1997-06-16 – Scott Corrales – Chupacabras

Show: Coast To Coast AM

Air Date: June 16, 1997

Guest(s): Scott Corrales

Topic(s): Chupacabras

Art Bell’s “Coast to Coast AM” episode from June 16, 1997 features Scott Corrales, who lived in Mexico City and Puerto Rico, discussing his new book, “Sugar, Corporate, and Other Mysteries.” Art humorously acknowledges his struggle with Spanish names and makes some announcements about the show’s schedule changes in San Diego and new affiliates in Idaho. Additionally, Art promotes the Coast Insider subscription service, highlighting its extensive archive and member benefits. The discussion touches on paranormal topics, including a segment on the skepticism surrounding the official 9/11 narrative. The episode sets the stage for an intriguing conversation with Scott Corrales about the paranormal and UFO phenomena.

Scott Corrales describes a series of strange events in Puerto Rico starting around 1991, including mysterious mutilations of domestic animals, which peaked in 1995. The local media initially considered these occurrences as domestic issues. In 1989, a fanged bird known as the Chota Cabarrus caused confusion as it was thought to be responsible for the mutilations. Scott suggests that these phenomena, including the infamous Chupacabra, are paranormal rather than linked to UFOs, comparing them to other mythical creatures like Mothman and the Lizard Man of North Carolina. Art Bell and Scott discuss the documented cases of animal deaths and the widespread belief in the Chupacabra across different countries, including Mexico, Spain, and Portugal. The phenomenon began in Puerto Rico in March 1995, with reports of sheep drained of blood and sightings of strange entities resembling gray aliens. Scott notes that there are no legitimate photographs of the Chupacabra, despite the many images circulating online, and emphasizes the importance of the identikit image created by researcher Tim Austin in 1995.

Scott Corrales continues describing the Chupacabra as a creature with a kangaroo-like body, a humanoid head with wraparound red eyes, and small quills running down its back. It’s seen floating rather than flying, with membranes under its arms. The creature reportedly has a proboscis used to puncture and drain animals of their blood and sometimes organs, leaving victims hollow. Art and Scott discuss the improbability of natural predators like dogs or feral monkeys being responsible for such precise mutilations. They also note that autopsies confirm these bizarre injuries. Despite official explanations, the phenomenon remains unexplained, with some suggesting a link to vampire bats due to the presence of a viscous lather on victims.

The Chupacabra attacks by mesmerizing animals and using a proboscis to drain their blood and organs, leaving them hollow. While there have been no confirmed human attacks, reports of its presence and horrifying screams are common. The creature’s speed is debated, though some claim it can move rapidly. Sightings vary widely, with some describing it as a winged humanoid, leading to confusion and fear. Scott Corrales mentions that his book, “Chupacabras and Other Mysteries,” will be available on July 4th.

The conversation between Art Bell and Scott Corrales delves into various theories about the Chupacabra, including the possibility of it being a result of genetic experiments or a creature linked to UFOs. Scott explains that Puerto Rico has a history of being a testing ground for various experiments, which could support the theory of the Chupacabra being a laboratory creation. He mentions a claim from the 1950s where a military policeman reported seeing Chupacabras as part of the cargo manifest of a crashed UFO. Despite these claims, Scott prefers to avoid linking the Chupacabra to UFOs, noting that during sightings in Mexico, no UFO activity was reported. The discussion shifts to the hard evidence of animals being drained of blood and organs, which local authorities often dismiss as attacks by dogs or feral monkeys. However, medical professionals in Puerto Rico have confirmed the impossibility of such precise mutilations by known animals. The phenomenon has led to a mix of fear and humor among the public, with city dwellers making light of it while farmers remain terrified. The conversation touches on historical precedents like the 1970s “Mocca Vampire,” which exhibited similar behaviors but was never seen or documented.

Scott Corrales leans towards a paranormal explanation for the Chupacabra, noting that such creatures often appear for a short period, create a sensation, and then disappear, similar to West Virginia’s Mothman. Art Bell and Scott discuss the possibility of these creatures being interdimensional beings, which could explain their sudden appearances and disappearances. Another theory is that these entities might be products of black magic or sorcery, heavily practiced in the Caribbean. Scott recounts an experience in Mexico where he encountered what appeared to be a witchcraft altar in a natural food store, further suggesting the influence of ritual magic. Despite skepticism, Scott has observed the powerful effects of such rituals on people, leading him to consider the possibility that magic could bring elemental creatures from another realm. The conversation also touches on the public’s belief in government concealment of alien contact, influenced by media and popular culture. As scientific discoveries hint at the possibility of life beyond Earth, people feel increasingly conditioned to believe in hidden truths.

Art Bell resumes the conversation with Scott Corrales about the Chupacabra, reiterating its alleged ability to drain animals of blood and organs. Art plays a recording of what is considered a Bigfoot sound, which he suggests might resemble the Chupacabra. Scott confirms that there have been Bigfoot sightings in Puerto Rico, adding another layer of mystery. The discussion moves to the possibility of these creatures being linked to genetic experiments, citing examples of strange hybrid animals created in labs. Art and Scott ponder the implications of such research and its potential to produce creatures like the Chupacabra, possibly originating from secretive experiments in places like Puerto Rico or the Bahamas. They express concerns over the extent of genetic manipulation happening in labs and the ethical implications of such practices.

Scott Corrales explains that Chupacabra activity in Puerto Rico decreased after January 1996 but resurged in the spring, leaving behind a strong sulfur smell. Although the creature has not been seen recently, animal mutilations continue. Scott believes this cyclical pattern of appearances and disappearances aligns with other paranormal phenomena. Art Bell compares it to the Ebola virus’s unpredictable outbreaks. They discuss the possibility of the Chupacabra being a product of devil worship or ritual magic, noting that such practices could produce similar wounds on animals. Scott mentions that Chupacabras have left radiation signatures in Puerto Rico and Guatemala, suggesting a potential link to interdimensional theories. These creatures might require radioactive elements to manifest in our dimension, leaving behind radiation as they disintegrate. The lack of strong scientific information remains a challenge for researchers.

Scott Corrales elaborates on how Geiger counter readings in Puerto Rico and Guatemala detected radiation linked to Chupacabra sightings. Latin American research often faces skepticism, but sightings in the U.S. Southwest have lent credibility to these reports. Unlike in the U.S., where the Chupacabra is often ridiculed, in Mexico, it is taken seriously due to a longstanding belief in supernatural beings like shapeshifters and elementals. The conversation shifts to the possibility that humans might create these monsters through powerful mental projections, drawing parallels to Tibetan monks who create “tulpas” or solid thought forms. This idea raises the question of whether societal fear and imagination could bring such creatures into existence.

Art Bell receives a fax about severe weather, reflecting broader environmental changes such as new diseases, ozone depletion, and melting ice shelves. He asks Scott Corrales if strange creatures like the Chupacabra could be products of these changes. Scott suggests this possibility, noting parallels with millennial religious prophecies. They take a call from Edmonton, Alberta, where a listener questions the propagation of legends like Bigfoot and the Chupacabra. Scott dismisses the idea of widespread hoaxes, emphasizing the seriousness with which these phenomena are treated in certain cultures.

Another caller from Redding shares an incident involving a Bigfoot sighting near a reservation in Forks, Washington. The caller recounts how a reservation cop, along with a Coast Guard commander, witnessed a large hairy creature crossing the road, followed by two children who saw the creature the next morning near a river. The locals, referring to the creature as Sasquatch, frequently encounter such beings but are often reluctant to discuss them due to fear of ridicule.

Scott Corrales explains that Bigfoot sightings are not limited to the Pacific Northwest but are also reported in Mexico and other parts of Latin America. In the Andes, there is a Sasquatch-like creature called the Ucumar-Zupai, described as an eight-foot-tall, hairy being. Similar creatures are reported in Brazil’s Amazon region and the Sierra Madre mountains of Mexico, which remain largely unexplored. Bigfoot sightings extend to Central America, including Belize and Honduras, and even the Pyrenees between France and Spain. Despite the belief that most land has been explored, there are still areas untouched by humans where such creatures might exist.

A caller from Massachusetts mentions seeing strange lights and connects the discussion to environmental changes, such as mutating frogs. Art Bell and Scott agree that environmental changes, potentially caused by radiation, could lead to the creation of such creatures. They discuss the possibility that the Chupacabra and other mysterious beings might be products of genetic mutations influenced by these changes. Another caller from Phoenix expresses interest in the ongoing mystery of the Chupacabra, highlighting the widespread fascination with these unexplained phenomena.

A caller asks Scott Corrales about the possibility of capturing video evidence of the Chupacabra, given the prevalence of video cameras. Scott mentions a project in Puerto Rico in 1996 that used night vision and camcorders, though the outcome is unclear. He explains that while people have access to cameras, the shock and immobilization experienced during sightings often prevent them from taking photos. This lack of photographic evidence remains a point of contention, with skeptics likely dismissing any future footage as a hoax or manipulation.

Art Bell and Scott discuss the hypothetical impact of capturing Chupacabra on camera, noting that while Spanish society might accept it as validation, American skeptics would likely demand more proof. The conversation shifts to Bigfoot, with Art mentioning a scientist’s controversial suggestion to kill one Bigfoot to prove its existence, then place it on the endangered species list. Scott reluctantly agrees that capturing definitive proof might require such drastic measures, though it raises ethical concerns about the treatment of potentially sentient beings.

Scott Corrales continues discussing the widespread sightings of Chupacabra and similar creatures, emphasizing their impact across different regions. He mentions that while sightings have occurred in the U.S., such as the Florida incident where a creature scratched a car bumper, the phenomenon has mostly been reported in Spanish-speaking countries. This raises questions about whether the Chupacabra is more than just a regional myth. Art Bell and Scott consider the possibility that these creatures might be connected to broader environmental changes or other unexplained phenomena.

Scott explains that after Florida, sightings moved west to Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California, reaching as far north as Oregon. However, the eastern seaboard has seen fewer reports. He also notes that after appearing in the U.S., the Chupacabra phenomenon spread to Spain, Portugal, and further into South America, though reliable information from Colombia and Venezuela is lacking. This pattern has led some to speculate whether the Chupacabra is particularly associated with Spanish-speaking populations, but Scott believes it to be a more universal phenomenon, not confined to any single culture or region.

Scott Corrales discusses the cultural acceptance of paranormal phenomena in Spanish-speaking countries, possibly due to African influences and a deep-rooted belief in the supernatural. He explains that UFO sightings in Mexico City have become so common that people barely react to them anymore. A caller from Missouri asks about Bigfoot sightings in suburban areas, and Scott mentions past sightings, including one in Hialeah, Florida, researched by Loren Coleman. Art Bell notes that human encroachment into previously unexplored areas, like the Amazon rainforest, might explain new sightings of creatures and outbreaks of diseases.

They also discuss a new virus off the U.S. East Coast that activates in toxic water, killing fish and making people sick. A caller from Tacoma asks about the longevity and reproduction of Chupacabras, to which Scott responds that Chupacabras have been seen in groups, suggesting a plurality of beings. The creatures emit strong chemical odors, further distinguishing them from natural animals. Another caller from Seattle describes waking up with strange branding marks on her body, which resemble severe burns and have deep bruises in the center, a phenomenon that intrigues Scott and aligns with other mysterious occurrences.

A caller from Seattle describes mysterious branding marks appearing on her body, asking Scott Corrales if he’s aware of similar cases. Scott connects this to poltergeist phenomena and advises documenting the occurrences. The caller mentions taking photographs and keeping a journal as suggested by a local doctor. Art Bell expresses interest in seeing the photos and suggests the caller send copies.

Another caller from Illinois, who drives a truck at night, asks about the possibility of government cover-ups if a Chupacabra were ever found. Scott acknowledges the likelihood of such a scenario, drawing parallels to UFO research, where evidence is often concealed. He emphasizes the importance of documenting and preserving research for future generations who might better understand these phenomena.

A caller from Chicago questions whether creatures like Chupacabra and Bigfoot might be long-existing animals becoming more visible due to human encroachment into their habitats. Scott acknowledges this possibility but notes the unusual traits of these creatures, such as emitting radiation and chemical odors, which challenge the notion of them being ordinary animals.

Scott Corrales discusses the possibility that some of these mysterious creatures might come from underground, especially as humans drill deeper into the earth for resources like oil and minerals. He mentions that creatures with luminous eyes could potentially survive underground. The conversation returns after a break, with Scott’s book “Chupacabras and Other Mysteries” highlighted. Art Bell continues with listener questions, touching on the prevalence of paranormal and extraterrestrial beliefs in Latin American cultures.

Scott emphasizes that, unlike in some parts of the world, UFO sightings in Mexico are common and often met with little surprise. A caller from Missouri asks about Bigfoot sightings in suburban areas, to which Scott confirms past reports, including one in Hialeah, Florida. He notes that as humans encroach on previously untouched areas, they may encounter new and strange creatures.

The discussion also covers the possibility of underground creatures emerging due to deep drilling. Scott explains that researchers in Puerto Rico largely agree on the reality of the Chupacabra phenomenon, with many attributing it to extraterrestrial origins. Despite skepticism, there’s a consensus among local researchers about the existence of these mysterious beings and their impact.

Art Bell and Scott Corrales discuss a recent survey by CNN and USA Today showing that eight out of ten Americans believe the government is hiding information about alien contact. A caller from Puerto Rico shares experiences with the Chupacabra and mentions the island’s extensive cave systems, suggesting that these creatures might come from underground. The caller also notes the island’s UFO sightings and possible connections to military animal experimentation.

Scott highlights that the Taino Indians had legends of bat-like creatures, indicating a deep-rooted cultural mythology. However, the Chupacabra is a more recent phenomenon not found in historical records. Another caller from Montana asks about the connection between environmental issues, such as dying animals, and sightings of creatures like Bigfoot. The caller speculates that if the Chupacabra were created in a laboratory, it might lack a natural way to survive, leading to its destructive behavior and eventual death.

Scott acknowledges the possibility but emphasizes that no significant manhunt or concrete evidence has emerged to confirm such theories.

A caller from Colorado mentions seeing a photograph of what was claimed to be a Chupacabra at a UFO conference, describing it as bat-like and in mid-flight. He promises to send the photograph to Art Bell for scrutiny. Scott Corrales recounts a similar incident where a winged cat, a mutilated cat with wings attached, was paraded in Mexican newspapers as a Chupacabra, highlighting the lengths people sometimes go to create hoaxes.

Another caller from Nashville, Tennessee, shares a story involving a possible Chupacabra and UFO connection. The caller describes investigating a case where a local man reported strange lights and a UFO sighting near his home, along with mysterious tracks that resembled large chicken tracks. The man’s dog had strange marks that did not match known animals, and several small animals in the area were found dried up, which the man described as dehydrated. The caller, a physician using an alias, notes that the man was reluctant to allow samples to be taken, as he was waiting for investigators from MUFON (Mutual UFO Network).

The caller from Nashville elaborates on his experience investigating a case involving a Chupacabra and UFO connection. After hearing the news about a local man who had a strange encounter, the caller and a friend visited the man’s property. The man described seeing strange lights and a UFO above his property, and his dog had unusual marks not typical of known animals. The man also found dehydrated small animals. The investigation revealed strange tracks resembling large chicken tracks, and a MUFON investigator later concluded the man had seen a Chupacabra.

Art Bell appreciates the caller’s story and advises putting the man in touch with him, emphasizing that people should not be ridiculed for their experiences. The segment concludes with Art announcing the upcoming release of Scott Corrales’ book, “Chupacabras and Other Mysteries,” and a transition to open-line talk radio for the remainder of the show.

As the broadcast continues, Art Bell discusses a CNN and USA Today poll revealing that 80% of Americans believe the government is hiding information about alien contact. He also touches on President Clinton’s consideration of an apology for slavery, questioning the motivations and implications of such an apology.

Art Bell continues discussing various topics with his listeners, starting with the belief that more people trust the existence of aliens than their own government, due to the government’s history of lying. One listener calls in to argue against the idea of apologizing for slavery, feeling it irrelevant to current times. Another listener brings up a scenario inspired by zombie movies, wondering if old diseases could revive the dead, which Art humorously entertains.

A caller from Nashville, who is Black, expresses that while an apology for slavery might not directly change lives, it could symbolize a new beginning and an effort to improve the future. Art appreciates the sentiment but questions whether such an apology would genuinely change hearts or be more symbolic.

As the conversation wraps up, Art reflects on the complexities of apologies for historical wrongs and their impact on societal healing, recognizing the challenges in truly changing people’s hearts through symbolic gestures.

One caller agrees that apologizing for slavery might not be meaningful since no one alive today was directly involved. Another caller, a white man married to a Black woman, suggests that tangible reparations, such as the promised “40 acres and a mule,” might be more impactful. The conversation touches on the complexity and relevance of historical apologies.

Art shifts to discussing a technology that allows police to see through clothing to detect concealed weapons, expressing concerns about privacy and Fourth Amendment violations. He notes that while this technology might be justified for individuals on parole, its routine use by police raises significant privacy issues.

Another caller brings up the use of tracking devices on migrating birds for military experiments and the broader implications of surveillance technology. They discuss the potential for these devices to transmit video signals and track individuals, reflecting on the privacy concerns such advancements could bring.

A caller and Art Bell discuss the potential for using tracking chips to monitor people, reflecting on the implications for privacy and control. The caller notes that while the technology could solve crime and keep children safe, the idea of implanting chips raises significant concerns. Art suggests that the government could covertly implant these devices during routine operations, hinting at the dystopian possibilities of such technology.

The show transitions with music and advertisements for Coast to Coast AM’s subscription service, Coast Insider, highlighting its features and benefits. Art then explains the new time slot for the show, emphasizing the convenience of starting earlier across various time zones.

A caller from Reno, a retired Air Force firefighter, mentions that most military helicopters are black, leading to general paranoia about their presence. They also touch on Art’s chronic back problems and the challenges of managing pain while continuing daily activities.

Another caller brings up the infamous Area 51 and references a past incident involving a man named Billy Bob, who allegedly flew over the restricted area and subsequently went missing. Art confirms the mysterious nature of the case and the possible government intervention. This conversation highlights the ongoing intrigue and secrecy surrounding Area 51.

A caller from St. Louis discusses the controversial use of technology by police to detect concealed weapons, which raises concerns about privacy and Fourth Amendment rights. Art and the caller agree that such technology represents a significant invasion of privacy.

Finally, a caller from Northern California mentions hearing about babies in Bulgaria being implanted with identification chips at birth, sparking a discussion about the implications of such practices and the potential for similar technology to be used in other countries.