previously mentioned being blinded in a motorcycle accident, wonders about the implications of time travel on his condition. He asks if traveling back in time could prevent the accident and thus prevent his blindness.
35. Stephen Gibbs’ Time Machine: Art Bell reflects on the earlier interview with Stephen Gibbs, particularly the use of a 78 Hertz frequency in Gibbs’ time machine, which is thought to resonate with the brain or soul.
36. Time Travel and Eyesight: A caller from Kansas City discusses the theoretical implications of time travel on a previous caller’s blindness, suggesting that preventing the accident could restore his eyesight.
37. Skepticism about Stephen Gibbs: A caller from San Diego expresses skepticism about Stephen Gibbs’ claims, feeling that Gibbs might not be truthful about his time travel device.
38. Roswell UFO Incident: The conversation touches on the Roswell UFO incident, with a caller speculating that if the government has had alien technology for decades, they might have figured out how it works but are keeping it secret to prevent widespread access to such powerful technology.
39. Expanding Universe Theory: A new listener to the show brings up the expanding universe theory, relating it to changes in weather patterns and other global phenomena.
40. Skepticism and Belief: Art Bell discusses the tendency of some people to be skeptical of claims that don’t come from polished, professional speakers, emphasizing the importance of keeping an open mind.
41. Fiber Optic Technology: A caller suggests using fiber optic bundles to explore time travel or other dimensions, inspired by the discussion about Marcum’s machine.
42. Independence Day Movie: A caller from Northern Idaho discusses the theme of the movie “Independence Day,” particularly focusing on the concept of a one-world government versus a one-world effort.
43. Vaccine Production: The same caller raises questions about vaccine production, wondering how manufacturers know when and what to produce, hinting at darker implications.
44. Time Travel Theories: Art Bell expresses his fascination with the concept of time travel and the nature of time itself, pondering whether time is an invention of human perception and if travel within it could be possible in ways we don’t yet understand.
45. Alien Encounters: A caller mentions Jenny Randalls, an English paranormal researcher who has written a book about time travel. The caller suggests that alien encounters might be misunderstood visits from our future, with implications for human evolution and warnings about current actions affecting the planet.
46. Dilewar Camera: A caller from West Covina compares Stephen Gibbs’ radio-like device to the Dilewar camera, an invention from the 1950s used in England for making time photographs, as documented in the book “The Black Box” by Stephen Turner.
47. Time Travel and Paradoxes: A caller from Louisiana discusses the concept of paradoxes in time travel, particularly the idea of changing the past and its implications. Art Bell reflects on the answers provided by Stephen Gibbs regarding time travel paradoxes.
48. Gyroscopic Technology: A caller from Las Vegas shares information about gyroscopes, explaining how they operate at certain frequencies and can be used to manipulate physical properties.
49. Radio Station Changes: Art Bell comments on the changes in radio stations and programming, mentioning the acquisition of Rush Limbaugh by a Las Vegas radio station.
50. Near-Death Experiences: A caller from Saint Louis brings up a lecture on near-death experiences, noting that even blind people report seeing during these experiences but return to blindness upon revival.