Art plays a segment featuring Loreena McKennitt, whose music captivates the audience. Following this, he introduces his guest, Brad Steiger, an author of numerous books, who delves into subjects like guardian angels and spirit guides. Their conversation also touches on the concept of “alien rapture,” a novel based on experiences and stories from a former military man involved in black projects. Steiger explains how this fictional account was created to bypass restrictions on discussing classified work.
Brad talks about his past works, including a column titled “A Walk on the Weird Side” and another column published in various international newspapers. They dive into Brad’s book on children’s near-death experiences (NDEs), a subject close to Brad’s heart due to his own NDE at age 11. Brad explains how these experiences significantly impact lives, a belief reinforced by both personal accounts and those of Native American friends. He mentions that recounting these experiences repeatedly helps in recalling more details. Art brings up an upcoming broadcast with Hopi elders, who believe a prophecy will manifest in July, prompting their decision to go public. The conversation shifts to prophecies and whether awareness of them can mitigate their impacts. Brad shares a metaphor about winter preparation, suggesting that some events are inevitable despite positive thinking. They also discuss the potential for miraculous interventions and the wisdom of Native American shamans, noting Brad’s wife Sherry’s deep involvement with Hopi elders.
Brad shares insights from Native American shamans, likening the Earth to a dog that occasionally shakes off fleas, symbolizing natural disasters like volcanism and earthquakes. They discuss the sudden mainstream acknowledgment of profound weather changes, a topic Brad has been vocal about for years. Art asks Brad about his writings on ESP, precognition, and the mysterious powers of the mind. Brad believes that many people are now experiencing an inner sense of truth about these phenomena, fulfilling ancient prophecies of awakening and visions.
The conversation touches on the inevitability of certain events, regardless of positive thinking. Brad emphasizes living a noble and spiritual life to be prepared for any eventuality. Art brings up Brad’s controversial book, “Sex and the Supernatural,” which explores the link between sexual energy and the paranormal, and the trouble it caused Brad when it was published in the 1960s. Despite the backlash, the book received support from notable figures like Norman Mailer. They briefly discuss recent volcanic activity and its implications.
Art and Brad reflect on how previously fringe topics, like sexual encounters aboard UFOs, have become more accepted over time. Brad recalls the hostility he faced when first writing about such subjects.
Art and Brad delve into more intriguing topics on “Coast To Coast AM.” Brad recounts stories of young women who, after witnessing UFOs, reported being violated in their rooms. Despite initial skepticism, Brad insists these experiences were genuine, backed by credible individuals. He suggests a unified theory connecting various phenomena, a view that has made him difficult to categorize. Brad’s writing spans a wide array of subjects, yet he sees them all as chapters of a larger, interconnected phenomenon.
They discuss the HBO series, highlighting its accuracy and technical details. Art shares an anecdote about a Las Vegas philanthropist interested in funding studies on life after death and ufology. Both agree on the idea of a single, elusive source behind these mysteries. They ponder the potential outcome of a modern-day Brookings Report, which would likely still conclude that humanity is unprepared to handle the truth about our origins or extraterrestrial life.
Brad explains that his diverse topics, including guardian angels and Native American medicine, are all part of a spiritual exploration. When asked about the nature of guardian angels, Brad suggests that these entities, whether seen as angels or otherworldly beings, are here to help and guide us.
Brad explains that the terms “guardian angels” and “spirit guides” have different connotations in different traditions, but he groups them together, emphasizing that we should not be presumptuous about making strict separations. He shares that these guides provide benevolent assistance from the unseen world and should not be worshipped or called upon for trivial matters. Brad recounts his own experiences with entities that were as solid as any physical being, stressing that these encounters cannot be controlled.
Art asks about the conversations in Brad’s household, particularly given that his wife Sherry is a Baptist minister. Brad notes that Sherry is firm about including cautions in his writings, ensuring they align with biblical admonitions, and highlighting similar warnings found in all cultures. They joke about the idea of a spirit demanding something in return, likening it to a “used car dealer” wanting one’s soul.
Art introduces the idea from Matthew Alper’s book, “The God Part of the Brain,” which suggests that the brain developed a “god module” as an evolutionary defense mechanism against the fear of death. Brad finds this fascinating and sees it as evidence of a divine intelligence programming us to have this receptor. They discuss the possibility of discovering more about our true nature and purpose as we continue to explore these ideas. Brad emphasizes the importance of staying open, loving, and sharing research without greed.
Art and Brad explore the origins and nature of guardian angels and spirit guides. Brad wrestles with whether these entities come from an external source or are products of the “god spot” in the brain. He shares his belief in both external manifestations and internal guidance, citing personal experiences and letters from others who have had similar encounters. Brad describes these entities as potentially paraphysical and multidimensional, able to interact with our world and then leave it quickly.
Art notes that some of Brad’s earlier works on UFOs suggest a negative outlook on these entities. Brad acknowledges this, explaining that one’s perception can influence their experiences, with people often encountering phenomena in forms they expect or fear. He posits that an intelligence might be using our archetypes to communicate.
Brad recalls a significant childhood encounter when he was five years old. He saw an entity looking into his kitchen window, an experience that left a lasting impression on him. Art and Brad agree that personal experiences are powerful and undeniable, transforming skepticism into belief.
Art then shares his own experience of seeing a large triangular UFO, emphasizing that such encounters are unforgettable and convincing. As Brad continues his story, he describes living in a remote area in Iowa and hearing unexpected footsteps and noises outside his window, a rare occurrence that added to the eeriness of his experience.
Brad recounts a vivid childhood encounter that shaped his life’s path. Living in an L-shaped farmhouse, he often stayed up late, eavesdropping on his parents in the kitchen. One night, he saw what he initially thought was a little man with a big hat peering into the window. As the figure turned, Brad realized it was an entity with large, cat-like eyes that grew until they filled his vision. The next thing he knew, it was morning. When he told his parents he had seen an elf, they attributed it to his imagination, but the experience drove him to explore the paranormal.
Years later, in Sedona, Brad encountered a sculpture that resembled the entity he had seen as a child. The artist, commissioned by a woman from California, had no prior knowledge of Brad’s experience. Remarkably, when Brad met the woman, she revealed she had seen the same entity at the same time, despite being in a neighboring town in Iowa. This shared experience deeply influenced both their lives.
Art and Brad discuss the purpose of such encounters, with Brad acknowledging various theories but remaining uncertain. He recounts his near-death experience at age 11, which further solidified his belief that we are not alone in the universe. Brad insists these entities are external and not products of the mind.
Brad expresses hope that one day there will be a breakthrough, allowing humanity to establish contact with these beings. He shares his early ambition to become a Lutheran minister, a path he ultimately abandoned in favor of seeking proof of the paranormal.
Brad and Art delve into Brad’s journey from aspiring minister to seeker of proof. Brad explains that his desire to prove spiritual truths led him away from the pulpit and into a life dedicated to exploring and presenting these ideas through books and radio shows. He acknowledges that while he cannot prove these truths to others, he hopes to inspire and provoke individuals to seek their own spiritual experiences.
Art reads a fax from a listener who identifies as a clinical depressive and a Cherokee, expressing surprise at Brad’s seemingly pessimistic outlook. The listener describes their pragmatic optimism, sustaining themselves through hope despite chaos and violence. Brad responds, affirming his belief in the indomitable human spirit and explaining that his optimism is tempered by pragmatism. He maintains that while he believes in a separate, spiritual reality, he also recognizes the need to engage with the consensual reality we all share.
Brad and Art discuss the balance between optimism and realism, acknowledging that bad things happen but emphasizing the importance of maintaining hope and striving for a balance. Brad describes himself as a pragmatic optimist, believing that while challenges and disasters are inevitable, the human spirit’s resilience will prevail.
Art shares his concern that various sources, including religious leaders, remote viewers, and prophets, all seem to predict troubling times ahead.
Brad emphasizes the importance of maintaining the human spirit’s strength amidst challenges, recognizing our vast untapped potential. They discuss Brad’s extensive work on ghost stories and the afterlife, touching on his near-death experience at age 11, which convinced him of life after death. Brad explains that personal experiences with the paranormal create a certain rapport and understanding among those who have had similar encounters, making it easier to discern genuine stories.
Art brings up the prevalence of functional drug users in society, highlighting that many people manage to maintain normal lives despite casual drug use. He shares the story of Gordon, who experienced a sudden loss of voice during a significant business presentation and subsequently saw geometric patterns in the hospital. Gordon later developed the ability to foresee various futures. Brad suggests that these geometric patterns might be living symbols pulsating with energy, communicating instantaneously to one’s essence. He believes that such experiences might provide insights and inspirations over a lifetime, possibly given in a single moment and recalled gradually.
Brad reflects on the idea that he might have received the themes for his numerous books during his childhood experiences, pondering the notion of being “activated” to remember and decipher these inspirations throughout his life. He acknowledges the mystery of “why me?” and the frequent contemplation of his purpose, especially as he witnesses close friends passing away.
Brad and Art discuss the concept of life as a learning journey on “Schoolhouse Earth,” where we face challenges and grow through experiences. Brad reflects on his idealism as a young man, believing that by the year 2000, humanity would overcome bigotry, prejudice, greed, war, and pollution. He acknowledges the persistence of these issues but maintains a hopeful outlook, viewing life as a continuous learning process.
Art asks Brad to grade humanity collectively, and Brad reluctantly suggests a D-minus, acknowledging that while some individuals excel, the average pulls the grade down. They discuss Brad’s book “Voices from Beyond,” which explores various types of spirit communication. Brad debates whether these voices are genuine contacts with the spirit world or manifestations of the human mind’s incredible capabilities. He concludes that both possibilities are valid and difficult to distinguish.
Art asks Brad about the best evidence for life after death. Brad cites cases where information is revealed that no living person could have known, such as the location of hidden documents, which strongly suggest communication with the spirit world. Art shares a doctor’s accounts of near-death experiences (NDEs), where individuals reported out-of-body experiences and accurately described events they couldn’t have witnessed otherwise.
Brad affirms his belief in the possibility of out-of-body experiences, emphasizing that they are natural but should be approached with caution. He expresses frustration with modern society’s desire for instant gratification, stressing the importance of discipline, scholarship, and patience in achieving spiritual growth. Brad compares the process to a rosebud blooming in its own time, underscoring that spiritual gifts cannot be rushed.
Art and Brad discuss the profound implications of out-of-body and near-death experiences. Brad believes that if the human spirit can leave the body before death, it validates many spiritual and paranormal claims. He recounts how personal proof from such experiences is irrefutable for those who have had them. Art, though he hasn’t had an out-of-body experience, shares a conversation with a doctor who was willing to clinically induce and study near-death experiences, reminiscent of the movie “Flatliners.”
Brad tells the story of a mentor who was declared dead after a car accident but revived in the morgue. This experience led the mentor and a team of doctors to conduct medically controlled experiments, during which he purportedly visited other dimensions and communicated with entities. Brad acknowledges the ethical and spiritual risks of such experiments, including the fear of divine retribution.
Art and Brad also discuss the mentor’s private publication, which details his experiences and serves as a record of these remarkable events. Brad hints at sharing a copy of his book, “One with the Light,” which references these stories. The conversation shifts to the broader implications of proving life after death and the cautious academic discussion surrounding these sensitive topics.
Brad shares that he and others have successfully conducted experiments where participants projected their consciousness to distant locations and accurately described objects and environments. These experiments, conducted live on television, astonished observers and provided compelling evidence of the human mind’s capabilities.
Art questions whether such experiences are the same as the soul projecting itself towards eternity. Brad believes they are connected and that individuals can explore other realms through these experiences, though it may not satisfy every skeptic. He emphasizes the importance of being open-minded and accepting evidence comparable to legal standards.
A caller asks about Brad’s book “The Star People” and its conclusions. Brad clarifies that many people are awakening to the realization that their spiritual essence comes from another place or dimension, not that aliens walk among us. He explains that this concept aligns with the idea that our spirits are temporarily inhabiting physical bodies and will move on after death. This belief is shared across various religious and philosophical traditions.
Another caller inquires about the geometric forms Brad mentioned earlier. Brad recounts seeing these forms during his near-death experience, which brought him profound peace and a sense of divine purpose. He explains that these symbols conveyed the meaning of life and history, reassuring him of a greater plan. The caller shares a similar experience, describing cosmic sounds accompanying the geometric forms, further illustrating the shared nature of these profound spiritual experiences.
Art and Brad discuss further the topic of near-death experiences (NDEs) and their unique aspects compared to out-of-body experiences (OBEs). A caller shares a personal story of surviving a severe boating accident, which led to a sense of purpose and the realization of being spared for a reason. Brad confirms that the geometric patterns seen during NDEs are often accompanied by a sense of understanding and sometimes music, which he occasionally still hears.
Brad emphasizes that NDEs seem to provide a unique glimpse into another realm, a notion supported by the shamanic traditions of various cultures where individuals undergo life-threatening experiences as part of their spiritual initiation. This process of facing death and returning is seen as a way to gain access to the world of spirits.
Another caller asks Brad about Wilhelm Reich, a controversial figure known for his research into orgone energy, a life force he believed could be harnessed and used for various purposes, including affecting weather patterns and bringing UFOs into visibility. Brad explains that Reich’s work involved creating devices like the orgone buster, which he used in experiments in the desert, capturing photographs of what he believed were living UFO entities. Reich’s unconventional theories and experiments eventually led to his imprisonment and death in prison, a fate that Brad finds unjust given the nature of Reich’s beliefs and research.
Brad encourages listeners to continue searching for Reich’s books and explore his ideas, noting that while controversial, they offer intriguing insights into the possibilities of life force energy and its interaction with the environment.
Art and Brad discuss the potential societal impact of a device called the Trustor. This Israeli-developed technology can analyze voice stress levels to determine the truthfulness of statements with almost the same accuracy as a polygraph. Art wonders whether widespread use of such a device would lead to societal breakdown or force everyone to be truthful.
Brad expresses concern about the potential misuse of the device, emphasizing the importance of skilled interpretation to distinguish between stress caused by lying and stress from other sources. He shares a personal anecdote about how being called a liar invokes a strong reaction, highlighting the importance of context and understanding in communication.
Brad recounts an example of the “Pork Chop Hill syndrome,” where people adopt stories as their own, believing them over time. He describes a woman who sincerely believed urban legends had happened to her, illustrating how subjective experiences can blur the lines between truth and fiction. Brad stresses the importance of being cautious when evaluating personal accounts, particularly in journalism.
Art points out that the Trustor device is designed to be more pragmatic, capable of identifying falsehoods in everyday interactions like business deals. However, it recognizes the limitations of detecting truthfulness in psychotic individuals or those who genuinely believe their false statements. The conversation ends with both pondering the ethical and practical implications of such a technology.
Art and Brad address various intriguing topics brought up by callers. A caller named Wolf asks Brad about his research into Aboriginal dreamtime. Brad confirms that while he hasn’t had direct experience with Australian Aboriginals, he has done extensive research into the concept, noting similarities between Australian and American native traditions.
Another caller from Phoenix shares his personal experiences with seeing spirits and feeling a diminishing connection to the spiritual side as he ages, particularly after turning 50. Brad and Art discuss how children are often conditioned to dismiss their spiritual experiences, leading to a decrease in these experiences as they grow older. Brad suggests that the caller’s individual quest might be guiding him to emphasize different aspects of his spiritual journey.
Brad emphasizes that many people are feeling an intensification of spiritual experiences and a heightened sense of the current times, whether viewed as end times, transition times, or simply the approach of the year 2000. He notes that while individual experiences vary, there is a general sense of urgency and change in the air.
Another caller asks about Brad’s childhood encounter with an entity and whether he checked the washtub under the window the next morning. Brad recalls that the washtub was indeed there, as it was used for various purposes like washing and overflow.
A caller shares their experience of seeing unusual creatures and seeking advice on how to interpret these visions. Brad advises caution, emphasizing the need to protect oneself with positive intentions and not to fall for any grandiose claims. He suggests surrounding oneself with white or golden light and seeking only benevolent communications.
Art mentions a conversation with Father Malachi Martin, who reported a significant increase in cases of possession and evil in recent years. Brad reflects on how his views on evil have evolved, acknowledging its existence through painful experiences despite being an optimist. They discuss the troubling trend of school violence and the soulless behavior of young perpetrators, contemplating possession as a possible explanation.
A caller from Bend, Oregon, brings up the topic of time and noticing meaningful patterns in digital clocks, such as seeing 12:34 frequently. Art shares a similar experience, often seeing 10:10 on clocks. Brad suggests these patterns may be signals to pay attention to one’s environment and opportunities, indicating a significant moment of decision or truth.
They agree that recognizing these patterns and taking time to reflect on life and its sequences can be crucial, especially in times of heightened spiritual and environmental awareness.
A caller mentions experiencing unusual sequences of numbers and asks about their possible connection to geometric patterns. Brad suggests that these number sequences might be urging people to pay attention to the present moment and make the best use of their time. He acknowledges that many people report hearing number sequences from various sources, including UFOs.
Art transitions to a discussion about the increased solar activity and its impact on shortwave bands, then brings up Terence McKenna, known for his experiences with the psychedelic drug DMT. McKenna reported encountering self-transforming machine-like entities during his trips, which communicated through geometric patterns and music. A listener’s fax suggests a possible connection between these drug-induced experiences and the geometric patterns associated with near-death experiences (NDEs).
Brad expresses his preference for natural methods over drug use to achieve spiritual experiences. He shares his long-standing stance since the 1960s, advocating for discipline and preparation in spiritual practices. While he acknowledges that some people may find value in psychedelic experiences, he remains cautious about recreational use and the potential for abuse.
Another caller, Jerry from Seattle, shares a profound meditation experience where he traveled beyond the white light using techniques taught by Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. Jerry describes moving through a narrow passage, which he associates with the “eye of the needle” referenced by Jesus, and encountering a conscious white light he believed to be his spiritual master. He experienced a sense of peace and recognition but did not receive any communication from the light.
Art and Brad address a caller’s experience with a profound meditation that led to visions and a sense of universal connectedness. The caller describes seeing a gold ring of light with a geometric fishnet pattern, feeling surrounded by a substance akin to love water or the universal soul. This was achieved through a disciplined meditation, not a near-death experience. Brad acknowledges the caller’s achievement and highlights that such experiences often involve natural, disciplined methods, similar to those used by mystics and spiritual seekers across cultures.
Art and Brad discuss how these spiritual experiences often manifest within the framework of one’s cultural and religious background. Brad mentions that his wife, Sherry, had a prolonged out-of-body experience where she perceived the New Jerusalem, aligning with her Christian beliefs. They agree that spiritual experiences can vary greatly but often lead to a similar understanding of a higher truth or divine reality. Brad asserts that people create their own heavens based on their earthly experiences and beliefs, suggesting a multiplicity of spiritual realms.
Another caller shares a childhood memory of telling his grandmother about a mechanic shop he felt he used to work at, despite never having been there. His grandmother eventually confirmed the accuracy of his descriptions. The caller also recounts accurately describing the layout of a club in North Dakota, which he had never visited before. Brad comments on the phenomena of past life memories and psychic impressions, acknowledging that such experiences challenge our understanding of reality and memory.
Art and Brad address various intriguing topics brought up by callers. The first caller discusses the experience of seeing familiar places or events that they had never physically encountered before, suggesting a telepathic or clairvoyant ability. Brad agrees, describing the caller as a natural clairvoyant, capable of projecting their essence to perceive distant locations or events.
Another caller shares an experience of visualizing peace and unexpectedly finding themselves looking down on Earth from above. They describe seeing a shimmering web connecting everything, which they grasped, leading them to an incredible place of peace. Brad notes that many people describe similar webs in their mystical experiences, emphasizing the importance of intent and desire in achieving such states.
Art then transitions to a break, mentioning the unusual weather and upcoming discussions with guests like Gordon Michael Scallion. After the break, a caller named Nicholas from Los Angeles challenges the pessimistic view of upcoming earth changes. Nicholas believes that people can travel out of their bodies in spirit to heal the planet, suggesting this ability prevented some of Scallion’s predictions from coming true.
Art responds by noting that Scallion had conditional predictions and that recent conversations suggest he now believes these conditions are being met. Art advises listening to Scallion’s upcoming appearance for more details.
Art and Brad continue their discussion on spiritual preparedness and the potential for earth changes. Brad emphasizes the importance of spiritual development and individual readiness, advocating for personal growth and positive actions to create a collective domino effect. He acknowledges that some earth changes might be part of a larger cosmic cycle, unrelated to human actions or morality.
A caller from Las Vegas, Sandy, asks about the idea that humans are genetically engineered by multiple small gods, as suggested by theories like those of Zecharia Sitchin. Brad explains that while it is a viable hypothesis that humans may have received some help along the way, it doesn’t exclude the existence of a higher God. He advises Sandy to consider this perspective as one possible truth among many.
Another caller from Philadelphia, John, inquires about the availability of books on tape for the blind. Art mentions that his book “The Quickening” will soon be available on tape, and Brad adds that while he has given permission for some of his books to be recorded, he is unsure which titles are available. He shares a personal story about an old English teacher who benefitted from books on tape during his illness.
One caller recounts an early childhood experience of seeing a black hand that frightened him. After deciding not to wake up when the hand appeared again, he felt his psychic abilities open up. Brad suggests that this might have been a summoning to a sort of “classroom” where many people report being taught and having their awareness expanded.
Another caller shares a mystical experience from age 12, involving a white light that transformed his perception of the world. This experience led him on a spiritual journey through various religious and mystical traditions. Brad encourages the caller to continue this journey and suggests that his upcoming trip to Peru might provide significant answers, noting the rise in mystical experiences among people.
Art asks Brad if he believes a planet-wide spiritual shock could occur, one that would change humanity overnight. Brad affirms that he feels this intuitively and has sensed it for a long time.
Brad reflects on the possibility of a sudden, collective spiritual awakening, a notion that resonates with him deeply. This idea energizes and drives him, forming a core part of his work. Art and Brad briefly discuss Brad’s latest book, “Guardian Angels and Spirit Guides,” which features extraordinary stories from everyday people. These accounts include life-changing encounters with angels, such as a World War II commando who survived in the Sahara Desert thanks to an angel refilling his canteen daily.
Brad emphasizes that many of the book’s stories come from individuals without prior religious experiences, underscoring the transformative power of these encounters. He mentions the availability of his book in both large and small print editions, encouraging listeners to check their local bookstores or order online.
As the show wraps up, Art expresses his appreciation for Brad’s insights and the engaging discussion.