1998-02-20 – Prof. David Jacobs – Alien Abductions, The Threat

Show: Coast To Coast AM

Air Date: February 20, 1998

Guest(s): Prof. David Jacobs

Topic(s): Alien Abductions, The Threat

On this episode of “Coast to Coast AM” hosted by Art Bell, the focus was on an intriguing discussion with Professor David M. Jacobs from Temple University. Professor Jacobs, a history lecturer and a prominent figure in UFO research, shared insights from his book “The Threat,” which delves into the unsettling agenda of aliens and their plans for humanity. He expressed a newfound fear and concern over the UFO phenomenon, emphasizing the seriousness of the abduction experiences and the potential future implications for humanity. According to Jacobs, the aliens’ presence signifies a threatening integration into Earth, potentially leading to a future where human autonomy and societal norms are drastically altered. He speculated on the nature of a society under alien influence, characterized by a lack of individualism, a hierarchical structure, and a reliance on telepathy, which starkly contrasts with human values and ideals. Jacobs raised concerns about the fate of those not involved in abductions, suggesting a grim outlook for non-abductees in this new world order.

Professor David M. Jacobs delves deeper into the hierarchical structure envisioned in a society influenced by aliens. He posits a “pecking order” with insect-like aliens at the top, followed by grey aliens, hybrids, abductees, and finally, non-abductees. Jacobs emphasizes that this new societal order would prioritize collective goals over individual freedoms, presenting a stark contrast to American values and potentially leading to widespread discontent. He expresses concern over the vague fate of non-abductees, suggesting they might be considered expendable or merely used for breeding, highlighting the urgency in understanding their future role.

Jacobs, not typically prone to alarmism, admits his own disbelief at the conclusions drawn from his extensive research into over 700 abduction cases. His methodical approach to each case, involving careful interviewing and hypnosis sessions, underscores the depth of his findings. Despite the fantastical nature of his assertions, Jacobs insists on following where the evidence leads, even if it paints a grim picture of potential disaster.

He further speculates on the formidable neurological and physiological control aliens could exert over humans, suggesting that both abductees and non-abductees could be easily subdued. This control could render any form of resistance futile, even for a population as traditionally individualistic and combative as Americans. Jacobs expresses a sliver of hope that some elements within the government are aware of and actively researching the alien phenomenon, despite his skepticism towards a significant government conspiracy or comprehensive understanding of the issue.

Jacobs shared his wish for a super-secret government study on aliens, despite his skepticism about the government’s awareness and involvement. He highlighted the lack of massive hypnotic sessions for abductees to gather information, which he sees as a missed opportunity for understanding the alien phenomenon. Jacobs also mused on the dangers his research might pose to his safety, given the controversial nature of his findings, but noted a lack of government interference in his work since 1966.

The discussion turned to the academic reception of Jacobs’ work, “The Threat,” and the broader academic community’s skepticism towards UFO research. Jacobs criticized the quick dismissal of abduction accounts by academics, who often resort to psychological explanations without fully understanding the complexity of abduction experiences. He argued that researchers have thoroughly considered and rejected these conventional explanations, asserting the need for careful attention to the evidence presented in abduction research.

As the show progressed, Art announced the availability of Jacobs’ book for purchase, emphasizing its importance and the seriousness with which the subject should be taken. The episode transitioned to a Q&A segment with listeners, beginning with a caller from Pittsburgh inquiring about the awareness of hybrids (part alien, part human beings) regarding their origins. Jacobs explained the evolving understanding of hybrid creation, moving away from earlier simplistic views to a more complex realization of the hybridization process.

Professor David M. Jacobs elaborates on the complex process of creating hybrids, highlighting a gradual refinement that produces beings who are essentially human in appearance and function, yet aware of their unique origins and capabilities. This process, according to Jacobs, involves multiple generations of hybrids, each more human-like than the last, leading to what he terms “late-stage hybrids.” These beings possess a blend of human and alien traits, with varying degrees of acceptance and ambition regarding their place in human society. The discussion revealed a spectrum of psychological responses among hybrids, from a desire to assimilate and live peacefully among humans to aspirations of dominance.

The conversation then touched on the Heavens Gate suicides, with Art Bell inquiring about any potential connections to the alien phenomenon. Jacobs expressed skepticism about a direct link but acknowledged the pervasive influence of alien culture and imagery in society, suggesting it could lead to a wide range of responses, including extreme actions influenced by speculative beliefs rather than concrete knowledge.

A caller from Philadelphia questioned the uniformity of alien species reported across different cultures and the seemingly negative intentions ascribed to them, contrasting with more positive abduction narratives that speak of aliens imparting wisdom or warnings to humanity. Jacobs responded by emphasizing the absence of any tangible, beneficial knowledge or advancements derived from alien encounters, challenging the notion that these experiences have yielded valuable insights for humanity.

Professor David M. Jacobs and Art Bell discuss the portrayal of alien abductions in media, specifically addressing a UPN television show about an abduction at Clearlake. Jacobs criticizes the show for its dramatization and lack of accuracy in depicting the subtleties of the actual abduction phenomenon. He explains that real abductions are much more controlled and less chaotic than portrayed on television, emphasizing the aliens’ ability to manage the environment to prevent escape or resistance from the abductees.

Jacobs then reflects on the broader impact of alien-themed entertainment and merchandise, suggesting that such portrayals contribute to a societal conditioning process, albeit driven largely by commercial interests. He believes the public’s fascination with UFOs and extraterrestrials stems from an inherent interest in life beyond Earth and a subconscious recognition of the phenomenon’s potential reality. Jacobs criticizes certain media portrayals for being irresponsible, arguing for a more serious and scientific examination of the abduction phenomenon and its implications for humanity.

Addressing the possibility of a secret government initiative to combat the alien threat, Jacobs expresses skepticism about the government’s involvement and readiness to address the issue. He underscores the clandestine nature of abductions and the challenge of identifying and helping abductees, highlighting the need for a concerted effort to understand and potentially stop the phenomenon. Jacobs concludes with personal reflections on the importance of living without fear despite the potential reality of alien interventions, emphasizing happiness and the value of personal life in the face of uncertainty.

For the first time in his extensive career studying UFO phenomena, Jacobs admits to feeling genuine fear. The realization of the implications of his findings has led him to a place of discomfort and unease, a significant shift from his previously analytical approach to the subject. Despite this fear, Jacobs expresses a commitment to continue his work, driven by a sense of responsibility to help those who have experienced abductions and have nowhere else to turn for understanding and support.

The episode wraps up with a listener from Colorado asking for advice on discussing the abduction phenomenon with friends and family without seeming irrational. Jacobs acknowledges the challenge of navigating such conversations, suggesting there’s no one-size-fits-all strategy due to the varied levels of receptiveness among individuals. He also addresses a question about the timeline for the “event” or culmination of the alien agenda, noting that predictions range from the imminent to several decades away, but ultimately expressing his preference for humanity to be left in peace.

Jacobs concludes with an optimistic note on human resilience and capability, affirming his belief in humanity’s inherent goodness and potential to positively shape its destiny, independent of extraterrestrial interference. He reflects briefly on the UFO community’s reaction to his work, expecting a mixed response but hoping for eventual acceptance, similar to the reception of his earlier research.