1997-06-24 – Roswell Case Closed – USAF Press Conference

Show: Coast To Coast AM

Air Date: June 24, 1997

Guest(s): Open Lines

Topic(s): USAF Press Conference - Roswell Case Closed

Art discusses the public’s skepticism toward the Air Force’s statements on the Roswell incident, noting the mainstream media’s tendency to ridicule UFO-related topics. He mentions Philip Corso’s book, which deserves serious attention but is often dismissed. The idea of alien intelligence commemorating the 50th anniversary of the Roswell incident is raised humorously. Art also references the media’s superficial coverage and public reactions to the Air Force’s press conference, highlighting the widespread disbelief and frustration.

Additionally, Art shares listener comments, including one from San Francisco criticizing the press conference’s professionalism and the mainstream press’s bias against UFO topics. Another listener from Little Rock finds the Air Force’s report insulting to Roswell veterans. Art reflects on a survey where 79% of respondents believe in alien life forms, indicating a significant portion of the public is open to the idea despite official dismissals.

Art recounts various listener messages, including one highlighting the absurdity of the Air Force’s explanations, and mentions upcoming interviews with Colonel Philip Corso and the author of “The Day After Roswell.” He also shares reports of recent UFO sightings over Nevada, which were discussed in the national press. Art humorously notes missing these sightings and comments on an Arizona newspaper’s controversial editorial cartoon apology.

Art continues to reflect on the skepticism surrounding the Air Force’s statements on Roswell, sharing his wish to rebroadcast the CNN news conference, which he finds both absurd and highly entertaining. He mentions the time traveler prediction of a train crash and discusses the possibility of using speech reversal techniques on the press conference recordings. Art receives calls from listeners who missed the conference but express interest in hearing it. One listener, an ex-Air Force member, finds the situation particularly amusing.

A listener from Nebraska brings up unrelated movie trivia, while another from Michigan comments on the timing of the press conference, suggesting it should be considered one of the all-time great sitcoms. The listener points out inconsistencies in the Air Force’s explanations, such as the omission of photographs in the 1994 report and the sudden introduction of the dummy explanation.

Art reflects on the press’s failure to buy the Air Force’s explanations about Roswell, emphasizing the absurdity of the six-year gap in their timeline. A caller humorously compares the Roswell incident explanation to crash dummies, while another criticizes a governor’s handling of a UFO sighting, highlighting inconsistencies and frustrations with official narratives. Art discusses the idea that the Air Force might be intentionally discrediting themselves, speculating on the potential reasons behind such actions. He mentions a reporter suggesting the colonel involved in the press conference will go down in UFO lore as part of the cover-up.

Art expresses a desire to interview Colonel Heinz and Philip Corso, believing they could provide more insightful information than mainstream media. A listener questions the need for body bags for dummies in the Air Force’s explanation, pointing out the discrepancy in dates and the implausibility of the story. Art agrees, noting how the explanation misses the target by six years, suggesting there might be an underlying agenda.

Art discusses various topics with listeners, including the delay in the Pathfinder mission and skepticism about the Air Force’s explanations for the Roswell incident. A caller from Florida mentions the implausibility of launching weather balloons during a lightning storm, highlighting the absurdity of the Air Force’s narrative. Art humorously reflects on the bizarre press conference and reiterates his desire to rebroadcast it in its entirety.

Art engages with listeners, some of whom question the official explanations and share their disbelief. He transitions to discussing the weirdness of the day’s events and brings Richard Hoagland on the line. Hoagland, who saw the news conference, remarks on its absurdity and suggests it might be an intentional attempt by the government to undermine its credibility. He speculates that the highjinks at the press conference were designed to make the public realize there is a cover-up, questioning the timing and purpose of the Pentagon’s actions.

Art and Richard Hoagland discuss the potential psychological operations behind the absurdity of the Air Force’s press conference, suggesting it might be an intentional effort to make the public believe in the reality of the Roswell incident. Hoagland theorizes that the government may be preparing the public for future events, possibly orchestrated by black operations, and comments on the strategic absurdity to control public perception. He criticizes the media’s treatment of Philip Corso, a credible military figure, and notes the importance of asking why Corso would lie if his statements weren’t true.

Art plans to interview Corso, emphasizing the significance of his statements and the need to understand his perspective fully. Hoagland points out the contrast between the buffoonery of the press conference and the serious claims made by Corso, suggesting this might be a tactic to make the public more skeptical of official narratives. They conclude that the day’s events have made the Roswell incident seem more credible.

Turning to Phoenix, Hoagland notes the presence of various high-profile individuals, including Colin Powell, General Schwarzkopf, George Bush, Dan Quayle, and Hillary Clinton, suggesting a significant focus on the city. He hints at a connection between Phoenix and NASA’s Sedona-related activities, indicating ongoing negotiations and potential developments.

Richard Hoagland discusses the possibility of hosting an enterprise seminar in Phoenix to present their research on the city’s origins and the high-level interest in the area. He mentions a significant land grant from President Ulysses S. Grant that made Phoenix equivalent to a country within the United States, akin to the District of Columbia. They are investigating why such a status was conferred and hope to present their findings soon.

The conversation shifts to the Pathfinder mission, which has experienced a one-day delay in a scheduled burn. Hoagland outlines possible outcomes, including potential complications if the burn does not proceed as planned, which could affect the July 4th landing date. He likens the anticipation to waiting in a delivery room, emphasizing the uncertainty of the situation.

Art reads a listener’s humorous suggestion that the Roswell saucer might have crashed due to hitting a government balloon, with dummies sticking to the airfoil. Another listener from Minnesota asks Hoagland to consider Cairo, Illinois, when discussing places in the United States with Egyptian names, in addition to Memphis.

Art discusses the influence of Masonic lodges at institutions like West Point and Annapolis, humorously sidestepping specific details. He then highlights an upcoming rebroadcast of his program on WABC in New York City, sharing his excitement about the exposure. Art invites listeners to comment on the Air Force news conference and notes that CNN has a streaming video of the event available online.

Art reflects on the absurdity of the press conference, emphasizing its comedic aspects while acknowledging the seriousness of the underlying issues. A listener points out a Freudian slip by the Air Force officer, suggesting it inadvertently revealed the intent to spin the facts. This leads to a broader discussion about the Air Force’s credibility and the public’s perception of a cover-up.

Art shares a story about a dramatic incident at the airport involving a man with a gun-shaped cigarette lighter, causing a significant police response. This event delayed their flight, creating a tense and memorable experience. Following this, a listener from Petaluma congratulates Art on his award and shares a story about a seaplane’s journey to Pearl Harbor and how even advanced military navigation systems include a Magellan GPS as a backup.

Another caller, from Chicago, discusses the aftermath of Richard Hoagland’s segment, mentioning wild rumors picked up on shortwave radio about potential Middle Eastern terrorist threats and the involvement of Stan Deyo in some context. Art confirms having recently hosted Stan Deyo, who accurately predicted unusual heating in the Pacific, linking it to the growing El Niño phenomenon. The conversation shifts towards mysterious connections between Egypt and pyramids, hinting at ongoing investigations and revelations.

Art discusses various topics with listeners, including a prediction about a technology company, TUT Systems, and its potential impact on internet communication. A listener speculates about the connection between TUT Systems and ancient Egyptian references, suggesting Richard Hoagland investigate further. Art then discusses his concerns about the implications of upcoming research on Egypt, predicting that he and Richard might not be welcome in Giza after revealing their findings.

Art assists a listener from Bakersfield with information about a remote viewing website and addresses a call from Minnesota about a UFO sighting, clarifying that what he saw could not have been the planet Venus. He reads a letter from another listener who saw a similar object, describing a round, glowing orb that remained stationary before moving rapidly, corroborating Art’s own sighting.

A first-time caller from Michigan asks about delays in receiving tapes from Major Ed Dames and inquires about better radio reception for Art’s show in Michigan. Art reassures him about the tapes and mentions ongoing discussions with a major station to improve coverage. Another caller from Arizona reports seeing a Minuteman II missile launched from Vandenberg, noting its visibility and eventual disintegration over Yuma.

Art continues discussing the Minuteman II missile launch from Vandenberg, noting the impressive visual effects of the contrail illuminated by the sun. He then returns to the topic of the Air Force news conference, expressing sympathy for Colonel John Ames, who had to explain away the Roswell incident with implausible claims about time compression. Art highlights the absurdity and humor of the situation while also acknowledging the sadness of the colonel’s position.

Art mentions that the Arizona Republic apologized for a controversial cartoon related to the Oklahoma City bombing, though the cartoonist did not. He shares an article about the frenzy of creating time capsules as the millennium approaches, suggesting that a recording of the Air Force press conference should be included as a representation of the era’s absurdity.

A caller from California offers a theory that the Air Force’s motive might be to make the public believe in the reality of Roswell by presenting such a ridiculous cover story. Art agrees, noting the government’s history of keeping significant secrets and suggesting that the press conference was so poorly executed that it might have been intended to make people question the official narrative and believe in the possibility of a crashed UFO.

Art and a caller discuss the absurdity of the Air Force’s explanation for the Roswell incident, focusing on the implausible concept of “time compression” used to account for the six-year discrepancy. The caller, who has a background in nuclear engineering from MIT, expresses frustration and skepticism, stating that the press conference made him more convinced something significant happened at Roswell. Art agrees, suggesting that the press conference might have been designed to create more believers.

Another caller from North Carolina joins the conversation, lamenting missing the CNN press conference and supporting Art’s request to CNN for permission to rebroadcast it. Art shares his fax number on air, hoping CNN will grant permission. The caller also mentions voicing their opinion to the Arizona Republic regarding a controversial cartoon, which led to an apology from the newspaper.

Art then shifts the discussion to the idea of creating a time capsule to represent the era, asking the caller for suggestions on what to include. The caller finds it challenging to decide, given the many significant events and items from recent years.

Art continues discussing the idea of creating a time capsule, pondering what items would represent the 1990s and be of interest to future archaeologists. A caller suggests including the recent press conference, which Art agrees would be a great addition.

A caller from California, Eric, questions why the Air Force doesn’t produce actual documents and videos from the night of the Roswell crash. Art explains that most relevant documents from 1947 are missing, which adds to the frustration and skepticism about the Air Force’s explanation. The conversation touches on the idea that the absurdity of the press conference might have been intended to create more believers in the Roswell incident.

Another caller from North Carolina supports Art’s request to CNN for permission to rebroadcast the press conference. Art shares his fax number on air, hoping CNN will grant permission. The caller mentions the recent controversy with the Arizona Republic’s cartoon and the subsequent apology from the newspaper.

Art receives a call from Fritz, who believes the display over Phoenix is just the beginning of more UFO sightings over various cities. This sentiment is echoed by another first-time caller, Rick, from San Diego, who discusses the government’s poor attempt at a cover-up and expresses frustration over missing a segment about Phoenix.

Art then shares a personal update about his wild cat, Comet, and mentions an upcoming guest, Theresa, who lived with wolves, promising it will be an interesting story.

Art informs listeners that CSPAN2 is scheduled to air the entire Roswell news conference in 15 minutes, encouraging those with access to watch it to understand its absurdity. He updates the audience about his cat, Comet, and invites them to view Comet’s photo on the studio cam.

Art continues reading listener reactions, including one questioning the necessity of ambulances for dummies, highlighting the inconsistencies in the Air Force’s story. Another caller, Judy from Northern California, guesses Richard Hoagland’s new location and asks about the Magellan device. Art explains Magellan’s functionality as a GPS device, which provides precise location information.

Floyd from Houston calls in, expressing concern over the government’s increasing oppressiveness and dishonesty, fearing a move toward a one-world government. Art sympathizes, acknowledging the frustration of being treated like fools by those in power.

Art reiterates his belief that the U.S. remains the greatest country despite its flaws and the frustration caused by elected officials. He speculates that the absurdity of the UFO press conference might be a deliberate attempt to erode the government’s credibility to eventually admit to the truth. A caller, Samantha from Arizona, discusses the Andréasson Affair and its correlations with the Phoenix sightings, expressing amazement at the connections. Art confirms interviewing Betty Andréasson and mentions recent sightings of a V-shaped UFO over Nevada.

Art encourages listeners to watch the press conference on CSPAN2, which is confirmed to be airing. A caller from Florida, George, discusses ham radio frequencies and the current state of the bands, with Art mentioning his preference for 10 meters and the anticipation of better conditions.

Juanita from Vancouver, British Columbia, calls to dispel rumors that Art’s show might be removed from the air in her area, reassuring him of his popularity and confirming the show’s time slot change.

Art discusses the Canadian content laws with a caller, reassuring them that his show remains popular in Canada despite rumors. The caller explains that Canadians generally prefer American programming, sharing an example of how the Canadian Country Music Television station had to revert to American content due to public demand.

Art updates listeners that CSPAN2 is currently airing the Roswell news conference and encourages those who can watch it to do so. He also mentions that a picture of his cat, Comet, is available on his website for those interested.

Art continues promoting signed copies of his book, “The Quickening,” and encourages listeners to call in to order. He reads positive reviews from listeners who have enjoyed the book. A former Air Force member calls in, expressing disbelief at the Roswell press conference and confirming that the Air Force’s explanation is hard to believe. Art agrees, stating that the press conference was so bad it might have been intended to make people believe in the reality of Roswell.

Another listener from Jacksonville, Florida, expresses frustration with the Air Force’s explanation and the trust placed in them for national defense. Art reads their letter, agreeing that the conference was likely intended to make people believe in the incident.

A caller from Canada offers to sing a song about cloning but is gently discouraged by Art, who suggests working on their performance voice. Another caller suggests including a pack of cigarettes in the time capsule to represent why people in the future might think everyone croaked. They also question why watching TV is called “monitoring” for Art but “couch potato” for others, which Art humorously explains.

Art ponders which interview to include in the time capsule, mentioning that he might choose the Terence McKenna interview or possibly the one with Malachi Martin, acknowledging that it’s a difficult decision due to the many good interviews he’s conducted.

Art continues discussing memorable interviews, considering Willie Nelson and others for inclusion in a time capsule. A conversation with a caller veers into personal territory about relationships with married men, which Art humorously redirects. Another caller claims to have critical UFO information but refuses to provide details or documentation, leading Art to express frustration at the wasted time.

Jim from Chicago calls in after watching the CSPAN broadcast of the Roswell press conference, noting the implausibility of the Air Force’s explanation involving numerous balloon tests and the lack of sightings or evidence of dummies with parachutes. Art sympathizes with the colonel tasked with presenting the story and plans to have David Oates analyze the conference recordings.

A caller named Camel from Alaska mentions some suspicious militia activities, suggesting potential future discussions with victims of these events. Art remains intrigued but cautious about the information.

Art continues the conversation with a caller from Alaska, who explains an incident involving attempts to force people off their property with gas cans and firearms. The caller details how the police refused to get involved despite shots being fired, illustrating the limited law enforcement presence in remote areas of Alaska.

Another caller shares information about the capybara, a large rodent in South America, and its possible connection to the chupacabra legend. They also inquire about a Minuteman missile launch from Vandenberg, which Art explains as a routine activity for various purposes, including satellite deployment.

Art opens the lines specifically for listeners who watched the CSPAN2 broadcast of the Roswell press conference, encouraging them to share their thoughts. He reads a message from Brett in Austin, Texas, about the press conference airing again on CSPAN, giving those with limited cable access another chance to watch it.

A listener named Jeff from Houston comments on the press conference, describing the Air Force’s strategy as a “dumb lie.” Another message from Nick in San Diego questions why the military needed to be informed about the crash by the rancher if it was merely a test craft and why such extensive measures were taken to secure the site, highlighting the inconsistencies in the official story.

Art takes a call from someone who saw the CSPAN broadcast of the Roswell press conference and strongly believes it was a lie. The caller asks if David Oates will do any reverse speech analysis on the press conference, to which Art confirms he will. Another caller from north of San Francisco, who doesn’t own a TV, discusses Admiral Byrd’s diaries and their connection to the Phoenix lights and underground cities.

The conversation continues with the caller describing a cult or religion that believes in highly advanced beings living underground to help humanity evolve. Art expresses skepticism about the idea of smart people choosing to live underground and recalls a science fiction story about underground dwellers serving those above ground but occasionally coming up to capture and eat them.

A first-time caller from Kentucky shares their impression of the press conference, noting the absurdity of the “time compression” explanation given for the six-year discrepancy. They express disbelief that the Air Force would expect people to accept such an explanation, agreeing with Art’s earlier comments.

Art humorously imagines a scenario where a general instructs the colonel to stick to the “time compression” story, emphasizing the challenge of convincing the public with such a flimsy explanation.

A first-time caller discusses a science fiction story where underground dwellers prey on surface dwellers, and Art reminisces about the eerie concept of a price to pay for paradise.

A caller shares plans to travel to Hong Kong for the British handover to China, expressing both historical interest and personal significance following the death of their spouse. Art reflects on the likely gradual changes in Hong Kong under Chinese rule, predicting a slow shift toward totalitarianism with limited initial protest due to the pragmatic nature of Hong Kong residents.

A caller from the Northwest humorously compares the military spokesman in the CSPAN broadcast to comedian Red Skelton and reflects on the absurdity of the press conference. Another caller expresses skepticism about ever learning the full truth about Roswell, speculating that it might take 250 years. They also request that Art share some of his popular anecdotes on his website.

Art explains the origin of the “Kingdom of Nye,” named after Nye County, where he resides. A caller from French radio mentions the recent death of Jacques Cousteau and suggests using reverse speech analysis on the Roswell press conference. They discuss the various possible reasons for the government cover-up, ranging from national security to religious disruption.

The show concludes with Art addressing a misunderstanding about his connection to San Diego State University, clarifying that he was in San Diego but did not attend the university. He wraps up the broadcast with his signature sign-off.