1999-04-02 – Glenn Kimball – Politics of the Crucifixion

Show: Area 2000

Air Date: April 2, 1999

Guest(s): Glenn Kimball

Topic(s): Politics of the Crucifixion

Art discusses various topics, starting with a reflection on America’s greatness and a detailed report on military actions in Belgrade, highlighting the intensity of the bombings there. The conversation then shifts to domestic matters, including a brief mention of Easter and new program segments. Art introduces Glenn Kimball, a highly educated individual with a diverse background, who discusses his latest book, “The Hidden Politics of the Crucifixion.” The discussion delves into the political aspects of Jesus’s crucifixion, comparing ancient and modern politics. Art and Glenn also explore historical evidence of Jesus’s existence, challenging commonly accepted views and citing lesser-known historical records that corroborate Jesus’s life and impact, particularly a notable mention by Tiberius Caesar post-crucifixion.

Art faces technical difficulties that he humorously speculates could be due to Y2K or other mysterious reasons. The show resumes its focus on Glenn Kimball, who elaborates on the evidential support for Jesus’s life and miracles. He shares insights from the Sanhedrin’s reports and Gamaliel’s observations, revealing both critical and affirming perspectives on Jesus. These accounts, including unexpected validations from various cultures and historical records, contribute to a multifaceted portrayal of Jesus’s impact.

Kimball surprises Art by asserting that Hinduism may have as much, if not more, documented miracles than Christianity. This revelation leads to a broader discussion about the universality of Jesus’s story across different cultures. Kimball explains that diverse historical records, including those from Hinduism, provide a rich tapestry of evidence supporting the miraculous aspects of Jesus’s life. He also touches on the historical context of Jesus’s era, describing the geopolitical tensions in Palestine and how they might influence contemporary perceptions of Jesus.

Art Bell and Glenn Kimball discuss the parallels between ancient politics and modern-day scenarios, noting the Roman Empire’s similarities to contemporary America in terms of freedom and infrastructure. Kimball introduces the idea that historical cycles of religious and ethnic conflicts are a persistent human condition, suggesting that we might be on the cusp of a prophesied era of peace. He references various ancient texts, including Mayan and Hebraic, which forecast a new millennium of peace around the years 2008 to 2012. Kimball also delves into astronomical predictions and how ancient civilizations, despite their deep astronomical knowledge, lacked our current understanding of star movements. The conversation then shifts to Kimball’s new book, which explores the political machinations behind the crucifixion of Jesus, including the assertion that Pontius Pilate was blackmailed into ordering the crucifixion.

The conversation between Art Bell and Glenn Kimball delves into the political intricacies surrounding Pontius Pilate and the crucifixion of Jesus. Kimball reveals that Pilate was indirectly connected to a failed coup, putting him in a vulnerable position susceptible to blackmail by prominent Jewish leaders, specifically Annas and Caiaphas. This blackmail was rooted in Jesus’s growing influence and perceived threat to the Roman-Jewish alliance, especially given Jesus’s recognition by Tiberius Caesar and his teachings gaining traction in Rome and among the Jewish Sanhedrin.

Kimball further elaborates on the profound political implications of Jesus’s position, presenting him as a unifying figure that threatened the existing power structures. He introduces the notion that Pilate wrote a letter, which allegedly survives today, detailing his encounter with the resurrected Jesus, a pivotal moment that led to his conversion to Christianity.

Glenn Kimball further elucidates the intricate dynamics surrounding the crucifixion of Jesus. He suggests that Herod didn’t kill Jesus because he didn’t want to fall out of favor with the people, emphasizing the complex web of political and social pressures at play. Kimball argues that Pontius Pilate was chosen as the scapegoat in this situation due to a blackmail scheme linked to his past interactions with a failed coup attempt.

The discussion transitions into Kimball’s exploration of prophecies across different religions, pointing out the similarities and suggesting a single source for these prophetic visions. This leads to a broader conversation about the universal aspects of religious teachings and the shared anticipation of a transformative future event among various faiths.

Kimball also mentions his books and the reaction they have received, highlighting the public’s enthusiasm for new perspectives on historical religious events. He touches on the supportive collaboration with his co-author, David Sterling, in their shared mission to unveil lesser-known historical truths about Jesus and the crucifixion.

Glenn Kimball discusses the Roman Empire’s approach to Christianity and their reluctance to harm the Jews, who were economically valuable to them. He elaborates on the connection between Tiberius Caesar and Joseph of Arimathea, suggesting that Caesar’s reaction to the supernatural events surrounding Jesus’s crucifixion was one of fear rather than vengeance. Kimball introduces the idea that the resurrection phenomena extended beyond Jesus, affecting Rome and contributing to the sealing of tombs there.

The conversation shifts to a broader historical and cultural context, exploring the Egyptians’ fascination with resurrection, suggested by their construction of the pyramids. Kimball proposes that these ancient structures were attempts to create an environment conducive to resurrection, influenced by a blend of Egyptian and Hebraic beliefs.

Glenn Kimball discusses the significance of holy artifacts, particularly focusing on the Ark of the Covenant. He explores various theories about its location, suggesting that it may be in places as diverse as Costa Rica, Constantinople, or Northern Africa, and is guarded due to its profound historical and religious significance.

Kimball also delves into the legal and social status of Jesus in Roman society, suggesting that Jesus was considered a Roman citizen because his foster father, Joseph of Arimathea, was a Roman citizen. This citizenship could have influenced Pontius Pilate’s reluctance to crucify Jesus. Additionally, Kimball introduces the idea that Pilate and Jesus shared a connection through their education in Druid universities, which might have further complicated Pilate’s decisions during the crucifixion.

The discussion transitions to broader historical contexts, including the Roman Empire’s interactions with various cultures and their strategic avoidance of conflict with the Druids due to their educational significance.

Glenn Kimball continues to explore the complex political and religious dynamics surrounding the crucifixion of Jesus. He emphasizes that the Sadducees, a small but powerful Jewish sect aligned with Roman interests, were the primary beneficiaries of Jesus’s death. Kimball argues that their motive was to maintain their privileged position and alliance with Rome, which Jesus threatened due to his growing influence and the support he received from influential figures like Joseph of Arimathea.

Kimball clarifies that it was not Roman soldiers but the Sanhedrin’s police force, led by the son of Caiaphas, who arrested Jesus, underscoring the internal Jewish conflict rather than Roman hostility. He suggests that the immediate decision to take Jesus to the houses of Annas and Caiaphas after his arrest indicates their key roles in orchestrating his death.

The discussion also touches on the broader implications of these historical insights, encouraging listeners to re-examine their understanding of Jesus’s life and crucifixion within their religious beliefs.

Glenn Kimball addresses the recognition and self-awareness of Jesus regarding his divine identity. He explains that Jesus was fully cognizant of his role as the Messiah and communicated this to those around him, aligning with prophecies that predicted his coming as a supernatural being.

Kimball also delves into the hypothetical examination of Jesus’s DNA, suggesting that while Jesus was mortal with human attributes, there might be distinct differences in his genetic makeup due to his divine nature. This speculative scientific inquiry ties back to the theological concept of resurrection and transformation, proposing that future resurrection could involve a change at the DNA level, contributing to a prophesied era of peace.

The conversation transitions to a broader examination of the term “chosen people,” suggesting that it should be interpreted as being selected to perform specific tasks rather than implying superiority. This redefinition extends to various religious and cultural groups, each claiming a chosen status in their own right.

The discussion touches on the significance of Jesus’s titles, exploring their meanings and implications. Kimball clarifies that “Nazarene” likely refers to being set apart, resonating with the idea that Jesus was distinguished for a unique purpose, as were other figures like Samson in religious texts.

Glenn Kimball delves into the historical context surrounding Nazareth, indicating that there was no town of Nazareth at the time of Jesus’s birth based on maps from that era. He then transitions to discussing Hypatia, a mathematician and philosopher from Alexandria, highlighting her tragic fate due to her commitment to truth and knowledge during a time of religious and cultural amalgamation.

Kimball also touches upon the persecution of scholars and scientists throughout history, noting parallels between past and contemporary challenges faced by those pushing the boundaries of knowledge. The conversation then shifts back to the topic of Jesus, with Kimball suggesting that sightings of the resurrected Jesus continued into the fifth century, ceasing only with the onset of the Dark Ages.

The discussion also covers the origins of Easter traditions, particularly the use of eggs. Kimball recounts a legend involving Mary Magdalene, who purportedly used boiled eggs to bribe guards at Jesus’s tomb, which eventually led to the Easter egg tradition. Lastly, Kimball addresses the broader phenomenon of resurrection during Jesus’s time, noting historical accounts of multiple individuals being resurrected in Jerusalem, which he argues should be more widely recognized and recorded given its miraculous nature.

The discussion focuses on the phenomenon of the dead rising during the time of Jesus’s resurrection. Glenn Kimball highlights that this event was not isolated to Jerusalem but had similar occurrences in Rome and potentially globally, suggesting a widespread supernatural event that, due to its eerie nature, was not commonly discussed or recorded in mainstream history.

Kimball also touches on the legend of the Easter egg, linking it to Mary Magdalene’s efforts to prepare Jesus’s body with boiled eggs used as a bribe for the guards. This narrative provides a historical context to the tradition of Easter eggs, tying it back to the events surrounding Jesus’s crucifixion and resurrection.

The conversation then shifts to a caller from Costa Rica, discussing the potential location of the Ark of the Covenant in a church in Costa Rica. This sparks a broader discussion about the significance of such artifacts and the lengths individuals might go to uncover or experience them.

Glenn Kimball discusses the nature of near-death experiences (NDEs), suggesting that fear at the moment of death can influence the experience and potentially lead to witnessing fearful or distressing scenarios. He emphasizes that in NDEs, individuals may have heightened perceptions and the ability to experience beyond the physical senses, which could explain the varied nature of these experiences.

Kimball also touches upon the concept of “god-fearing” versus “god-respecting,” suggesting that the original Aramaic texts might convey a sense of respect rather than fear towards God. This interpretation aligns with Jesus’s teachings, which focused on love and hope rather than fear.

The conversation shifts to the role of eggs in the Easter tradition, with a humorous suggestion about “deviled eggs” and a caller inquiring about ancient commentaries on the Old Testament available on Kimball’s website. The discussion further explores the essence of religious teachings, encapsulated in the principle of loving one’s neighbor as oneself, a core message found across various religious texts, including the Gospel of Thomas.

Glenn Kimball discusses the controversial idea that Jesus may have had offspring and that these descendants intermingled with European royal families. He explains the historical context that could support this theory, noting that Jesus’s grandmother, part of the royal house of David, was born in England and that Jesus himself had royal blood from various lineages.

Kimball further expands on Jesus’s interactions with dignitaries and influential figures from various cultures, suggesting that his noble lineage facilitated these relationships. He also touches on the accounts of the resurrected Jesus, who reportedly visited and dined with people across Europe and Asia, further cementing his impact on various cultures and societies.

The conversation shifts to a caller’s question about what existed before God, to which Kimball refers to ancient manuscripts that describe a self-generated, unbegotten entity, hinting at the profound mystery surrounding the origins of the divine.

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he conversation turns to various topics, starting with a listener’s mention of the Great Pyramid and its possible reference in the Book of Isaiah. This leads to a broader discussion about the Ark of the Covenant, with a claim that Saddam Hussein might have possessed it during the Iran-Iraq War, suggesting a hidden layer of history yet to be fully uncovered.

The conversation shifts to a more theological inquiry about the discrepancy in the timing of Jesus’s crucifixion and resurrection as presented in the Gospels. A caller questions the traditional Christian timeline that doesn’t align with Jesus’s prophecy of being in the tomb for three days and three nights. Dr. Kimball acknowledges this inconsistency, pointing out that the Gospel of John differs from the others in the timeline of the Last Supper and the crucifixion, which could be due to the varying dates the Gospels were written and the perspectives they offer.

Another caller brings up the possibility that different calendars in use at the time of Jesus might explain the conflicting timelines in the Gospels. This discussion touches on the broader historical context of calendar systems and how they might have influenced religious observances and narratives in the Bible.

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he discussion delves into the standardization of the calendar system in 533 AD by Dionysius Exiguus, emphasizing its economic necessity for synchronizing merchant activities. It highlights how the transition to a standardized calendar was influenced by the rise of Christianity, leading Dionysius to base it on the year of Jesus’s birth, although he miscalculated the date.

The dialogue also touches upon various interpretations of scriptural and historical discrepancies, pointing out that different gospel accounts and the imperfections of scribes have led to conflicts within the scriptures themselves. These conflicts might be resolved by aligning calendars, festivals, and comparing various historical documents.

A caller raises a question about an error in the Bible concerning Jesus’s alleged behaviors, like smoking flax. Dr. Kimball responds by emphasizing that those who knew Jesus personally provided accounts of his exemplary life, suggesting criticisms came from those not intimately acquainted with him.