Art begins the show with excitement, hinting at a mind-blowing revelation in the next hour. He recalls a previous guest, Ed Dames, who investigated rods and described them as a life form coexisting with humans. Art shares his amazement after watching a videotape by José Escamilla, who has been studying rods for a long time. José will join the show to discuss his findings, and Art urges listeners to visit his website to watch the streaming video of rods. As the conversation continues, José explains his background and how he stumbled upon rods while filming UFO activity in Roswell, New Mexico. He describes how these flying snake-like creatures, unlike any known insect or bird, intrigued him.
José Escamilla continues discussing his discovery, describing rods as resembling flying snakes, which he initially detected in Roswell, New Mexico. These entities, visible to the naked eye, often get mistaken for insects or birds. Extensive research shows they exist in various environments, including oceans, skies, and homes. José shares that Ed Dames confirmed rods as living organisms coexisting with humans. José’s website features high-definition photos and videos of rods, revealing their rapid movement, sometimes reaching hundreds of miles per hour, and their ability to hover. Recent footage from Mexicali, Mexico, shows rods stopping momentarily before resuming flight. Over the past five years, José, along with a team of specialists, has extensively studied rods, discovering two types: straight rods and newer ones with undulating membranes, similar to cuttlefish, which they use to propel themselves. This new understanding suggests that rods swim through the air rather than fly.
José elaborates on rods, explaining they can traverse both water and air effortlessly. They might even go through the earth and human beings, though this is likely an optical illusion caused by their translucent nature. He recounts a specific incident where a rod appeared to pass through a woman’s head, but closer inspection revealed it moved in front of her face. José emphasizes the rods’ incredible agility, noting one rod maneuvered around a boy without contact, demonstrating intelligence and speed. Initially mistaken for insects or birds, further research and professional scrutiny revealed their distinctiveness. Even skeptics like Philip Glass acknowledged the phenomenon’s authenticity. Art encourages listeners to watch the streaming video on his website to witness the rods themselves, underscoring the significance of this discovery.
José explains a technique developed by John Bro to capture rods by shooting into the sun, hiding its corona. This method has produced remarkable footage, some even showing rods inside apartments. He mentions producing “Rod 3” and another video called “Sky Monsters,” which includes footage of rods and other unusual entities. José addresses the possibility that some rod footage might appear mechanical, resembling advanced aircraft, but insists many captured images show rods with their characteristic undulating membranes. Art encourages listeners to watch the streaming video and share their reactions. José notes the pervasive nature of rods, suggesting they exist in close proximity to humans and have likely been around for thousands of years, evidenced by ancient cave drawings. He highlights an extraordinary underwater rod video captured by National Geographic in the Yucatan Peninsula, further proving their existence in multiple environments.
José emphasizes that rods are a form of life not yet fully understood by scientists. He shares a remarkable video of a rod filmed underwater by National Geographic, demonstrating their existence beyond the terrestrial environment. Art inquires about the intelligence of rods, and José speculates they might possess a level of intelligence comparable to birds or insects, given their agility and speed. José mentions an intriguing incident where a cat was filmed leaping at a rod, suggesting animals can perceive them. He underscores the rods’ metabolic rate, implying their biology might hold secrets beneficial to human health. José calls for further scientific investigation, suggesting institutions like NASA and MIT should get involved. He highlights a cave in Mexico as a potential hotspot for rods, where they are frequently observed, indicating a consistent habitat. This cave, a vertical sinkhole, presents an ideal location for further study, but José notes the challenge of securing funding for such expeditions.
José discusses the financial and logistical challenges of conducting a scientific expedition to study rods, including the need for high-speed cameras and other specialized equipment. Despite presenting undeniable evidence of rods, securing funding has been difficult, as organizations like National Geographic only fund accredited researchers. José emphasizes the importance of studying rods, which coexist with humans and might have significant implications for science and health. He describes the potential revolutionary discoveries that could be made with proper funding and credible scientists. Art highlights the mystery surrounding rods, noting their pervasive presence and the lack of knowledge about their impact on humans. José explains that capturing a rod would require trial and error, as their nature is still largely unknown. Art invites listeners to watch the streaming video on his website, showing evidence of rods, and encourages those who have seen it to call in and share their observations.
José answers a question from a listener, confirming that rods are seen both outdoors and indoors, although indoor sightings are more recent. Art inquires about the possibility of rods breaking the sound barrier, and José confirms that rods do make a snapping sound, recorded in his video evidence.
Another listener describes the rods’ behavior as almost playful, noting their interaction with people in the videos. José explains that rods appear around people not because of music or attraction, but possibly due to the environment or lighting. He recounts a specific incident in Mexicali, where rods were captured on video around mariachi performers under bright halogen lights. Interestingly, the burning rods emitted a smell similar to cooking meat rather than the foul odor typical of burning insects. Art and José humorously speculate about the smell, with Art jokingly suggesting vampire rods.
A listener asks about the rods’ colors, and José confirms they come in various hues, including yellow, green, orange, red, brown, and white. The discussion then turns to the rods’ diet, as their high energy levels suggest they must consume something. José acknowledges this unknown aspect, suggesting rods must eat something small and light to sustain their energy.
José reveals that rods have been observed connecting and disconnecting, suggesting possible interactions or even mating behavior. He compares the significance of presenting live rod footage to the famous “War of the Worlds” broadcast, emphasizing the groundbreaking nature of this real phenomenon. When asked about the size of rods, José shares that the largest rod observed was about 200 feet long, partially obscured by clouds, and traveling at incredible speeds. Some rods are translucent, allowing light to pass through, but their internal structure remains unclear. Critics often mistake them for insects, but evidence supports their unique existence.
A listener from Portland mentions that seeing the video of rods brought back memories of glimpsing them out of the corner of his eye. José suggests rods might have a physical or optical property that makes them difficult to see in daily life, akin to an “invisible invasion.” Despite their pervasive presence, people often overlook them. Another listener questions why rods don’t appear on mainstream streaming videos if they are real. José responds that rods have been seen on various videos, even on major networks, though they are often unnoticed due to their elusive nature.
José discusses the difficulty in capturing rods on streaming video, as these creatures move incredibly fast, often appearing in just a few frames per second. He suggests viewers examine home videos frame by frame to spot rods. He describes rods as swimming through the atmosphere rather than flying, due to their undulating membrane and lightweight bodies, possibly perceiving air like water. José references a National Geographic underwater footage of a rod-like object, indicating rods might adapt to various mediums.
Art prepares to open the phone lines for listeners who have seen the streaming video, encouraging them to share their impressions. A listener from Portland mentions that seeing the rods on video reminded them of glimpsing these creatures peripherally. José notes that while people often overlook rods, their elusive nature might be due to their physical properties. Another listener questions why rods don’t appear in mainstream streaming videos. José explains that rods have been seen on various videos, but their speed and translucency make them easy to miss.
Art prompts a caller to discuss their skepticism about the authenticity of rods, given the potential for video manipulation. José, an experienced editor, is prepared to address this concern, emphasizing the thoroughness of his investigation and the reality of rods.
José emphasizes his thorough approach to verifying rod footage, ensuring it’s not manipulated or misrepresented. He developed a protocol for capturing rods on video, involving multiple sources and perspectives to eliminate the possibility of hoaxing. José details tests using high-speed cameras to debunk claims that rods are merely video artifacts. These tests, including shooting arrows to simulate rod-like motion, confirm the authenticity of the footage.
Art asks about physical remains of rods, and José mentions that while there are no confirmed specimens, it’s possible some exist misidentified in laboratories or museums. He recounts an incident in Mexicali where rods, mistaken for insects, were discarded.
A caller, Susan from Portland, discusses her observations of the rod footage, noting that birds chase rods while humans often don’t notice them, even when rods fly very close. José explains this phenomenon with examples from various videos, highlighting the difficulty humans have in perceiving these fast-moving creatures. He also mentions upcoming footage of a cat reacting to a rod, supporting the idea that animals are more attuned to these entities.
José continues to share the various challenges and steps taken to validate the existence of rods, emphasizing that he’s not trying to fool the public but present genuine evidence. He mentions that other people have replicated his findings using the sky vision protocol. José details an experiment where they used high-speed cameras and crossbows to test if rods were artifacts, concluding they are not.
Art and José discuss the lack of physical remains of rods. José mentions an incident where something hit his windshield, leaving a trace but no blood or feathers, suggesting it could have been a rod. They note how difficult it is to identify species from windshield impacts.
A caller from North Carolina shares his experience of filming the sky and noticing a rod during winter, validating José’s findings. José invites listeners to send their footage for review. They emphasize the importance of further scientific investigation and funding, noting the significance of discovering a new species coexisting with humans.
José mentions the initial challenge of associating rods with Roswell, New Mexico, which some might dismiss due to its UFO associations. Despite this, the scientific interest and evidence continue to grow, pushing for more comprehensive studies.
Art and José discuss the widespread presence of rods, likening them to common insects or birds. Jonathan from Austin, Texas, calls in, expressing gratitude for the information shared. He asks about the visibility of rods in real life versus video. José explains that once people know what to look for, they can distinguish rods with the naked eye, though they are often dismissed as insects.
Fritz from Phoenix calls in, praising José’s work and suggesting a mental connection with rods. José recounts his attempt to scientifically name rods “sky fish” and describes an experience where mentally focusing on this name seemed to attract rods. He suggests that humans might have an emotional connection with these creatures, similar to interactions with pets.
Art emphasizes the significance of discovering a new species coexisting with humans, noting that proving the existence of rods could be Nobel Prize-worthy. He encourages academics and scientists to take the evidence seriously and investigate further. Art and José invite listeners who have seen the streaming video to call in and share their impressions, aiming to provide a broader understanding of the phenomenon.
A listener from Anchorage, Alaska, compares rods to something Leonardo da Vinci might have invented, describing their movement as similar to a manta ray with additional wings. They speculate about rods possibly arriving with an asteroid impact. Art and José then discuss different cultural interpretations of rods, with José recounting a Native American perspective where rods are seen as spiritual entities. A friend of José’s, a Sioux spiritual leader, believes rods emerged from an interdimensional collapse, with different colors representing prayers, thoughts, and unknown phenomena.
Claire Max, a cartoonist and animator, calls in to praise José’s dedication and expresses frustration that the scientific community isn’t more engaged with the rod phenomenon. She emphasizes the need to understand rods’ purposes and interactions with humans. Art reiterates the potential significance of rods, noting their Nobel Prize-worthy implications.
Another caller, from Reading, Phoenix, raises questions about rods appearing to pass through a man’s head in a video. José clarifies that the rod moved in a semicircle in front of the person, not through them. He also corrects the misconception that rods are rarely seen together, stating that footage exists showing multiple rods simultaneously.
José explains that rods are often seen in large numbers, resembling swarms falling from the sky. While they are generally not predatory, a man from Ohio claims to have footage showing predatory behavior. Eric from Eau Claire, Wisconsin, asks if rods interact with the atmosphere, such as reacting to wind. José mentions footage of rods moving against a tornado, indicating they are not affected by wind.
Posy Gilbert from Brooklyn recalls hearing about rods and sky creatures from Jeffrey Trevor James Constable and shares his own experiences of capturing rods on video while filming UFOs. He initially thought they were bugs due to their speed but later realized they were something different. Posy connects rods with UFOs, ghosts, and human souls, suggesting a broader interdimensional or spiritual significance.
Robert from Los Angeles discusses his observations of rods, noting different types, including solid ones and those made of light. He describes how slowing down video footage reveals rods with fins, resembling fish, and emphasizes the variety in their appearance and behavior. José continues to encourage people to send their footage and theories to help build a more comprehensive understanding of rods.
José reiterates the different environments where rods have been captured, from underwater to homes, emphasizing the ongoing effort to identify this phenomenon. He strongly believes that rods are living creatures based on their behaviors, such as narrowly avoiding obstacles and moving with purpose. Linda from Houston observes different forms of rods, comparing them to arrows and fish, suggesting there might be various subspecies. José confirms that different forms and movements suggest the existence of multiple species.
Art reflects on the challenge rods present to our understanding, urging those with an open mind to consider the evidence seriously. A listener recalls a report of a shuttle astronaut encountering a rod-like creature in space. José confirms that astronaut Story Musgrave reported seeing and photographing such an entity. Additionally, he mentions footage from the STS-48 shuttle mission showing rod-like objects entering Earth’s atmosphere at high speeds. José connects this with past incidents, like the TWA disaster, where similar rod-like objects were observed, hinting at the widespread and mysterious nature of these creatures.
José discusses the mysterious nature of rods, mentioning their ability to enter and emerge from the ocean, as seen in footage from Long Island Sound. He responds humorously to a comment suggesting rods are “sperm of the gods,” acknowledging the wide range of theories about their origin.
A caller asks if rods can move through the earth. José clarifies that while it appears rods might skim the earth’s surface, there’s no solid evidence they penetrate it. He discusses the possibility that rods move so quickly they seem to disappear, sharing a cautious approach to presenting such phenomena to the scientific community.
José mentions a “gray basket” of unexplainable rod footage, including instances where rods seem to emerge from nowhere or move behind objects. He hasn’t widely shared these clips to avoid speculative conclusions without repeatable evidence.
Art reads a humorous query from an opera singer about what would happen if someone accidentally swallowed a rod while singing, leading to jokes about unexpected high notes.
Bobby from Berkeley shares his experience capturing rods on video at a high school reunion. He describes a rod entering the frame, curving around a person, and exiting in just four frames, highlighting the rods’ rapid movements and elusive nature.
José responds to a caller who mentions capturing a rod that looked like a six-inch firefly. He confirms that his next video will compare rods with insects and dragonflies to show the distinct differences, part of his effort to scientifically isolate rods from known creatures. A listener from San Diego describes rods as stretched-out jellyfish and expresses amazement at their size, suggesting they fill an ecological niche we haven’t yet identified.
José recounts how Edward Lopez from New York spotted rods in National Geographic footage of gorillas, demonstrating that rods are often mistaken for insects. This supports the theory that rods have been present and unnoticed for decades. He acknowledges that early in his research, he thought rods could pass through solid matter, but further study suggested they move so quickly they give the illusion of doing so.
Dennis from Lexington, Kentucky, raises the idea that rods might resemble vibrating strings, connecting to the string theory in physics. José agrees that theoretical physics could provide an explanation for rods, acknowledging the complexity and potential scale of these phenomena.
José addresses a caller’s speculation that rods might be strings or some form of atomic structure, which he finds plausible given their behavior and interactions with their environment. Another caller suggests that rods might be attracted to electromagnetic forces emitted by living beings but repelled upon close proximity, which could explain their near-misses with objects and people.
José recounts military footage from Sweden showing rods chasing tank shells, suggesting they might be attracted to certain frequencies or lights. He reiterates the need for further study to understand their nature and behavior fully.
Bud Z from Portland comments on the intelligence of rods, referencing a video where a rod avoids a boy’s hand, implying some level of anticipatory behavior. José agrees, noting the rod’s precise movement to avoid collision.
A caller compares the rods’ agility to a cheetah’s movements, emphasizing the natural ability of organisms to make split-second adjustments. José shares footage of a swallow chasing a rod, demonstrating the incredible speed and agility of both creatures.
Art reminds listeners of José’s email address for those with information or footage to share, encouraging continued investigation and discussion about these mysterious entities.
José and Art conclude the segment by reiterating the intriguing nature of rods and the need for further investigation. They highlight the various theories about rods’ origins and behavior, ranging from biological entities to potential connections with theoretical physics. Art reminds listeners to send any relevant footage or information to José’s email, emphasizing the importance of collective effort in understanding this phenomenon.