Art Bell welcomes listeners to a broadcast of “Coast to Coast AM” from May 26th, 1999, describing his friend Terence McKenna’s grave illness in Hawaii. Art requests any information from listeners who might have contacts in Honolulu. The show features Peter Gersten, attorney and director of Citizens Against UFO Secrecy, and later Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove. Art mentions an important announcement about a personal crisis to be discussed on the next night’s program. He recounts a significant UFO sighting, providing affidavits to Gersten, who confirms receipt and expresses gratitude. They discuss the peculiarity of people watching a five-hour radio show via streaming video, despite the oddity of doing so. Gersten mentions an ongoing lawsuit against the Department of Defense regarding flying triangles, highlighting the uniqueness and secrecy of these objects.
Art and Peter Gersten discuss the Department of Defense’s refusal to provide information about a unique flying triangle object, which Peter believes the DoD should have data on. They speculate whether the DoD is lying or genuinely unaware of the object, which is unsettling. The DoD’s attorney has moved to prohibit discovery in their case, aiming to dismiss it without the usual processes. This suggests either fear or an attempt to deny rights to Peter’s organization, CAUSE. Peter plans to challenge this by submitting interrogatories and potentially deposing Dr. Steven Greer, who claims to have 200 witnesses with information on government UFO secrets. Peter has struggled to get cooperation from Dr. Greer, who has been too busy to assist, but Peter intends to pursue this further to uncover the truth about the flying triangles.
Peter Gersten elaborates on the challenges of proving that the Department of Defense (DoD) has information on a flying triangle object, despite having affidavits establishing its existence. He discusses the difficulty of proving the DoD’s knowledge without direct evidence, as the Freedom of Information Act only mandates a reasonable search, not an exhaustive one. They speculate on whether the DoD can lie about classified information and how to prove such deception. Peter also shares his experiences with the FBI and CIA denying having any documents on alien abductions, despite evidence of human experimentation and civil rights violations. He expresses frustration with the lack of investigation into these reports by the agencies and the challenges in uncovering hidden information.
Peter Gersten recounts his attempts to gather evidence by providing the Department of Defense (DoD) with detailed sketches and descriptions of the flying triangles and abduction scenarios, akin to criminal acts. Art Bell reiterates his request for information on Terence McKenna’s health, urging listeners to contact him if they have direct information. The conversation shifts to discussing how appearing on streaming video hasn’t affected Art’s behavior or attire, though he jokes about stopping certain habits. They then explore the possibility of government biological experiments on citizens, with Peter considering a Freedom of Information request to check if the DoD notified states about such activities. They reflect on humanity’s unique relationship with technology, speculating on its impact on our evolution and current reality.
Peter Gersten and Art Bell discuss the sudden technological advancements since 1947, speculating whether they were a natural evolution or due to some external influence. Peter suggests that humanity’s spiritual and emotional development hasn’t kept pace with technological progress, leading to societal and environmental disharmony. They consider the idea that an advanced technology or life form introduced in the 1940s has disrupted the natural progression, likening it to a virus. Art shares his experience of witnessing a large, silent, floating triangle, questioning whether it was human technology or something else. They ponder if the government is aware of such phenomena but is powerless to address them, resulting in secrecy and denial.
Peter Gersten and Art Bell discuss the reluctance of governments to disclose evidence of phenomena they can’t control, such as UFOs or abductions. Peter urges people with evidence to support CAUSE (Citizens Against UFO Secrecy) by providing affidavits, videos, or photos, emphasizing the need for integrity and courage in coming forward. He explains the methods for contacting him, including the CAUSE website, email, mail, and phone. Peter also mentions the CAUSE newsletter, which offers updates for those without internet access. The conversation highlights the importance of transparency and the need to uncover the truth, with Peter expressing his determination to pursue the matter through all available channels, including potential extrajudicial actions to raise public awareness.
Art Bell thanks Peter Gersten and transitions to introducing Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove, emphasizing his contributions to discussions on the paranormal, consciousness, and the mind. Art updates listeners on Terence McKenna’s condition, expressing concern and seeking confirmation from a spokesperson. He announces a significant upcoming program addressing recent personal events, urging listeners not to miss it. Dr. Mishlove, known for his work on the television series “Thinking Aloud” and author of “The Roots of Consciousness,” joins Art to discuss various topics related to parapsychology and intuitive skills. Dr. Mishlove holds a unique doctoral diploma in parapsychology from UC Berkeley and has been involved in numerous organizations and educational initiatives focused on consciousness and intuition.
Art Bell and Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove discuss the power of mass consciousness and prayer, acknowledging its tangible effects on physical, mental, and health-related issues. Art expresses his uncertainty about the source of this power, while Dr. Mishlove suggests it might stem from a divine spark within each individual, describing humans as “gods in the making.” They explore the idea that different religious beliefs and names for the divine might all point to the same ultimate reality, highlighting the ineffable nature of this power. They also touch on quantum physics as a possible explanation for these phenomena, citing research showing that mass focus can affect quantum mechanical devices. Dr. Mishlove supports the idea of using collective consciousness to aid Terence McKenna, emphasizing the potential impact of focused attention. They delve into the Big Bang theory and the mystery of what preceded it, with Dr. Mishlove suggesting that the pre-Big Bang vacuum state is a realm of infinite possibility, which might be where we encounter the divine. Dr. Mishlove identifies as following a path of intuition and universal spirituality, beyond any single religious tradition.
Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove responds to Art Bell’s question about whether the God of the Bible is behind all that we know by suggesting that the divine manifests in many forms, transcending any single religious text. He emphasizes that every sacred text and living being is an expression of the divine. They discuss the origins and expansion of the universe, with Dr. Mishlove advocating for humility in acknowledging our limited understanding. Art shares a CNN story about the universe expanding forever, which would eventually isolate humanity in a cold, dark cosmos. They touch on the idea of creation, with both agreeing that a creation force exists, whether it remains with us or within us.
Art then reads an alarming article about cancerous tumors found in Lake Michigan’s zooplankton, raising concerns about environmental health. Dr. Mishlove returns to the discussion, and Art recalls a previous guest’s remark that reality might be infected with a virus, which he has been pondering.
Art Bell and Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove discuss the alarming discovery of cancerous tumors in Lake Michigan’s zooplankton, emphasizing the critical role plankton play in the food chain and the potential catastrophic impact on humanity if they were to disappear. They explore the idea that since 1945, a significant shift has occurred in human reality, marked by the development of atomic weapons and the capacity for self-destruction. This shift is described metaphorically as a virus affecting humanity, with parallels drawn to bacteria and viruses as Earth’s original inhabitants.
The conversation touches on humanity’s behavior and its failure to integrate harmoniously with the ecosystem, highlighting the species’ short-term thinking. They consider the potential for collective consciousness to effect positive change, suggesting that focused attention from millions of people could create a better world. Despite the negative environmental trends and the dire news about plankton, Dr. Mishlove remains cautiously optimistic about the power of focused attention to bring about change.
Art then inquires about Dr. Mishlove’s unique doctoral degree in parapsychology from UC Berkeley, leading Dr. Mishlove to explain how he created an interdisciplinary doctoral major that combined various fields, guided by his dreams and a desire to study the positive aspects of human behavior rather than negative ones.
Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove discusses the idea of invisible help available to individuals striving to improve their lives, linking it to a broader connection with the universe’s consciousness. Art Bell shifts the conversation to extraterrestrial or extradimensional beings visiting Earth. Dr. Mishlove believes in the likelihood of such visits, suggesting a shared consciousness between humans and these beings. He references Ted Owens, who claimed to be half-human and half-alien, and performed extraordinary feats, like predicting a UFO sighting over San Francisco that was witnessed and photographed as predicted.
Art expresses skepticism about whether such phenomena are external or products of the human mind, drawing parallels to the “Forbidden Planet” movie where manifestations came from a scientist’s mind. They contemplate the nature of reality and humanity, considering the possibility that UFOs might be artifacts of human consciousness. Dr. Mishlove also entertains the idea that these beings could be humans from the future.
Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove and Art Bell explore the concept of invisible help and the interconnectedness of all living beings and the universe’s consciousness. They discuss whether humans are being visited by extraterrestrial or extradimensional beings, with Dr. Mishlove suggesting a shared consciousness with these entities. He mentions Ted Owens, who claimed to be half-human and half-alien, as an example of extraordinary feats potentially linked to this connection.
The conversation shifts to the nature of internal versus external worlds. Dr. Mishlove notes that he has started to view the world of finance and commerce as a reflection of the collective mind, much like a yoga ashram. They discuss the stock market as an indicator of the collective psyche, noting its recent highs and the varying perspectives on its sustainability. Dr. Mishlove admits to paying more attention to the stock market recently, finding that it teaches him about his own inner world. They touch on the idea of irrational exuberance and the potential for significant market corrections, highlighting the complexity and unpredictability of financial markets.
Art Bell and Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove delve into the nature of good and evil, with Dr. Mishlove suggesting that these concepts are more internal aspects of human nature rather than external entities like God or Satan. He references the Zoroastrian religion’s duality of good and evil but ultimately views the universe as a whole, where what we perceive as evil may often be unskillful behavior or stupidity. They discuss the disturbing trend of youth violence, exemplified by school shootings, and its potential causes, including social alienation and media influence. Despite overall violent crime decreasing, youth violence appears to be rising, suggesting a deeper societal issue.
Dr. Mishlove criticizes the media’s focus on sensational stories over more significant, gradual environmental crises, such as the decline of plankton and coral reefs. He points out that human brains are wired to respond to immediate threats rather than slow, incremental changes, which might be why crucial environmental issues don’t receive the attention they deserve. They conclude that unless this focus changes, humanity might face severe consequences from overlooked gradual changes like climate shifts or ecological collapses.
Art Bell and Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove discuss the potential for using the focused attention of Art’s audience to create positive change, while also addressing Art’s concerns about the godlike nature of such endeavors. Dr. Mishlove advises Art to heed his fears and intuitions, suggesting that careful consideration and seeking guidance can help him navigate these efforts responsibly. Art shares his apprehensions about the unintended consequences of his actions and acknowledges the need to better understand the implications.
The conversation shifts to the parallels between paying attention to the stock market and broader societal issues, highlighting the importance of thoughtful deliberation. Dr. Mishlove encourages Art to take his time in contemplating how to move forward with harnessing collective focus for positive outcomes.
Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove discusses the importance of individuals contemplating humanity’s destiny and final goals, agreeing with Pope John Paul II’s reflections on these topics. He shares his perspective of self-awareness as the ultimate goal, suggesting that understanding the vastness of our minds and powers is crucial. As the phone lines open for listener questions, one caller asks about the concept of God as a universal justice dispenser. Dr. Mishlove responds that human justice is likely very different from divine justice, noting the limited nature of human perspective compared to a being capable of creating galaxies.
Another caller inquires about the technological advancement of extraterrestrials. Dr. Mishlove speculates that there could be civilizations billions of years ahead of us, potentially organized in a galactic federation. He mentions the possibility of extraterrestrials working with humans to some extent but doubts this occurs at the government level. When asked about underground bases, Dr. Mishlove suggests that extraterrestrials might operate through other dimensions, making physical bases less relevant.
Art Bell shares his skepticism about extraterrestrial visits to Earth and the specific God of the Bible, emphasizing his need for absolute evidence before fully believing in such entities. Dr. Mishlove acknowledges Art’s agnosticism and suggests that it’s a reasonable stance given the complexity and mystery surrounding these topics.
Art Bell and Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove continue their discussion, addressing a caller’s question about the struggle of good and evil, and how various religious texts, including the Bible and the Bhagavad Gita, present these concepts. Dr. Mishlove suggests that human interpretations of good and evil are limited compared to a divine perspective, emphasizing the complexity of divine justice. He discusses how different traditions view accountability and responsibility, highlighting the importance of taking personal responsibility for one’s actions.
Dr. Mishlove also touches on the near-death experience research, describing how individuals reportedly relive their entire lives in great detail, experiencing the joy and pain they caused others. He uses this to illustrate a form of ultimate justice, suggesting even historical figures like Hitler would face the consequences of their actions in the afterlife.
The conversation shifts to the paradoxes in religious teachings. Dr. Mishlove references the Bhagavad Gita, where the god Krishna tells the warrior Arjuna to fulfill his duty without worrying about the moral implications, as life and death are under divine control. This contrasts with the New Age movement’s emphasis on personal responsibility and environmental stewardship. Dr. Mishlove acknowledges that different cultures and religions provide various perspectives on how to balance action and surrender to divine will.
Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove and Art Bell address the increasing prevalence of attention deficit disorder (ADD) among youth, contrasting it with their own childhood experiences where such diagnoses were rare. They discuss potential causes, including environmental factors, media influence, and dietary changes, suggesting that the rise in ADD might be contributing to the troubling behavior seen in some young people.
As they return from a break, Art mentions having received concrete information about Terence McKenna’s condition. Don Silverstein, whose daughter lives with Terence, explains that Terence had seizures on Saturday, leading to cardiac arrest and subsequent resuscitation by a motorist. Terence was taken to a hospital in Kona and then airlifted to Honolulu, where tests revealed a glioblastoma multiforme, an aggressive brain tumor. Despite undergoing exploratory surgery and being given a prognosis of six to twelve months, Terence remains conscious, joking with friends and accepting his situation with composure.
Art Bell continues the conversation with Don Silverstein, who provides detailed information about Terence McKenna’s health condition. Terence experienced seizures and cardiac arrest, leading to his hospitalization and diagnosis with a glioblastoma multiforme, an aggressive brain tumor. Don shares that Terence underwent exploratory surgery and is currently deciding between different treatment options, balancing the quality and quantity of life. He notes that Terence is staying positive, joking with friends, and accepting his prognosis.
Don expresses gratitude for the prayers and spiritual support from listeners, mentioning that Terence values these well-wishes. Art offers his condolences and support, planning to arrange a repeat broadcast of Terence’s previous interview and expressing hope that Terence will return to the air if his health permits.
Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove re-enters the conversation, reflecting on the challenging situation. He begins to share a story that might provide some insight into coping with such difficulties, indicating the importance of hope and resilience in the face of adversity.
Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove recounts a story about a visual artist named Lynn Hershman Leeson who was diagnosed with a brain tumor and faced a potential surgery that would almost certainly cause blindness. She met Dr. Barry Grundland, a shaman, who guided her through visualization exercises. After six weeks of this work, her tumor vanished and did not return. Dr. Mishlove suggests that Terence McKenna, given his mental focus and attention, might still have potential for recovery despite his grim prognosis.
They discuss Terence’s decision to opt for quantity of life over quality, pondering the reasons behind this choice. Art Bell recalls instances where public support, like sending postcards to a sick child, resulted in miraculous recoveries, hinting at the power of collective positive intention.
Dr. Mishlove plugs his website, mentioning his involvement in various activities, including a planned tour to Egypt’s sacred sites. A caller expresses well-wishes for Terence and asks about the possibility of detecting people who might travel back in time. Dr. Mishlove admits the complexity of such questions but shares his interest in precognition and prophecy, suggesting limited potential for knowing the future.
Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove continues his discussion with Art Bell and a caller, who brings up the importance of discriminating between healing practices that can truly help humans and those that are merely spiritual entertainment. The caller emphasizes that mystics often teach that the ego is the root cause of human sorrow, and by ending the ego, one can achieve a state of infinite, eternal self-awareness and peace. The caller warns against distractions that prevent this transformation, noting that even pursuits like extrasensory perception can be distractions.
Dr. Mishlove addresses the paradoxical nature of transformation, suggesting that while mystics say there is nothing to transform because we are already enlightened, the illusion of the ego must end. He acknowledges that distractions can hinder this process but also points out that some traditions, like Tantric practices, view sensory experiences and psychic phenomena as beneficial if approached correctly.
Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove elaborates on the necessity of cultivating a healthy ego for mastering the physical plane. He recalls his mentor, Arthur Young, who emphasized the importance of ego in achieving mastery, suggesting that many people might not have adequately developed this aspect despite appearing egotistical. This idea diverges from traditional spiritual teachings that often focus on diminishing the ego to reach enlightenment.
The caller suggests examining the extensive written records of various spiritual traditions to understand the consensus on ending human sorrow. Dr. Mishlove acknowledges the value in exploring these traditions but highlights the evolving nature of spiritual understanding, emphasizing continuous learning and transcending established teachings.
They discuss the notion that paranormal pursuits can be distractions from spiritual goals. Dr. Mishlove acknowledges that while such pursuits can be distractions, they can also be valuable within certain traditions, like Tibetan Buddhism and Tantric practices. He agrees that the ego was never truly present, thus eliminating it can lead to a deeper understanding of the self.
Art Bell reflects on the possibility that studying psychic phenomena might distract from spiritual paths. Dr. Mishlove concurs that it can be the case, noting that while some people might get sidetracked, others integrate these experiences meaningfully into their spiritual journeys.
A caller expresses concern about the rise of youth violence, highlighting its multifaceted nature and criticizing simplistic explanations. She points out that many of the perpetrators were white males who felt persecuted and were unable to express their emotional or spiritual selves. This isolation and inability to cope with emotional pain led to suicidal and violent behaviors. The caller also criticizes societal reactions that further isolate these individuals, exacerbating the problem.
Dr. Mishlove acknowledges the importance of compassion and love as the highest psychic gifts, emphasizing their healing power. He reflects on Terence McKenna’s articulate and insightful nature, expressing his own wishes for Terence’s recovery.
Art Bell concludes the segment by urging listeners to participate in a mass concentration experiment to help Terence. He encourages them to visualize Terence’s tumor shrinking, sending light, warmth, love, and healing thoughts. Art promises to provide more details on this effort in the coming days, emphasizing the importance of collective positive intention.