Art opens the show by highlighting its broad reach, stretching from Hawaii to the Caribbean, and promising a morning filled with intriguing discussions. He urges listeners to visit his website to see photographs related to an upcoming report by Peter Davenport concerning whales, dolphins, and their interactions with the US military. Art then recommends a movie, “The Trigger Effect,” which explores the societal breakdown in the event of a prolonged power outage. This leads into a discussion on abrupt climate changes, referencing a New York Times article and emphasizing the unpredictable nature of the Earth’s climate system. Art also shares a concerning story about 60 sperm whales that beached themselves in Tasmania, pondering over the causes of such events. Peter Davenport joins the program to discuss this incident, bringing his expertise as both a biologist and a ufologist. He reflects on the historical mystery of whale beachings, sharing his thoughts on a photograph that suggests a link between cetaceans and the US military.
Peter describes a photograph of a short-finned pilot whale being dropped from a U.S. Air Force UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter, which he first saw in Seattle newspapers on April 29, 1992. The image intrigued him, as it seemed to suggest a secretive military involvement with cetaceans.
Peter explains that the whales in the photograph were part of a group of about 15-16 short-finned pilot whales, each weighing around 2,000-3,000 pounds, that had beached themselves near Key West, Florida, in March 1991. Instead of being returned to the ocean as is typical in whale rescue efforts, these whales were airlifted approximately 200 miles to Miami, where they were housed, treated, and rehabilitated for about 13 months before being released 150 miles off the east coast of Florida.
Peter raises questions about the logistics and costs of such an operation, estimating it to be a million-dollar endeavor, given the daily food costs and the expenses involved in operating a Black Hawk helicopter. He finds it unusual for the government or any organization to invest so heavily in the rescue and rehabilitation of whales, only to release them later. When Peter inquired about the military’s role in this operation, he found that people were reluctant to discuss it, adding another layer of mystery to the story.
Peter Davenport discusses further the mysterious involvement of the military with beached whales. He reveals that the military used Black Hawk helicopters as part of a training exercise to transport the whales, which he finds dubious. Peter has spoken to many military helicopter pilots, who expressed disbelief at the idea of flying a helicopter 100 miles out to sea for such a purpose. He learned that not one, but three helicopters were involved in this operation, each carrying up to 16 whales 150 miles out to sea, and then returning. The logistics and costs of this operation, he notes, are enormous.
Peter also raises questions about the nature of the military’s involvement in this whale rescue operation. He points out the impracticality of using military equipment for a civilian operation, speculating that the military might have been conducting some secretive activities with the whales during the 13 months of their rehabilitation. He mentions the intelligence of these whales and their potential use in military operations, noting that the Navy uses short-finned pilot whales for various purposes.
Art Bell interjects to ask why the military would invest so much in holding onto these whales for 13 months only to release them far out at sea. The conversation then shifts to the physical condition of the whales. Peter reveals that when these whales were found beached near Key West in March 1991, they were grossly disfigured, with their tails bent at 90-degree angles. This detail adds to the mystery of the whole situation, as such disfigurement is unusual and would typically lead to the euthanization of the animals if they cannot be successfully returned to the ocean.
Peter Davenport discusses the enigmatic case of the bent-tailed whales and the military’s involvement. He is puzzled by the military’s decision to spend a significant amount of money to rescue, rehabilitate, and then transport these whales using Black Hawk helicopters. Peter estimates that this operation could have cost American taxpayers between a quarter and a half a million dollars.
Peter speculates that the military might have been concerned about the whales re-beaching themselves, hence the decision to release them 150 miles offshore. However, he finds it hard to believe that the military would engage in such an expensive and logistically complex operation without a very serious reason. He points out the oddity of not euthanizing the whales, which had bent tails, a condition he finds particularly mystifying.
Seeking answers, Peter consulted marine mammal specialists about the whales’ bent tails but did not find a satisfactory explanation. He draws a parallel between the deformation of the whales’ tails and the deformation seen in crop circles, which are often attributed to microwave radiation. This similarity leads him to ponder if there might be a connection between the two phenomena, suggesting a possible use of microwave radiation in both cases.
Peter Davenport continues discussing the peculiar case of the beached whales and delves into broader topics about cetacean intelligence and potential alien interest. He suggests that humans are not the only intelligent organisms on Earth, noting that cetaceans like dolphins may be equally, if not more, intelligent. Peter points out that bottlenose dolphins have larger brains than humans and a higher brain mass to body mass ratio. He also mentions that a significant portion of their brain is dedicated to the neocortex, which is responsible for higher thought processes.
Peter then speculates on the possibility that extraterrestrial beings might be more interested in cetaceans than humans due to their high intelligence and peaceful nature, as they do not engage in warfare or use weapons. This idea leads him to ponder if cetaceans might be a special marker species on Earth that would attract extraterrestrial attention.
Further exploring the phenomenon of whale beaching, Peter mentions that the reasons for this behavior remain largely unexplained, with theories ranging from biological issues like parasites to disruptions caused by submarine sonar. However, none of these theories have been conclusively proven. Peter suggests a tentative theory that there might be some kind of interaction happening in the marine environment that is causing these beachings, but this remains speculative.
Davenport mentions scholarly works on the presence of UFOs in the marine environment, suggesting a potential link to the military’s intense interest in the beached whales. Peter invites listeners to view the photographs on the show’s website and ponder their significance, hinting at a deeper, possibly profound, implication that might not be immediately apparent.
Art Bell then discusses how listeners can respond or donate to support Peter’s work in researching UFOs and related phenomena. He provides contact information for the National UFO Reporting Center and encourages listeners to visit his website to view the photograph of a Black Hawk helicopter releasing a whale.
Art shifts the topic to climate change, referencing a New York Times article that highlights the potential for rapid and drastic changes in climate patterns. He emphasizes the unpredictability of climate change and its potential consequences, drawing a parallel to the movie “The Trigger Effect,” which he recommends for its portrayal of societal collapse following a power outage.
Art Bell shifts the discussion to various topics, including extreme weather events and their potential connection to climate change. He refers to the east and west coasts of the United States experiencing severe weather conditions and reiterates his belief in the changing climate, supported by the evidence he sees.
Returning to the topic of the beached sperm whales in Tasmania, Art reminds listeners of the military’s unusual involvement in the rescue and release of these whales. He points out the intriguing photographs on his website that show military Blackhawk helicopters dumping the whales 150 miles out to sea after keeping them for 13 months. Art suggests that listeners view these photographs and contemplate the military’s motives for such an operation.
The show then transitions to the topic of alien abductions. Art discusses the previous night’s program, which included discussions on alien implants and abduction experiences. He introduces Pamela, a guest who does not consider herself a victim but rather an experiencer of alien encounters. Pamela shares her experiences, starting with her first conscious contact about five years ago and recalling childhood incidents, such as discovering scoop marks on her legs, which she later connects to her experiences.
Pamela also talks about the repercussions of going public with her experiences, including losing her job. She mentions the prejudice she faced due to her claims about alien encounters and discusses her plans to write a book about her experiences.
In this segment of “Coast to Coast AM,” the discussion with Pamela, who describes herself as an experiencer of alien encounters rather than a victim, continues. She talks about the challenges of sharing her profound experiences with others, facing ridicule and discrimination, including losing her job after going public with her story. Pamela believes that disclosure of alien encounters is imminent and feels the urgency to share this information with the public.
Pamela recounts how she first noticed physical marks on her body as a child, which she later connected to her experiences. She discusses her interaction with other individuals who have had similar experiences, including those who have been involved in the abduction phenomenon. Pamela emphasizes that her experiences involve both physical and emotional aspects, including a sexual component, which she finds is often a taboo subject in society.
She shares a particularly striking experience of waking up aboard a spacecraft and seeing what she believes were her hybrid daughters, a product of her encounters with extraterrestrial beings. Pamela explains that her experiences included encounters with both grey aliens, which she describes as asexual, and a reptilian entity, with whom she had a more physical interaction.
Pamela also mentions undergoing regression therapy with Barbara Lamb, a hypnotic regression therapist, to explore her experiences further. During these sessions, she focused on her connection with the reptilian species, seeking to understand her experiences better.
Pamela discusses the reactions she received after sharing her story of a sexual relationship with a reptilian entity. While some responses were ridiculing and profane, Pamela notes that those who had genuine experiences were eloquent and compassionate in their communication with her. She also touches upon the challenges of being discriminated against for her experiences, including the impact on her professional life.
Pamela explains that her encounters were not only physical but also had an emotional and tantric aspect, differing significantly from human interactions. She describes the reptilian entity as skilled and emotionally connected during the encounter. Pamela also addresses the skepticism and ridicule she faces, especially from men who find her claims about reptilian entities difficult to accept.
Art Bell then guides the conversation towards the depiction of Pamela’s reptilian encounter. A drawing of the entity, based on Pamela’s description, is available on the show’s website. Pamela clarifies that while the drawing is close to her description, there are some differences, and she hopes to provide a more accurate depiction in her upcoming book.
During a regression session with Barbara Lamb, a hypnotic regression therapist, Pamela uncovers a revelation about her experiences. She recalls being a reptilian entity hundreds of thousands of years ago, suggesting a deep connection to her current encounters. This experience leads her to believe in the possibility of past lives and the existence of different realities.
The discussion delves into the details of the reptilian entity’s appearance, with Pamela describing it as having a soft, human-like touch, contrasting with the scaly depiction in the drawing. She speculates about the true nature of these entities and the possibility that their appearances might vary significantly.
Pamela continues to discuss her extraordinary experiences with a reptilian entity. She reflects on the responses she received after sharing her story, noting that those who ridiculed her often lacked eloquence, while those who had genuine experiences expressed themselves articulately and compassionately. Pamela emphasizes the deep emotional and spiritual connection she felt with the reptilian being, which she describes as transcending physical appearance.
Art Bell and Pamela delve into the details of the reptilian’s appearance, comparing its skin texture to a cobblestone road and its mouth to that of an alligator. Pamela recalls a moment in a pet shop where she saw a bearded dragon, triggering a memory of her experience with the reptilian entity.
Pamela describes the emotional depth of her interaction with the entity, suggesting a connection that spans eons. She shares insights from a regression session where she saw herself as a male reptilian warrior in a past life, experiencing a deep sense of love and impending doom with fellow warriors. This past life experience, she believes, connects her to the current experiences with the reptilian being in this lifetime.
The conversation touches upon the nature of telepathic communication and the idea of encountering aspects of oneself through these experiences. Pamela speculates that many individuals reincarnated from that past life as reptilian warriors are now experiencing similar events on Earth, possibly as a form of prophetic vision.
Pamela further delves into her experiences with the reptilian entity. She stresses the importance of overcoming fear to understand and control these encounters. Pamela describes her first experience with the reptilian as initially appearing to be a sexual encounter with a handsome blond man, which shockingly transformed into a reptilian being. This leads to a discussion about the possibility of shapeshifting abilities among extraterrestrial beings, suggesting that the grays could also be reptilians capable of altering their appearance.
Pamela, who identifies as an adept astral projector and lucid dreamer, explains that her encounters with the reptilian felt different from her astral projection experiences. These encounters were more physical and real, occurring after waking up from sleep.
Art Bell and Pamela also discuss the potential for other women to have encounters with shapeshifting beings. Pamela speculates that the military might be involved in cloning and could be monitoring people like her who have had alien encounters. She shares a peculiar incident where she encountered two men dressed in black at a wedding, leading her to suspect they were the so-called “Men in Black,” known in UFO lore for their involvement in alien encounter cases.
Pamela suggests that these men might have been observing or recording her experiences with the reptilian entity. This leads to a broader discussion about military abductions and surveillance, especially for individuals who have gone public with their alien encounters.
Pamela touches on the potential for military abductions and mind control, suggesting that some abduction experiences might be artificially implanted to cover up covert operations. Pamela shares her belief that these tactics are part of a larger scheme to discredit those who come forward with genuine abduction experiences.
Pamela recounts a particularly strange incident where she encountered two men at a wedding who she suspected were the “Men in Black.” These individuals, often mentioned in UFO lore, are believed to be involved in monitoring and suppressing information about extraterrestrial encounters. Pamela speculates that these men could have been observing or recording her interactions with the reptilian entity.
The conversation shifts to the emotional and spiritual aspects of Pamela’s experiences. She describes her encounters with the reptilian as emotionally profound, transcending physical appearances, and involving a deep telepathic connection. Pamela also reflects on the societal reactions to her story, noting that the idea of extraterrestrial encounters challenges conventional beliefs and can evoke strong reactions.
Art Bell and Pamela discuss the complexities of defining her experiences in human terms, with Pamela emphasizing the evolved nature of the women she has met who have had similar encounters. She also highlights the difficulty men have in integrating these experiences, often due to their inability to handle the loss of control.
Pamela further discusses her experiences with the reptilian entity. She describes additional encounters with the reptilian, noting that the first time she encountered him as a human-like being before he shapeshifted. Pamela speculates that these experiences were meant to help her overcome fear and step into an empowered position.
She reflects on the societal difficulty, especially for men, to understand and accept her experiences with a creature so different from humans. Pamela emphasizes that her encounters are more about overcoming prejudices and embracing the unknown. She shares that many women who called into the last program were more receptive to her story than men, highlighting women’s intuitive nature.
Pamela then touches on her plans to write a book about her experiences and the importance of controlling her narrative, especially in the media. She expresses gratitude to Art Bell for providing a platform to share her story without editing or sensationalizing.
Further, Pamela discusses the potential dangers and harassment faced by individuals who publicly share their alien encounters. She believes that the UFO cover-up is one of the most profound in history, with significant religious, economic, and political ramifications. Pamela shares a story of another woman who has been terrorized by the military for going public with her alien abduction experiences, emphasizing the real harassment that occurs for those who speak out.
Pamela describes waking up one morning feeling as though she had been interrogated and physically harmed, suspecting involvement by the military. Pamela recalls feeling drugged, with physical evidence of mistreatment, but only sketchy memories of the event.
Art Bell and Pamela explore the possibility of her being a victim of mind control. They discuss the extent of government mind control programs like MKUltra, suggesting that such programs have been ongoing since World War II and are funded by tax dollars. Pamela shares her concerns about her phone being tapped due to her research and discussions on the topic.
Pamela reflects on the challenges of sharing her experiences, especially the skepticism and disbelief she encounters. She mentions receiving letters from women, particularly from conservative regions, who are grateful for her openness but fear the consequences of sharing their own experiences.
The conversation shifts to Pamela’s personal life, discussing how her experiences have impacted her relationships with men. She notes the difficulty men have in accepting her experiences, leading to challenges in maintaining relationships. Pamela expresses her need for a partner who is as strong, truthful, and open-minded as she is.
Art Bell brings up another experiencer, Jim Sparks, who has had interactions with reptilian entities. Sparks, who will be featured in Linda Moulton Howe’s book, shared an experience where he boldly asked extraterrestrial beings to reveal their true form, leading them to shapeshift into reptilians. Pamela finds Sparks’ story empowering and hopes to meet him one day.
Pamela describes how, in subsequent encounters after the initial shapeshifting experience, the reptilian entity appeared directly in his true form. Pamela speculates that these experiences were designed to help her transition from fear to empowerment.
She mentions waking up one morning feeling drugged and physically harmed, with sketchy memories of an interrogation, possibly by the military. Pamela debates whether these could be signs of mind control, but she feels confident in her discernment of the experiences.
Pamela also talks about the impact of going public with her experiences, including receiving support and donations from listeners, although not enough to fund her initial project. She shares her plans to sell cassettes of her original songs, some of which are about her abduction experiences, and offers them at a discounted rate to those who had previously sent her a dollar.
During the conversation, Art Bell and Pamela discuss the possibility of other men having similar experiences with extraterrestrial entities, referencing another experiencer named Jim Sparks. Sparks claimed to have seen extraterrestrial beings shapeshift into reptilians, supporting Pamela’s experiences.
Pamela provides an address for listeners to contact her or purchase her music cassettes. She shares her aspiration to find a partner who is as open-minded and centered as she is and discusses the challenges she faces in her dating life due to her extraordinary experiences.
Pamela continues discussing her encounters with the reptilian entity. She describes feeling his presence many times and shares that Barbara Lam, who regressed her, had a conscious encounter with a reptilian that came into her living room and shook her hand. This story adds credibility to Pamela’s experiences, as Barbara Lam is respected in the field of extraterrestrial research.
Pamela responds to a caller’s question about the nature of her encounters, explaining that they were sensual, organic, and aggressive. She also touches on the concept of tantric experiences, suggesting that presenting oneself as an equal and not a victim is key to controlling interactions with extraterrestrial beings. Pamela emphasizes the importance of seeing these beings through loving eyes and connecting with them on an equal footing.
The conversation also delves into the spiritual aspect of Pamela’s experiences, with her describing them as orgasmic and blissful states of spiritual and bodily connection. She counters the notion that these encounters could be construed as demonic, stating her belief that good and evil reside in the hearts of humans, not in external entities like the devil or Satan.
Callers to the show express a mix of curiosity, support, and skepticism about Pamela’s experiences. One caller from Tennessee reflects on the possibility that the spiritual connection Pamela felt might have been one-sided. Pamela responds by discussing the subjective nature of love and emotional experiences, emphasizing that one can only truly know their own feelings.
A caller inquires about the nature of her encounters, specifically asking about the creature’s appearance and actions. Pamela describes the entity as having a crocodile-like mouth but is unsure about the presence of a tongue. She recalls the reptilian leaning down by her neck but not engaging in any biting or hickey-like behavior.
The conversation shifts to callers sharing their thoughts and experiences. One caller from South Carolina mentions a local newspaper story about a woman who saw a reptilian creature enter her house. Another caller expresses skepticism but also acknowledges the possibility of such experiences.
Pamela emphasizes the importance of her sharing these experiences, as it encourages others to come forward and potentially find answers together. She reveals that she has received hundreds of letters and emails from both men and women who have had similar encounters, highlighting the widespread nature of these experiences.
Art Bell and Pamela discuss the challenge of conveying such extraordinary experiences to others, especially given the societal prejudices and preconceptions about extraterrestrial encounters. A caller from Utah shares his perspective, drawing parallels between Pamela’s reflections and his own experiences in India and Asia. He suggests that physical appearance is not the crucial aspect of these encounters, but rather the emotional and spiritual connections.
Pamela also talks about her book project, mentioning that she has completed a proposal and the first few chapters, which are now with an agent in New York. She hopes to receive an advance to finish the book soon.
Pamela describes how she did not engage in kissing with the entity and only recalls it leaning down by her neck, but not biting or giving a “reptilian hickey.” A caller from South Carolina shares a local newspaper story about a woman who saw a reptilian creature in her house, adding another account to the growing number of reptilian sightings.
Pamela emphasizes the importance of discussing these experiences openly, as she believes the answers are out there and can be found if people are brave enough to come forward. She has received hundreds of letters from both men and women sharing similar encounters.
The discussion also touches on the physical aspects of her experiences with the reptilian. Pamela explains that the interactions were sensual, organic, and aggressive, but not necessarily dominant or submissive. She believes that presenting oneself as an equal is key to controlling these interactions.
A caller questions whether Pamela’s experiences could be attributed to mind control by the military, posing as reptilian creatures. Pamela entertains this theory but feels that it’s more complex, potentially involving genetic experimentation and cloning by the military.
As the episode progresses, callers continue to share their thoughts, questions, and experiences. One caller tries to disguise their voice for privacy, but Art Bell encourages openness. Another caller shares a personal story of witnessing “alien extravaganzas” throughout their life, indicating that such experiences are not isolated to Pamela.
Pamela addresses a caller’s question about whether her encounters with the reptilian being occurred on the astral plane or in physical reality. Pamela explains that while she has experienced astral projection, her interactions with the reptilian were physical and occurred in her bedroom. She distinguishes these encounters from her astral experiences by the physical symptoms she woke up with, including bruises and soreness, particularly after meeting her four hybrid daughters.
Another caller inquires about the possibility of Pamela having borne children for the reptilian entity. She cautiously approaches this topic, revealing that she suspects she may have experienced a false pregnancy the previous November. Pamela reflects on her past, acknowledging that she had other false pregnancies years ago, which she initially dismissed due to drug use at the time. She clarifies that she no longer uses drugs and is more conscious and aware of her experiences.
Throughout the conversation, Pamela emphasizes the importance of staying open-minded and not judging or criticizing others’ experiences. She highlights the challenges of researching and understanding interactions with interdimensional beings, noting the complexity and multidimensionality of such encounters.
Pamela confirms that the encounters occurred in her physical bedroom and not on the astral plane. Pamela distinguishes these encounters from her astral projection experiences by noting the physical symptoms she experienced, including bruises and soreness, especially after meeting her four hybrid daughters.
Pamela also addresses a caller’s question about false pregnancies. She reveals that she had a false pregnancy and questioned it during a session, suggesting it might be related to her encounters. This revelation leads to a discussion about the possibility of reproduction between different species of beings, including humans and extraterrestrials.
The conversation turns to the societal and cultural aspects of these experiences. Pamela reflects on how sensuality and sexuality are celebrated or repressed in different societies and how this affects perceptions of extraterrestrial encounters. She also comments on the political climate at the time, specifically mentioning the Monica Lewinsky scandal and its impact on President Clinton.
Art Bell and Pamela discuss the challenges of bringing these topics to mainstream media, with Pamela expressing frustration about the lack of platforms willing to discuss her experiences openly. A caller from Atlanta shares his own revelations about being abducted, adding to the diverse experiences shared by the show’s listeners.
Pamela addresses a caller’s question about the physicality of her experiences with the reptilian entity. She clarifies that while she did not engage in kissing with the entity, she experienced it leaning close to her neck. She also mentions not recalling a tongue, despite the reptilian’s crocodile-like mouth.
A caller from California shares his own encounter with beings that morphed from small silver balls into taller, reptilian-like creatures with skin resembling a woven suit. Pamela acknowledges the diversity of extraterrestrial encounters and encourages people to share their experiences to piece together the broader puzzle.
Pamela provides her email address (galactic_diva@tellus.org) and physical address for listeners to contact her or share their experiences. She emphasizes the importance of open discussion and research in understanding these complex phenomena.
A caller expresses concern about the potential dangers of astral projection, recounting a frightening encounter with a tyrannosaurus rex-like creature. Pamela suggests that physical reality is tenuous and that individuals might encounter various beings in alternate or parallel realities during out-of-body experiences.
Art Bell and Pamela discuss the need for concrete evidence to validate such encounters. Pamela notes the challenges in providing physical proof, as the experiences often transcend conventional understanding. She references the importance of research into physical evidence, such as implants, in the field of extraterrestrial encounters.
Pamela responds to a question about physical proof of her experiences, particularly regarding a false pregnancy she had. She explains that she intended to get a sonogram, but after an experience the night before, she hemorrhaged for eight days, preventing her from obtaining any physical evidence.
A caller from California shares his experience of seeing a video of a dark-haired female with a reptilian creature, leading to a discussion about whether this could be related to Pamela’s experiences. Pamela clarifies that the video in question is not hers, but she does mention making videos about her regression sessions and hybrids.
The conversation touches on various topics, including the possibility of extraterrestrial intervention in human evolution, the biblical story of Adam and Eve, and the concept of Nephilim. Pamela shares her own theories about these topics, suggesting that extraterrestrial beings may have interbred with early humans and that biblical history should be reexamined in this context.
A caller questions what gives extraterrestrial entities the right to interfere in human lives. Pamela responds to the caller, who expresses concerns about her husband suspecting an affair due to unusual events in her life. She suggests that the caller might need to explore these experiences further to understand them better.
Another caller inquires whether Pamela’s experiences could be connected to Jim Morrison’s statement about being the “Lizard King.” Pamela muses on the idea of reincarnation and the complex nature of human experiences, suggesting that everyone might arrive on Earth with some confusion and gradually awaken to their true selves.
The conversation also touches on philosophical perspectives, with a caller from Minnesota discussing Eastern philosophies and the notion that life is an illusion. This leads to a broader reflection on the cosmic nature of existence and the interconnectedness of all beings.
Art Bell and Pamela conclude the show with expressions of gratitude and mutual respect. Pamela thanks Art for the opportunity to share her views and experiences, highlighting the importance of fearless research in understanding the mysterious aspects of life.