In this episode of “Coast To Coast AM,” Art Bell, the venerable host, navigates a thrilling discussion with Dr. Steven M. Greer, a leading authority on extraterrestrial intelligence and the founder of the Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence (CSETI). Despite recent health challenges, Art brings his characteristic enthusiasm to a show that promises to delve deep into the realms of extraterrestrial contact and the implications for humanity. Dr. Greer, an emergency physician with a rich background in emergency medicine, shares his firsthand experiences with extraterrestrial spacecraft and his efforts to facilitate global disclosure about extraterrestrial intelligence. He discusses the CSETI’s Project Starlight initiative, aimed at garnering global acknowledgment of extraterrestrial beings through firsthand accounts from government, military, and aerospace officials. The discussion also touches upon the potential health risks associated with airline travel, offering practical advice to travelers. Dr. Greer’s ambitious goal is to assemble a coalition willing to disclose their knowledge about extraterrestrial events, aiming to present around 70 to 80 firsthand witnesses in a high-profile event, thereby enhancing credibility and ensuring safety through numbers.
Dr. Greer emphasizes the critical need for open congressional hearings to ensure a transparent global disclosure of extraterrestrial intelligence. He argues against covert or secret processes, advocating for a public vetting followed by open hearings, either through Congress or the United Nations. Despite promising discussions at the highest levels, Greer reveals efforts to thwart such disclosure initiatives, particularly at the United Nations, where high-ranking officials have faced interference and discouragement from undisclosed sources. This manipulation has included direct visits to UN officials, instructing them against pursuing any disclosure-related activities. Greer’s own experiences, including a thwarted opportunity to address the UN on interplanetary peace, highlight the challenges faced by advocates of disclosure. Despite these obstacles, Greer notes ongoing briefings with senior figures in the Clinton administration and Congress since 1993, aiming to resolve the complex issues surrounding the covert management of extraterrestrial-related secrets. The goal is to reintegrate extraordinary technologies and knowledge back into the government’s oversight with appropriate checks and balances, a task complicated by the entrenched secrecy and power structures within the government.
Dr. Greer further elaborates on the extensive secrecy surrounding extraterrestrial intelligence, sharing an anecdote to highlight the lack of information even among members of the Senate Intelligence Committee. This anecdote underscores the profound layers of secrecy that have enveloped the subject, so much so that even high-ranking officials are kept in the dark. Greer also mentions his unique position as possibly the only UFO researcher to have had a significant meeting with a director of the Central Intelligence Agency specifically about extraterrestrial intelligence, emphasizing the seriousness with which some in the highest levels of government take the subject.
He discusses the challenges of reintegrating those who have been excluded from the loop and the strategy devised to ensure a disclosure that is both scientific and credible without causing public alarm or a constitutional crisis. Greer asserts the existence of extraterrestrial contact as a given, based on the weight of evidence from various sources, including whistleblower testimonies, scientific evidence, government documents, and direct encounters. He stresses the importance of assembling a comprehensive body of evidence to support the case for extraterrestrial contact.
Moreover, Greer touches on the legal position regarding security oaths taken by individuals privy to extraterrestrial projects, arguing that these oaths are null and void because the operations they protect are outside the constitutional bounds of legal oversight. This stance has been communicated to key figures in the government and intelligence community, with Greer interpreting the lack of response as tacit permission to proceed with disclosures.
Dr. Greer is gearing up to present an extensive body of evidence and testimonies from insiders who have worked on extraterrestrial craft, aiming to prove the presence of extraterrestrial visitors. Despite the challenges and skepticism surrounding the topic, Greer is determined to make a compelling case for disclosure. He outlines a strategic approach to involve elected officials in the disclosure process, giving them the opportunity to take control of the narrative and be part of a historic unveiling. However, Greer also prepares for the possibility of bypassing traditional governmental channels if necessary. He discusses the potential for presenting the information through the United Nations or other international platforms, emphasizing the importance of public disclosure regardless of the medium. Greer stresses the legality and ethical imperative of bringing this information to light, aiming to move forward with or without official government cooperation.
Greer clarifies that the secrecy surrounding extraterrestrial phenomena is not a product of the government as a whole but rather the result of highly compartmentalized, secretive projects that even high-ranking officials within the government and military are often unaware of. He highlights the importance of the U.S. as the primary venue for disclosure due to its global media influence, its status as the remaining superpower, and the concentration of witnesses within its borders.
Greer discusses his interactions with officials from the United Kingdom and other countries, underscoring the global nature of secretive extraterrestrial projects and the common issues of oversight and knowledge gaps among nations. He argues that while the U.S. is a critical starting point for disclosure, efforts are also being made to engage international bodies like the United Nations and other nations as parallel tracks to ensure a comprehensive approach to revealing extraterrestrial contact.
Furthermore, Greer suggests the media as an alternative avenue for disclosure should governmental and international efforts fail, expressing a desire to collaborate on a documentary and book project that would bring this information to the public. He emphasizes the importance of working with think tanks, institutes, and other entities to circumvent governmental reluctance and bring the reality of extraterrestrial intelligence and technology to the forefront of public awareness. Greer remains cautiously optimistic about elected officials’ willingness to engage with the subject but is prepared to bypass official channels if necessary to achieve disclosure.
Dr. Greer emphasizes the necessity of presenting extraterrestrial evidence in a credible, world-class manner to engage the media effectively, underscoring the failure of conventional media to adequately cover the subject. He suggests that significant events like congressional hearings or UN conferences could serve as platforms to draw serious media attention, contrasting these with less impactful UFO conferences. Greer highlights the importance of gathering extraordinary evidence to support the claims of extraterrestrial contact, including witness testimonies, photographic, and physical evidence, to make a convincing case to both the public and congress.
Greer reveals that his team has access to substantial physical evidence related to extraterrestrial technology and encounters, suggesting the potential for a significant reveal if given the proper forum, such as a congressional hearing or a scientific inquiry. However, he acknowledges the strategic challenge of positioning this evidence to ensure it is taken seriously by the media and the public.
Moreover, Greer discusses the possibility of direct public engagement with extraterrestrial phenomena through training sessions designed to teach people how to observe and potentially interact with UFOs using various protocols, including electromagnetic signals and remote viewing. He believes that grassroots efforts to document and establish contact could lead to undeniable evidence of extraterrestrial presence that could not be ignored.
Dr. Greer discusses his engagement with members of Congress, mentioning that there are about 60 members who are personal friends of individuals within the CSETI network. He acknowledges having conducted private briefings with numerous senators and congressmen across party lines. Specifically, he mentions Representative Schiff as one of the individuals who will be invited to an upcoming briefing in Washington, highlighting the extensive efforts to foster dialogue and awareness among political leaders about extraterrestrial intelligence.
Dr. Greer confirms the existence of groups like Majestic 12, albeit under different names over time, noting the current acronym he was aware of as “PI-40.” He emphasizes that the real power and decision-making on this issue are not within the government but in the private sector, challenging the conventional narrative about where extraterrestrial secrets are held.
As the discussion comes to a close, Dr. Greer provides contact information for CSETI and encourages those with evidence or knowledge of government witnesses to reach out. He also mentions an upcoming training session in Colorado for those interested in learning more about making contact with extraterrestrial intelligence. The segment ends with Art Bell expressing interest in following up with Dr. Greer after his spring meeting to discuss the progress and outcomes of their disclosure efforts.
Art Bell shares a fascinating account from a listener in rural eastern Washington about a mysterious hole on their property that seems to have no bottom. The hole, described as nine feet nine inches in diameter with a stone retaining wall and a steel door to prevent accidents, has been used for decades to dispose of various items without ever filling up. Despite attempts to measure its depth using thousands of feet of fishing line, the bottom has not been reached, leading to speculation about its origins and depth. Additionally, animals seem to avoid the hole, and thrown objects, including a refrigerator, don’t produce any sound of impact, suggesting an extraordinarily deep or unusual nature to the hole.
One caller delves into the subject of the STS-48 footage, which some believe captures evidence of UFOs, and mentions Dr. Jack Kasher’s analysis, which challenges the official explanation of ice crystals. This discussion highlights ongoing debates about the nature of unidentified objects observed during space missions and the implications of these sightings.
Art also discusses a recent observation by shuttle astronauts of Comet Hale-Bopp, noting that it appeared to have two tails. This detail adds to the fascination with the comet, which has captivated observers around the world.
A caller, who previously predicted the discovery of a mysterious hole, plays back a recording of his prediction, impressing both Art and the audience with his foresight. This discussion adds a layer of intrigue to the already fascinating tale of the bottomless hole in rural eastern Washington, with Art humorously recounting his attempt to measure the hole’s depth using fishing line.
Listeners continue to call in with various topics, from celestial observations, like Comet Hale-Bopp, to requests for Bigfoot sounds. Art’s engagement with his audience, whether discussing the possibility of undiscovered natural phenomena or sharing personal mishaps, highlights the unique and captivating nature of his show. It’s a space where listeners can explore the boundaries of the known world while also connecting over common human experiences, like a mishap with super glue.
Further discussions include plans to interview Emily Lau, an elected representative from Hong Kong, highlighting the show’s reach into international politics and the risks individuals take to share their stories. The segment concludes with a caller from Canada inquiring about future plans for the show’s broadcast on satellite networks, reflecting the broad and engaged listener base Art has cultivated.
A caller from San Diego mentions visiting C2C AM’s broadcast center in Medford, Oregon, and sends Art a package from a band called Big Machine, which they describe as the “soundtrack to the end of the world.” This intriguing gift piques Art’s interest, and he mentions the possibility of playing some of their music on his show.
Another caller brings up the movie “Mars Attacks!” and suggests that Art Bell might have inspired one of the characters, played by Jack Nicholson, who is depicted as a Las Vegas showman with a penchant for UFOs and extraterrestrial phenomena. The caller points out similarities between Nicholson’s character and Art, including a mustache and thematic attire, making for a humorous and surprising connection.
Discussions also touch on health concerns related to air travel, echoing earlier conversations about the risks of getting sick from flying. Art shares his own frustrating experience with super glue, which led to a portion of his lip being accidentally glued, causing him both pain and amusement.
Listeners also inquire about future guests, including Wayne Green, who had previously discussed alternative treatments for diseases like cancer and lupus. This reflects the broad range of topics that Art’s audience finds compelling, from health and science to conspiracy theories and paranormal phenomena.
The segment concludes with Art expressing his lifelong dream of acquiring WABC’s old jingle package, highlighting his deep appreciation for radio’s history and his place within it.
Art shares more about the challenges and curiosities that come with broadcasting, including an ongoing debate about UFO disclosure. He expresses skepticism towards governments willingly sharing information about extraterrestrial encounters, suggesting that such revelations are more likely to come from whistleblowers or accidental disclosures than from official announcements.
Listeners bring a variety of topics to the table, from experiments with reflecting sunlight down a mysterious deep hole to the reactions of pets to yeti yells played on the show. Art’s personal mishap with super glue continues to be a topic of amusement and sympathy among callers.
The segment also touches on historical religious figures, personal experiences with unidentified aerial phenomena, and the strategic importance of safety in numbers when coming forward with sensitive information. Dr. Steven Greer’s efforts to organize a collective disclosure event are discussed, with Art supporting the approach of gathering credible witnesses to testify about their experiences in a controlled, official setting.
The conversation shifts to technology, with a caller praising the performance of a Beijing radio model recommended by Art, highlighting the community of technology enthusiasts among the show’s listeners.
Art Bell’s show continues to delve into a mix of intriguing discussions and personal anecdotes. The Coast to Coast AM audio subscription service, now named Coast Insider, is highlighted, offering listeners access to a wealth of content, including past shows and special features.
Art addresses the skepticism around government disclosure of UFOs and extraterrestrial encounters, emphasizing his belief that such revelations are unlikely to come from official sources. This discussion ties into the broader themes of secrecy and the unknown that are staples of the show.
Listeners contribute a variety of topics, from technological tips for using solar power packs to observations of asteroids and biblical references to cosmic events. The conversation also touches on recent updates to the Coast to Coast AM website, including links to Dr. Steven Greer’s CSETI project and discussions about the comet Hale-Bopp.
Art shares a humorous yet troubling incident involving super glue, which led to him accidentally gluing parts of his mouth. This personal story sparks a conversation about remedies and the unintended consequences of quick fixes.
The show takes a turn towards discussing the credibility and impact of figures like Steven Greer and Richard Hoagland in the UFO research community. A caller questions the potential effectiveness of Greer’s efforts to organize a disclosure event, given the media’s previous neglect of similar endeavors. This reflects ongoing debates within the UFO and conspiracy theory communities about the best approaches to seeking truth and gaining public recognition.
Listeners also inquire about Ed Dames and his views on remote viewing and the existence of secretive government groups like MJ-12. This leads to a broader discussion about the nature of secret knowledge, government transparency, and the quest for truth in a world filled with hidden agendas.
Art then transitions to a listener’s dream, which the caller believes to be prophetic, depicting a government-sponsored suicide chamber as a solution to a world plagued by famine and disease. This dystopian vision sparks a conversation about the value of life and the choices people might be forced to make in dire circumstances.
The discussion takes a lighter turn as Art addresses rumors of his demise, which had been circulating on the internet. He humorously reads a fabricated press release announcing his death, showcasing his ability to find humor even in the macabre. This segment illustrates Art’s resilience and his connection with his audience, as listeners express concern and curiosity about his well-being.
The show continues with a caller expressing appreciation for Dr. Steven Greer’s appearance and the insights into UFO phenomena and government secrecy. This ties back to Art’s ongoing exploration of the unknown and the government’s role in concealing or revealing extraterrestrial encounters.
Art Bell humorously recounts the aftermath of his super glue incident, sharing the reaction of his cats to his illness and the curiosity of listeners about the ordeal. The show then transitions to a caller from Arkansas who shares a dream that he interprets as prophetic, involving a government-sponsored “suicide chamber” as a solution to global calamities. This dark and dystopian vision sparks a conversation about societal responses to crisis and the value of life.
Another caller from the D.C. area shares his amusement over Art’s super glue mishap, leading to a humorous misunderstanding with his wife. This light-hearted exchange highlights the personal connections and shared moments of humor between Art and his audience, even in the midst of exploring serious or mysterious topics.
The discussion takes a more investigative turn with the story of a mysterious hole in rural eastern Washington, referred to by a caller as potentially being over 50 miles deep. Art expresses interest in further investigating this intriguing anomaly, inviting the caller, Mel, to provide more details. The hole, which never seems to fill despite decades of debris being thrown into it, captures the imagination and curiosity of both Art and his listeners, embodying the show’s fascination with the unexplained and the unknown.
A humorous interaction occurs when a caller tries to impersonate Mel but is quickly debunked by Art, showcasing the show’s lighter side amidst more serious discussions. Another caller brings up Dr. Steven Greer’s work and the philosophical implications of treating individuals with differing moral backgrounds, tying it back to the broader themes of morality and humanity’s future.
Art talks about his upcoming book, “The Quickening,” reflecting his thoughts on accelerated changes in society, technology, and the natural world. This conversation ties into the show’s recurring themes of transformation and the unknown, resonating with listeners who are also contemplating these rapid changes.
The discussion shifts back to the mysterious hole, with callers offering various theories and suggestions for further exploration. One caller from Cleveland, Washington, proposes using a hose reel to lower a video camera into the hole to investigate its depths. This idea sparks imagination among the audience, drawing parallels to “Journey to the Center of the Earth” and stirring excitement about what might be discovered.
Mel explains his current situation, living in town due to damage to his property from heavy snowfall, setting the stage for a more detailed discussion about the hole’s discovery, its characteristics, and any attempts to understand or explore its depths.
Mel shares that the hole has been used for decades to dispose of various items without ever filling up. He details his efforts to measure the depth using fishing line, revealing that he’s dropped about 80,000 feet of line without hitting bottom. Despite attempts to explore the hole, including trying to light up its depths with powerful flashlights, visibility remains poor, and the nature of the hole’s walls transitions from stone to soil and rock deeper down.
Mel describes unusual behaviors around the hole, such as the refusal of dogs to approach it and the lack of an echo when yelling into it, adding to the hole’s mysterious aura. He also mentions attempts to detect water at the bottom by lowering lifesavers, which would dissolve upon contact with water, a trick borrowed from his shark fishing days. However, the results of these experiments remain unclear.
The conversation touches on potential scientific interest in the hole, with Mel’s wife working at a local university that finds the depth reached by the fishing line quite incredible. Despite this, there seems to be no concerted effort yet to investigate the hole further scientifically.
Art Bell’s conversation with Mel, the discoverer of the seemingly bottomless hole in Eastern Washington, delves deeper into the mysterious attributes and history of the hole. Mel recounts various attempts to measure the depth of the hole, including using fishing line weighted with a one-pound weight, which has descended about 80,000 feet without reaching the bottom. Despite these efforts, the true depth remains unknown, and the hole continues to defy explanation.
Mel also shares local legends and personal experiences related to the hole, including a story about a dog that was thrown into the hole, only to reportedly return to its owner. This tale contributes to the hole’s mystique, suggesting it may have supernatural qualities. Mel expresses a desire to investigate any connections between the hole and Native American lore, as the land around the hole is on traditional Native American territory.
The discussion takes an even more speculative turn when Mel mentions that it is in his will to have his remains disposed of in the hole if he were to pass away, sparking a conversation about the potential environmental impact of such actions. Despite concerns about contamination, Mel asserts that the water in the area remains pure and unaffected by what has been thrown into the hole.
The discussion reveals that the hole’s depth significantly exceeds the Mariana Trench, the deepest known point in Earth’s oceans, making it a candidate for a Guinness World Record. Mel expresses his reluctance to be lowered into the hole while alive, but interestingly, he’s open to the idea posthumously, as mentioned in his will.
Listeners call in with their thoughts and questions for Mel. One caller from Austin, Texas, volunteers to be lowered into the hole, suggesting the use of a cage for protection against potential subterranean threats. This adventurous caller also proposes bringing a camera with a light to document the descent, despite the mysterious and possibly supernatural nature of the hole, highlighted by stories of animals’ aversion to it and tales of a resurrected dog.
The conversation touches on the paranormal, with speculation about the hole being located on a grid point, a concept often associated with Earth’s energy lines. Mel and Art discuss the hole’s peculiar characteristics, including the lack of echoes and animals’ fear of it, which add to the mystery and intrigue.
As the show progresses, the idea of experimenting with the hole, such as lowering objects or animals into it to gauge reactions or echoes, is met with mixed reactions. The notion of throwing a cat into the hole, suggested by a listener, is quickly dismissed by Art as a horrible idea, underscoring the ethical considerations in exploring unknown phenomena.
Art Bell and Mel continue discussing the mysterious hole in Eastern Washington, with listeners calling in to suggest various methods to investigate its depths. One caller proposes using radar technology to determine the hole’s depth, arguing that radar could provide accurate measurements without requiring a physical medium like water for sonar. However, Mel expresses uncertainty about the feasibility of using radar for such a deep and confined space.
The conversation then shifts to the potential uses of the hole, with suggestions ranging from a refuse disposal solution to a high-level nuclear waste dump. These ideas highlight the hole’s perceived bottomlessness and its potential utility, albeit with a hint of humor regarding its inexplicable nature.
Listeners also propose sending down a sensor package to measure gases, temperature, and other environmental factors, suggesting that modern technology could offer new insights into the hole’s properties. Another idea involves lowering a camera with a light source to visually explore the hole, inspired by the night’s full moon and speculative connections to astronomical alignments, similar to ancient structures aligned with star systems.
Mel shares additional observations, including the absence of echoes from objects dropped into the hole and the lack of any splash sounds, even when dropping old television tubes. These details underscore the hole’s unusual characteristics and deepen the mystery surrounding its true nature.
The segment touches on concerns about the hole being an attractive nuisance and the potential dangers it poses, especially to local children. Mel considers consulting local Native American communities for any historical or spiritual significance the hole might hold, hinting at a deeper, possibly ancient connection to the land.
A caller proposes using radar technology to measure the depth of the hole, but there’s uncertainty about its effectiveness in such a unique situation. Mel explains that the first series of line he let down was about 4,500 feet with a roll of Lifesavers attached to determine if there was any water, but since then, he’s continuously added more line without retrieving it, aiming to find the bottom.
A suggestion comes in about possibly renting the hole to the government for disposal if it truly is bottomless, hinting at its potential value. Callers from Washington express surprise they haven’t heard of this phenomenon before, suggesting the story has been kept relatively quiet until now. The weight of the fishing line itself becomes a topic of discussion, with speculation about whether the line could have hit bottom and the sheer mass of the line continues to pull itself down due to its weight.
Mel also mentions he’s considering setting up a webpage to document the hole’s exploration, showing some reluctance to attract media attention and a flood of public interest to his private property. The conversation touches on the hole’s potential scientific and paranormal implications, including its temperature, magnetism, and whether it has any connection to grid points or ley lines known in paranormal circles.
Art Bell and Mel’s discussion about the mysterious hole in Eastern Washington concludes with various callers offering theories and suggestions for further investigation. A caller from Scottsdale mentions similar phenomena of objects falling from the sky, likening it to Mel’s hole’s enigmatic nature. Another caller suggests using radar technology to determine the hole’s depth, but doubts about its applicability in such a unique context are raised.
The conversation touches on the potential scientific implications of the hole, with suggestions of measuring the total strain on the line to deduce if it’s draped on something or laying on the bottom. Despite these technical discussions, the deepest known point remains Mel’s hole, with the depth significantly surpassing any known geological feature.
Mel reaffirms his commitment to finding out more about the hole, contemplating the creation of a website to document his findings. The temperature and potential magnetic properties of the hole as it goes deeper into the Earth are discussed, with speculation about what could survive such conditions.
The ethical considerations of what or who to lower into the hole for exploration purposes are debated, with a strong stance against using animals and a humorous suggestion to use a media person instead. Mel insists he has not reached the bottom yet, despite the extensive amount of line used, and remains puzzled by the hole’s ability to consume everything thrown into it without filling up.
The story of a dog that was supposedly thrown into the hole and later seen alive adds a layer of supernatural intrigue to the discussion. Mel and the callers speculate about the hole’s properties, considering whether it could have resurrection capabilities or if it’s a portal to another dimension.