1999-05-06 – William Thomas – Chemtrails

Show: Coast To Coast AM

Air Date: May 6, 1999

Guest(s): William Thomas

Topic(s): Chemtrails

The show delves into the enigmatic topic of chemtrails with guest William Thomas, an investigative reporter from Canada. This particular story, which seems to refuse to dissipate, captures the attention of a broad audience, indicating its significant impact. Thomas, who honed his journalistic skills in various North American cities, brings a rich background in military affairs, health, and environmental issues to the table. His work has been highly recognized, earning him numerous awards, and his investigations into the contrail phenomenon are no different. As the show progresses, Thomas shares anecdotes about the unusual contrail patterns he observed, initially skeptical, he was eventually convinced by the compelling evidence he gathered, including personal observations and videotapes.

William Thomas delves into the alarming history of biological warfare simulations in the United States, highlighting past governmental tests that sprayed biological stimulants over populated areas without public consent, contributing to widespread health issues. These experiments, which began as early as the 1950s, were ostensibly to test dispersal patterns of potential biological weapons. This revelation comes amidst a larger, ongoing debate over the nature of the current contrails, which Thomas argues are unusually persistent and may be affecting weather patterns and public health. Despite modern advancements that allow for simulation of dispersal patterns via computers, the physical testing continues, raising suspicions about the true purpose of these activities. Thomas suggests that these extended “simulations” might not be mere tests but part of a more extensive, undisclosed project.

The conversation on “Coast to Coast AM” takes an interesting turn with the introduction of Rocky, a senior flight test engineer for Boeing, who addresses the contrail phenomena observed across various states. Rocky explains that the patterns seen in the sky, such as cloverleafs or concentric circles, are typical of flight testing practices that involve flying over navigation beacons in various patterns. He clarifies that these operations are normal and have been performed over multiple states including California, New Mexico, and Nevada, among others.

Rocky further elaborates that these test flights are conducted at altitudes ranging from 250 feet to 41,000 feet using a variety of aircraft, including Boeing’s commercial models like the 737 and 777. He also points out that test aircraft may not always be recognizable as they could be painted in consumer airline colors or just in plain white. During testing, aircraft may hover over a particular area of the sky for extended periods, which could account for the unusual persistence of the contrails observed.

This clarification from a Boeing insider brings a different perspective to the ongoing discussion about the nature of these contrails, suggesting that at least some of the patterns can be attributed to routine flight testing rather than covert operations.

Rocky further emphasizes the cleanliness of modern aircraft engines, explaining that they do not emit visible pollutants and that any peculiarities in contrail formation are likely due to standard flight operations. However, William Thomas remains skeptical, particularly about Rocky’s unawareness of discussions on contrails affecting weather patterns, which Thomas insists are prevalent among scientists and the military, with NASA investing significantly in cloud formation studies.

Despite Rocky’s reassurances, Thomas continues to explore the possibility of unusual contrail-related activities, reporting observations from various sources, including airline pilots who have noticed abnormal patterns distinct from standard air traffic routes. These observations include complex crosshatching patterns over non-major airways, contributing to Thomas’s belief that these are not ordinary contrails. He shares his personal experiences and observations, supported by photographic evidence, suggesting a radical difference in the skies compared to historical norms. His encounters and the influx of similar reports from credible observers fuel the debate on whether these patterns signify a broader, undisclosed phenomenon impacting the atmosphere.

William Thomas presents alarming findings from environmental tests. These tests revealed significant contamination from a biohazardous material, pseudomonas fluorescens, which can cause severe infections in humans. This bacterium was found in samples collected from a building that showed no signs of soil contamination, suggesting airborne deposition. The samples were so concerning that even the lab technicians were alarmed by the rapid growth of cultures.

Thomas further explores the implications of other substances found in the samples, including substances used for DNA manipulation, which underscore the potential severity and mysterious nature of the material being deposited. The findings have been rigorously vetted and published by an environmental news service, adding credibility to the disturbing evidence presented.

The situation escalates with personal anecdotes and additional samples from across the United States, indicating a widespread and possibly deliberate release of these substances. These reports have fueled a growing concern among the public and experts alike, leading to intensified scrutiny and calls for further investigation into the origins and purposes of these aerial phenomena.

The topic shifts to a caller’s firsthand experience with unusual aerial phenomena, intensifying the debate around mysterious contrails. The caller, an anonymous person from New Hampshire, describes witnessing an extraordinary display of multiple contrails forming unique patterns, including what appeared to be a hand shape in the sky. This visual spectacle was accompanied by physical symptoms in the community, such as widespread upper respiratory illnesses, which were inconsistent with typical flu season patterns.

The episode illustrates growing public concern as more individuals report similar experiences, including unusual weather patterns like unexpected fog and haze, which contradict regular weather forecasts. These accounts raise suspicions about the potential health and environmental impacts of the substances being dispersed. The caller also relays an unsettling encounter involving a low-flying aircraft that left a sticky, unidentified substance on her house, which local authorities dismissively attributed to “cornmeal.”

William Thomas highlights the increasing frequency of such reports from across the United States, suggesting a pattern of activities possibly linked to military operations using small, often underutilized airports. These incidents, combined with evasive responses from official channels, contribute to theories of a systematic cover-up regarding the true nature and purpose of these airborne operations.

William Wallace, shares a harrowing personal narrative of repeated exposure to mysterious substances from aircraft, which he believes are directly related to severe health issues affecting him and his family. Wallace describes multiple instances where he and his wife experienced sudden and severe health symptoms such as debilitating joint pain, headaches, and gastrointestinal issues immediately following the appearance of contrails. These incidents occurred over their property and were accompanied by acute, observable physical effects.

Wallace’s attempts to seek explanations and help led to interactions with various authorities, including the FAA and the Pentagon, but responses were dismissive, attributing the phenomena to normal contrail activity. He expresses frustration with these explanations, feeling that they don’t address the severity of his and others’ experiences. He also recounts an alarming situation where his elderly father-in-law suffered a critical health crisis following exposure to these substances, further fueling his concern and determination to uncover the truth behind these aerial activities.

William Wallace recounts further distressing experiences following his initial exposure to mysterious aerial substances. He mentions contacting the media, which led to some initial interest but no substantial action or coverage. Subsequent “visits” by aircraft over his property coincided with severe health declines, particularly affecting his wife, who tested positive for Epstein-Barr virus, suggesting a potential link to the contrails.

William Thomas, another guest on the show, draws connections between Wallace’s symptoms and Gulf War Illness, a condition he has extensively researched and written about. Thomas underscores the similarities in symptoms and posits that the same pathogenic agents, such as mycoplasma, might be involved. He suggests these agents have been experimented with by the military, implying a sinister aspect to the ongoing contrail phenomena.

The discussion touches on military practices, such as the use of chaff—metal-coated fibers used to confuse radar—which some speculate could be related to the observed contrails. However, Thomas refutes this, clarifying that chaff does not have the properties necessary to create the persistent cloud formations associated with contrails and would be impractical and dangerous to use near commercial air traffic.

The discussion centers around mysterious brown spots reported on houses, which were initially suspected to be blue ice (frozen toilet waste) from aircraft but were later identified differently upon testing. The guests discuss instances where hazardous material teams quickly responded by cleaning the sites with bleach without collecting samples for proper analysis, which raises suspicions about the nature of the substance and the urgency of the response.

William Thomas and the callers express frustration over the rapid clean-up operations that prevent further investigation into these substances. There’s a recurring theme of quick responses from authorities that seem to preclude thorough examination, suggesting a pattern of dismissals or cover-ups regarding these incidents. This lack of transparency fuels speculation and concern among those affected or interested in these events.

The conversation also touches on the risks associated with handling the mysterious substances, noting that individuals have suffered health consequences. The reference to a professional singer losing his voice parallels the symptoms described by those exposed to the substances, reinforcing concerns about their potential health hazards.

Thomas is cautious about disclosing specific details about the laboratories conducting tests on these substances due to previous harassment and the sensitive nature of their findings.

The topic shifts to more community reports concerning mysterious aerial phenomena. A caller from Salt Lake City, Utah, mentions a recent incident involving brown goo that hit a vehicle, which was initially reported as possibly being blue ice (frozen toilet waste from planes) but was later identified as something else upon further investigation. This incident added to the growing concerns among residents about unusual substances falling from the sky.

The caller also describes a separate event involving a strange odor and a flash cloud that hovered over the city, leading to hospitalizations and extensive environmental testing by hazmat teams. These incidents were reported multiple times across local media, highlighting a pattern of unexplained aerial phenomena accompanied by rapid and somewhat mysterious responses from authorities.

William Thomas discusses these reports with callers, emphasizing the seriousness of the incidents and the community’s heightened awareness and concern. He expresses worry about the potential health risks associated with these substances, especially after similar events led to severe health impacts on his associates. Thomas’s continued investigation into these matters reflects a growing public demand for answers and accountability from officials regarding what these substances are and why they are appearing.

One caller from Jacksonville, Florida, describes a peculiar incident where several coworkers who shared the same shift and carpool schedule suddenly fell ill with flu-like symptoms simultaneously. This situation was unusual because only those on the same shift got sick, and no one else in their workplace or other shifts exhibited symptoms. The caller, having a background in the medical field, found it odd, especially since the illness coincided with the presence of semi-low flying aircraft that did not follow the usual patterns associated with the local military bases.

The caller’s experience raises questions about the nature of the illness, as all affected individuals were treated with various new antibiotics, suggesting an unusual or resistant strain of infection. This situation leads to further speculation about the link between the aircraft activities and the subsequent health effects experienced by the caller and her coworkers.

Listeners also report their pets falling ill or even dying, suggesting that the environmental impact of these aerial phenomena might be broader, affecting both humans and animals. Reports of wildlife and livestock, particularly horses, suffering from similar symptoms and dying in unusual circumstances after exposure to these substances further underscore the potential environmental and health risks associated with these incidents.

William Thomas discusses the potential role of a mycoplasma infection, which he suggests could be an opportunistic agent affecting those with weakened immune systems, possibly triggered by environmental factors related to the reported aerial sprays.

The conversation covers various reports from callers about unexplained sicknesses in communities, particularly after witnessing unusual aerial activity. These reports include detailed accounts of symptoms that last much longer than those of a typical flu and do not respond to standard flu treatments. The symptoms are similar to those associated with chronic illnesses such as lupus and chronic fatigue syndrome, which have been linked in some research to mycoplasma infections.

Thomas also references his book, “Bringing the War Home,” which discusses the discovery of mycoplasma fermentans in Gulf War veterans, suggesting a connection to experimental anthrax vaccines. He brings up the contentious issue of military personnel objecting to vaccines due to concerns about their safety and effectiveness, further fueling the debate over the origins and implications of these biological agents.

A caller discusses the typical patterns of aircraft engaged in refueling operations, suggesting that the visible grid-like contrail patterns could be due to planes waiting in specific flight paths to refuel. However, William Thomas counters this by stating that according to a major general he corresponded with, Air Force tankers like the KC-135, which are often mentioned in chemtrail sighting reports, do not fly high enough to create contrails as they typically operate below the altitude where contrails form.

Further discussion involves an airline pilot who shares insights into the operational altitudes for refueling, confirming that it typically occurs at lower altitudes than where contrails are expected to form. The pilot also notes that fighter jets, which frequently engage in refueling, prefer lower altitudes due to the air density that supports better aircraft control.

Thomas emphasizes that the spraying activities reported and associated with chemtrails persist over extended periods, which would not align with the short bursts of discharge that might be expected from normal operations such as pressure stabilization in fuel tanks. He mentions that samples collected from chemtrail fallouts have not shown traces of jet fuel, suggesting that the material dispersed is not a byproduct of standard aircraft operations.

The conversation also touches on the experiences of another caller who reports systematic sickness among coworkers, which coincides with the observation of low-flying aircraft and unusual contrails. This pattern raises concerns about potential exposure to harmful substances or pathogens being distributed through these trails.

One caller, a Gulf War veteran from Texas, recounts seeing unusual lights and aircraft behavior during the war and describes a specific incident where he smelled something strange in the air, prompting him to wear a chemical mask. He also mentions ongoing health issues since returning from the war, including joint pain and respiratory problems, which he speculates might be linked to chemical exposure during his military service.

The conversation shifts towards exploring the scientific aspects of how contrails might show prismatic colors, which some callers have reported seeing. William Thomas notes that while water vapor from jets can form contrails, the appearance of rainbow colors in these trails is highly unusual and suggests the presence of additional chemicals.

A key part of the discussion involves a caller who claims to be a high-ranking U.S. Air Force officer, providing insights into military aviation operations related to the phenomena being discussed. This individual suggests that there are extensive cover programs and operational intrigues that align with some of the claims made by those observing unusual contrail activities.

William Thomas continues to explore the complex topic of aerial phenomena potentially linked to health and environmental issues. Discussion includes a variety of personal accounts and expert insights, focusing on the stratosphere’s role and the Air Force’s interest in conducting experiments at the interface between the stratosphere and the troposphere, referred to as “stratospheric folding.”

A caller, identifying himself as a Gulf War veteran, adds to the conversation by sharing his own unsettling experience of smelling a strange odor during the war, which he associated with chemical exposure. This experience has had long-term health consequences for him, a theme that recurs in many calls and aligns with Thomas’ research into potential widespread mycoplasma infections, which he suggests could be linked to military experiments.

The discussion turns technical with talk of aircraft operations, particularly regarding fuel and pressure systems in planes, and whether these could be linked to the observed aerial phenomena. The veteran’s story contributes to a larger narrative suggesting that military and other aircraft might be involved in undisclosed operations affecting public health.

William Thomas discusses his interaction with an FAA official who initially confirmed that nothing unusual was occurring with aircraft operations across the United States. However, this statement was later denied by the same official when followed up by another journalist, raising concerns about the reliability of the information provided by governmental agencies.

The segment also explores listener experiences and observations. For example, a caller from Portland, Oregon, reports that she and her friends have been experiencing recurring flu-like symptoms every few weeks, a pattern echoed by her contacts in other states. This widespread phenomenon aligns with Thomas’s concerns about potential links between observed aerial phenomena and severe health outcomes, such as pneumonia, meningitis, and other respiratory complications. The caller’s anecdote adds to the narrative of a potential health crisis that might be connected to environmental manipulations or undisclosed experiments.

Thomas mentions ongoing research into the link between weather modification efforts and the pathogens, polymers, and other materials found in collected samples. This research is part of a broader attempt to understand the full scope of the impact of these activities.

William Thomas addresses a wide range of topics related to the potential reasons behind the spraying of chemical substances from aircraft, which many believe are causing widespread health issues such as flu-like symptoms, severe respiratory diseases, and other illnesses.

One caller described his and his wife’s severe health struggles following what they believe were exposures to chemical trails, including recurring flu symptoms and congestive heart failure, which improved only after using treatments typically effective against mycoplasma infections—suggesting a bacterial component to their illnesses.

Thomas suggests multiple potential motivations for why these activities might be occurring:

  1. Historical Precedent: The U.S. government has a history of testing biological and chemical agents on its own population, purportedly to understand dispersal patterns and the effects of biological warfare.
  2. Weather Modification: There’s an interest in modifying weather patterns, which has been a topic within the Air Force. Activities may include creating aerosol screens to hide military operations or manipulating weather systems, which could inadvertently spread pathogens.
  3. Control Measures for Potential Unrest: Speculatively, Thomas suggests that these sprayings could be part of a strategy to manage public reaction in the face of potential crises, such as the anticipated disruptions from Y2K at the time. By incapacitating the population or creating widespread illness, the response to any societal upheaval could be more controlled.

Thomas also discusses the possibility of the U.S. government preparing for martial law or other severe measures in response to anticipated unrest, possibly related to the Y2K scare of the late 1990s. He mentions FEMA’s involvement in certain exercises, which could be interpreted as preparations for managing large-scale emergencies or disturbances.

William Thomas touches on the potential use of pathogens and polymers, suggesting that these substances may be combined for specific purposes such as weather modification or possibly even crowd control by inducing illness to prevent public unrest.

A caller brings up an experience of recurring flu-like symptoms that he and his wife suffered after observing contrail activities. His wife’s condition worsened to the point of hospitalization with congestive heart failure, though she later began to recover after they pursued treatment against traditional medical advice. This narrative aligns with the show’s theme of unexplained public health crises potentially linked to environmental factors.

Thomas proposes that if the spraying activities are indeed legitimate, the public deserves transparency to alleviate growing anxiety and to prevent potential escalation into public unrest, especially in the context of the upcoming Y2K (Year 2000) concerns prevalent at the time of the broadcast. He criticizes the secrecy and dismissive responses from officials, suggesting that this could actually increase public anxiety and potential unrest rather than mitigate it.

The segment also includes discussion on the technical aspects of the materials reportedly being sprayed. Thomas suggests that polymers, possibly combined with pathogens, might be used to create aerosols resistant to environmental degradation. This could have severe implications for public health, potentially triggering autoimmune diseases due to the body’s response to these foreign substances.

Additionally, Thomas mentions receiving a physical sample of material collected from an aircraft, which he plans to have tested to determine if it includes polymers and pathogens, hoping to further understand the substances and their implications.

A caller from Salt Lake City revisits the topic of blue ice (frozen wastewater from aircraft), which typically forms at high altitudes but has been reported under unusual circumstances. He shares his recent decision to leave his job at a major airline due to mysterious illnesses affecting him and his coworkers, which they attribute to exposure to substances associated with aircraft, particularly jet fuel.

Further complicating the narrative, callers from across the country, including Palmdale, California—referred to as a “contrail capital”—report observing unusual patterns in the sky, such as planes making crisscross patterns that result in significant cloud cover. One caller notes a particularly strange phenomenon: a large brown ring around the sun following heavy contrail activity, which she documented with photographs. These observations are linked by the callers to physical symptoms like sore throats and other respiratory issues.

William Thomas emphasizes the potential health risks of these aerial dispersions, suggesting they might contain harmful biological agents such as bacteria, molds, and yeasts. He stresses the seriousness of the situation by sharing emails from his research partners, who also report severe illnesses such as strep throat directly linked to exposure to these substances.

The conversation also touches on the frustration with medical professionals who, according to the callers, often dismiss their symptoms as typical flu, which prevents proper treatment and increases suffering. Thomas and his colleagues advocate for more attention to these issues, urging those affected to take precautions such as showering immediately after exposure to potentially contaminated areas.

A caller brings up a significant point about polymers that were discussed in a Vanity Fair article, which explored their connection to Gulf War Syndrome through experimental anthrax vaccines. This discussion highlights concerns that similar substances could be used in sprays over civilian populations.

William Thomas explains the potential for these substances to interact with weather modification technologies like HAARP or to be used in other military applications. He suggests that when polymers are combined with pathogens like Pseudomonas fluorescens—known to cause upper respiratory issues—they could be used to manipulate weather or potentially sicken populations. This could lead to heightened autoimmune responses, especially in individuals with already weakened immune systems, resulting in an increase in autoimmune diseases.

The conversation also addresses the lack of transparency and potential misinformation provided by authorities like the FAA, which contributes to public distrust and anxiety. The speculation extends to the idea that these operations might be a form of population control or a method to suppress potential civil unrest, particularly in the context of the then-approaching Y2K concerns.

As the program nears its conclusion, Thomas emphasizes the importance of continued research and testing to understand the full scope of what is being found in samples collected from affected areas. He expresses hope that increased awareness and investigation will lead to greater understanding and potentially reveal the true purpose behind these mysterious activities.