2001-04-30 – David Wilcock, Dr. Scott Mandelker – Phenomenon of ET Identity

Show: Coast To Coast AM

Air Date: April 30, 2001

Guest(s): David Wilcock, Dr. Scott Mandelker

Topic(s): Phenomenon of ET Identity

rt Bell begins his radio show “Coast to Coast AM” with a discussion on the intriguing phenomenon of ET identity, joined by guests Dr. Scott Mandelker and David Wilcock. The focus of the episode, titled “The Time of Global Shift,” delves into significant changes anticipated on a global scale, which the guests argue could influence our understanding of the universe and our place within it. Art also humorously addresses a local radio contest in Cleveland, where he urges listeners to vote against Rick Gilmore by voting him as the weakest link to indirectly support Art himself.

Dr. Scott Mandelker and David Wilcock explore the energetic shifts happening throughout the solar system, suggesting that these shifts are influenced by the solar system’s movement into a more energetically charged area of the galaxy. They discuss the scientific and spiritual implications of these changes, drawing connections to ancient prophecies, modern UFO visitations, and the concept of ET souls. The discussion takes a deep dive into metaphysics with a focus on how Earth and other celestial bodies, like the sun, possess a form of consciousness.

In this segment of “Coast to Coast AM,” the conversation shifts to a discussion about the metaphysical aspects of the sun and its interactions with Earth. Art Bell and his guests, Dr. Scott Mandelker and David Wilcock, contemplate the idea that the sun, being a conscious entity, chooses not to unleash its full energetic potential on Earth until it is ready to absorb and assimilate such intense energy. They speculate about a future where the Earth undergoes an “energetic transmutation” which is part of the “shift of the ages,” suggesting profound implications for humanity.

They also touch on how different cultures and spiritual views might interpret these cosmic interactions, with Dr. Mandelker explaining the universal consciousness that encompasses all beings, suggesting that both the sun and the Earth possess a level of consciousness similar to humans. This leads to a broader discussion on the potential physical and spiritual impact of the global shift, with Dr. Mandelker indicating that a significant portion of humanity may not survive the transition in their current physical form due to the intense changes.

Art Bell and his guests delve further into the concept of global and cosmic shifts, linking physical transformations with metaphysical theories. They discuss how the physical human body may not maintain its current form and introduce the concept of “fourth density,” a metaphysical term describing Earth’s next evolutionary stage associated with the heart chakra, symbolizing a shift towards a state of love and higher consciousness.

The conversation then takes a personal turn as Art Bell recounts his own profound out-of-body experience (OBE) during a trip to Paris. He describes an unexpected moment of immense joy and overwhelming sensation while floating above the city, illustrating the potential for human consciousness to transcend physical boundaries.

David Wilcock explains methods to achieve OBEs, emphasizing deep meditation and strong visualization to teleport consciousness to different locations. This practice draws from shamanic traditions, which claim to manipulate universal energy for spiritual and physical transcendence.

Further, Wilcock recounts historical anecdotes of individuals like Daniel Dunglas Home, who reportedly demonstrated extraordinary abilities such as levitation and manipulation of objects in scientifically unexplainable ways during the 19th century. These stories serve to illustrate the potential of human consciousness to exceed conventional physical limits.

The segment also touches on the mysterious occurrences within the Bermuda Triangle, linking these with electromagnetic anomalies and fluctuations in matter, energy, and consciousness. This is highlighted by the story of Charles Wakely, a pilot whose aircraft experienced drastic system failures and unusual luminous phenomena while flying through the Triangle, suggesting that certain geographic locations might be hotspots for such extraordinary events.

The discussion delves into the boundaries between physical reality and metaphysical phenomena, focusing on the mysteries of the Bermuda Triangle. Art Bell and his guests discuss how experiences like the anomalous encounter of pilot Charles Wakely might relate to a larger, global energetic shift. Wakely’s experience included a phase where intense light enveloped his aircraft, and all electronic instruments failed, but then normality gradually returned as the phenomena dissipated.

They also discuss another intriguing case from the Bermuda Triangle involving a Miami Airlines 727 jet that vanished from radar for ten minutes in 1971, only to reappear without having progressed in physical space. Upon landing, the crew was unaware of any anomaly, although their time indicators were uniformly ten minutes slow. This incident is used to speculate on the potential effects of energetic shifts on time and space, suggesting that what is experienced within the Bermuda Triangle might be a small-scale version of broader transformations the Earth might undergo during the theorized global shift.

Art Bell discusses the intriguing case of space tourism with the example of Dennis Tito, the first self-funded space tourist, emphasizing the novelty and exclusivity of such an expensive endeavor. The discussion transitions back to Art’s ongoing campaign in a radio contest where he humorously implores listeners to vote against Rick Gilmore, characterizing it as a battle between his “highly evolved minions” and Gilmore’s “evil minions.”

The conversation then shifts to more mysterious phenomena related to time slips and geographic anomalies. Art revisits the perplexing case of a National Airlines airliner that experienced a ten-minute time discrepancy after flying through the Bermuda Triangle. He introduces another enigmatic zone, the Devil’s Triangle off the coast of Japan, which like the Bermuda Triangle, is notorious for unexplained disappearances. Art recounts an incident from 1954 where a Japanese research ship, the Chi-Amato No. 5, vanished while investigating this area, leading the Japanese government to officially declare the Devil’s Sea a hazardous area.

The conversation turns to complex geometric and energetic theories involving Earth and other celestial bodies. The discussion explores how certain geometric configurations, specifically tetrahedrons within spheres, may be influencing activities on planets across the solar system. This theory extends to terrestrial phenomena like the Bermuda Triangle and the Devil’s Sea, suggesting that these areas might be points where high-energy vibrations from these geometric configurations interact with our physical dimension.

Art Bell and his guests delve into the idea of Platonic solids, a group of geometric figures that Plato theorized were fundamental in structuring the universe. These shapes, particularly when seen in crop circles, are proposed to signify the Earth responding to cosmic vibrations. This part of the conversation also references the works of Buckminster Fuller and other researchers who have studied the effects of vibrations on physical mediums like water, showing that certain frequencies can induce the formation of Platonic solids.

The discussion becomes even more esoteric with the mention of experiments on the consciousness of plants and human cells, suggesting a universe where even seemingly inanimate objects and individual cells might exhibit responses to emotional stimuli or environmental changes.

The focus shifts to the metaphysical implications of the energetic changes observed in the Earth and the Sun, along with increased natural disasters. The discussion delves into how these changes align with ancient prophecies and religious beliefs, suggesting a universal consciousness behind these phenomena. Dr. Scott Mandelker is introduced to expand on these metaphysical aspects, linking them to a broader understanding of shifts that could potentially affect the planet.

The show also covers the scientific side, with data on the increasing magnetic strength of the Sun and a rise in volcanic and seismic activity. It’s mentioned that since 1901, the Sun’s magnetic field strength has increased by 230%, with significant jumps since the 1960s. Similarly, volcanic activity has risen by over 500% since 1875, and earthquake severity has increased by 400% since 1975. These metrics are used to describe a phenomenon referred to as “the quickening,” which encompasses not only physical changes but also societal and economic shifts reflecting a broad deterioration in many aspects of human life.

These changes are theorized to be culminating towards a significant global event, underpinned by both scientific observations and metaphysical beliefs.

Dr. Scott Mandelker joins the discussion to delve deeper into the metaphysical implications of the energetic and physical transformations occurring within the solar system. He draws a connection between these changes, known as the quickening, and the consciousness of humanity. This encompasses both an increase in spiritual awareness and global cooperation, paralleling the observable physical phenomena.

The conversation also explores prophecies related to these changes, particularly focusing on the Mayan calendar, which predicts a significant transformation at the winter solstice of 2012. This date is seen as the end of a world cycle, corroborating with other sources from the channeled community which mark 2010 to 2013 as a period of potential “harvest” or “ascension.”

Mandelker further cites the “Law of One,” a series of books channeled in the 1980s, which discuss the planetary and human changes expected to occur as Earth moves into a higher vibrational state known as fourth density. This transition is associated with disruptions like volcanic activity, as the planet adjusts to align with new cosmic energies. The text stresses that the current dissonance in human consciousness over the last 75,000 years exacerbates these physical manifestations, suggesting a link between human spiritual state and global physical events.

The broader discussion implies that these changes are part of a cyclic event tied to the astronomical precession cycle of approximately 26,000 years, emphasizing that while the transformation might be turbulent, it also offers a potential for significant spiritual evolution for humanity.

Dr. Scott Mandelker and David Wilcock discuss the transformation into a new age, suggesting a shift from third dimensional life on Earth to a higher vibrational state by the year 2012, as indicated by various prophecies including the Mayan calendar. This

period is seen as a shift to fourth density, which is associated with a heightened state of consciousness characterized by love, compassion, and unity. Mandelker emphasizes that individuals embodying these qualities will be the ones to thrive during this transition.

Furthermore, the discussion touches on the concept of “Indigo Children,” who are said to possess innate higher-dimensional abilities. These children are believed to be the forerunners of humanity’s evolutionary leap, intuitively manifesting their thoughts and potentially living through the transition more smoothly due to their advanced spiritual and physical makeup.

The conversation also speculates on the world post-2012, envisioning it as a blend of high technology and spiritual awakening, with free energy and advanced technologies coexisting with a renewed emphasis on spiritual values. This new world would also include open interactions with other dimensional beings, reflecting an expanded consciousness among humanity.

Moreover, an increase in encounters with “shadow people” is discussed, noting a significant rise in reports of these beings, which correlates with the broader theme of a thinning veil between dimensions as humanity approaches this crucial juncture.

In this segment of “Coast to Coast AM,” the discussion explores the increasing visibility of shadow people and other entities, suggesting a thinning of the boundaries between physical and other dimensions. This phenomenon is linked to the broader metaphysical changes anticipated between 2010 and 2013, where humanity may experience heightened spiritual and psychic phenomena.

Dr. Scott Mandelker then delves into the metaphysics of the human soul and its journey. Drawing from both Eastern and Western spiritual traditions, he discusses the concepts of the human soul, higher self, and their eventual integration into a unified cosmic consciousness. He suggests that our higher self, or Atman, is temporarily eternal, playing a crucial role in our spiritual journey until it merges back into the infinite, transcending individual identity.

The conversation also addresses the integration of Eastern philosophies with Western spiritual views, particularly how the West is increasingly embracing concepts of cosmic unity and the spiritual implications of the UFO phenomenon. The dialogue covers the dual paths in cosmic polarity—service to others versus service to self—which reflect different evolutionary routes for souls.

Dr. Scott Mandelker and David Wilcock continue their discussion on the metaphysical concept of cosmic polarity, exploring the notion of positive and negative spiritual paths reflected across various cultures and traditions, including Buddhism and Hinduism. They touch on the representation of these paths with terms like ‘devas’ (benevolent beings) and ‘asuras’ (malevolent beings), correlating these with extraterrestrial contacts reported around the world.

The conversation shifts to the phenomenon of UFOs and crop circles, where the guests debate the origins and implications of these mysterious patterns. Mandelker suggests that the precision and complexity of crop circles are indicative of benevolent extraterrestrial intelligence, representing a non-intrusive form of communication that respects the free will of humanity while subtly signaling the presence of otherworldly beings. This idea ties back to the broader theme of a global shift in consciousness and the nearing end of a significant cycle, implying an impending transformation or awakening.

David Wilcock weighs in on the crop circles, agreeing that the sophistication of these formations goes beyond human capabilities and aligns with theories of external, benevolent guidance. He emphasizes that the consistent and intricate nature of crop circles serves as a gentle disclosure of other dimensions and intelligences, skirting the edges of direct interference with human affairs.

David Wilcock and Dr. Scott Mandelker explore the intricate details of how crop circles are formed, suggesting a complex interaction between extraterrestrial forces and natural elements. They discuss the scientific findings that crop circles are not merely flattened grass but involve precise alterations to the plants such as growth nodes being heated and bent in a way that allows them to continue growing. This points to the use of technologies beyond our current understanding, possibly involving microwave radiation and manipulation of water from underground sources to prevent the plants from burning.

The conversation also tackles the theory that crop circles might be messages from the Earth itself, reflecting a form of communication or distress signal from a living, conscious planet. However, Wilcock and Mandelker lean towards the involvement of benevolent extraterrestrial forces, suggesting that these entities are collaborating with Earth’s own consciousness in preparing humanity and the planet for an upcoming transformation.

This leads into a discussion on the nature of these extraterrestrial forces, linked to the concept of cosmic polarity. The positive and negative paths mentioned align with descriptions of extraterrestrial interactions—some benevolent, promoting healing and growth, and others malevolent, associated with abductions and fear.

Wilcock brings in the “Law of One” material, emphasizing its complex, insightful perspective on spiritual and cosmic laws, which he believes offers profound implications for understanding human and extraterrestrial existence.

The segment wraps up by addressing why Britain, more than other places, has such a high incidence of crop circles. It’s suggested that Britain’s location on a node of the Earth’s energy grid makes it a hotspot for such phenomena, where the available energy facilitates the creation of these intricate patterns.

David Wilcock discusses the characteristics of beings from different densities or dimensions, explaining that those from fourth or fifth densities typically use spacecraft, while beings from the sixth density might appear as points of light, which aligns with eyewitness reports of the entities observed creating crop circles.

The discussion also explores the metaphysical concept of densities, relating them to the chakra system in Eastern spiritual traditions. This comparison helps listeners understand how different levels of consciousness correspond to different densities. Wilcock and Mandelker discuss how beings progress through these dimensions based on their spiritual development, with higher densities corresponding to higher states of consciousness such as unity and enlightenment.

The topic shifts to the skepticism surrounding psychics and channeling, addressing concerns about the authenticity and reliability of such communications. They discuss the common issue in psychic readings where no one is told they are a “new soul,” which could indicate a bias or a tendency to flatter clients. This part of the discussion highlights the challenges in discerning genuine spiritual guidance from misinformation or self-serving claims.

Furthermore, they touch on the idea that the Earth and the messages possibly conveyed through phenomena like crop circles could be viewed as communications from a conscious, living Earth. This ties into broader discussions about the interconnectedness of all things and the potential for Earth to be coordinating with benevolent extraterrestrial forces to aid in humanity’s evolutionary jump.

The dialogue touches on historical anomalies recalled by individuals, such as alternative historical events—these memories suggest potential manipulations or fluctuations in the timeline. The discussion proposes that these anomalies might be linked to activities within higher dimensions affecting our perception of history and time.

David Wilcock brings in the concept of hyperdimensional physics, a theory suggesting that ancient civilizations like the Atlanteans and spiritual texts such as those from Hermes Trismegistus hint at a universe composed of multiple layers or spheres of existence. These layers correspond to different states of consciousness and realities, interlinked by esoteric and scientific principles like those found in the chakras and sound frequencies.

The conversation also explores the idea that the chakras are not just energy centers but are also interconnected with different planes of existence, each potentially corresponding to a different geometric form like the tetrahedron mentioned by Richard Hoagland. This geometry ties into the broader concept of time being structured and possibly malleable.

Wilcock and Art discuss how these ideas could relate to the concept of time travel, suggesting that time might have a more flexible, structured nature that could theoretically be influenced or navigated through advanced understanding of its geometric and vibrational properties. This leads into a broader discussion about whether significant events, like a global shift, could be altered through such knowledge and technology, contemplating the implications for humanity’s future.

In this segment of “Coast to Coast AM,” the discussion revolves around the significant date of December 22, 2012, which is described as a “black hole of timelines,” a point where various potential timelines converge into a singularity, representing a pivotal moment in cosmic and earthly evolution. This concept ties into metaphysical beliefs about a shift in the space-time continuum that could fundamentally alter human consciousness and reality.

The conversation explores the notion that extraterrestrial or multidimensional beings might have the ability to influence timelines to foster positive outcomes, using interventions like crop circles as gentle nudges to guide humanity towards this node of singularity. However, it’s emphasized that while minor adjustments can be made to steer mass consciousness, the fundamental course towards this convergence in 2012 is unstoppable and will bring about profound changes regardless of individual actions.

The dialogue also touches on the effect of solar activity on human consciousness and civilization. It’s suggested that the sun plays a crucial role in this transformation, with solar activity not only affecting physical aspects like climate and technology but also mirroring shifts in collective human consciousness and societal development.

The conversation focuses on the nature of time, space, and consciousness as they relate to the upcoming global shift anticipated around 2012-2013. The speakers discuss the concept of a “time of no time,” drawing parallels to a singularity point in physics where normal laws do not apply, likening it to a black hole where all timelines converge. This moment is seen as an opportunity for transformative changes across the consciousness of humanity and the physical planet itself.

The discussion also delves into the idea that extraterrestrial or higher-dimensional beings might be able to interact with and modify timelines, potentially steering humanity toward a more positive future. However, it’s emphasized that while these beings can influence outcomes, the larger evolutionary changes—such as significant increases in natural disasters and shifts in human consciousness—are inevitable and beyond the control of any single entity.

The speakers touch on the exponential increase in geological and meteorological catastrophes, suggesting that these are part of the natural progression towards this critical point of transformation. They propose that these changes are akin to an electron jumping to a higher energy level, a process that accumulates energy until a sudden shift occurs.

The conversation addresses the philosophical and metaphysical implications of free will, universal laws, and the nature of negative and positive forces within the universe. The speakers discuss the idea that while negative events and forces can exist and operate within certain limits, there are higher-dimensional beings who ensure these forces do not destroy the larger system, akin to guardians ensuring that the “children” (humanity) don’t burn down the “mansion” (the universe).

The concept of free will is highlighted as a fundamental law of the universe, described as inviolate and governing the actions and evolution of consciousness across dimensions. It’s emphasized that individuals’ choices to engage in service-to-self behaviors (self-serving and manipulative actions) inherently invite corresponding negative influences, reflecting their actions as a form of cosmic justice or balance.

This segment also touches on the relationship between the Earth, the Sun, and the broader cosmic environment, suggesting that these celestial bodies interact in a dynamic exchange that influences both physical and energetic changes on Earth. This dialogue blends scientific observations with metaphysical insights to suggest a holistic, interconnected universe where every action and choice has a broader impact on the personal and cosmic scale.

Additionally, the conversation tackles questions about the role of a creator or higher organizing principle in the universe. The speakers propose that the universe itself, in its vast and intricate organization, reflects the presence of a divine structure, emphasizing unity and interconnectedness from the macrocosmic to the microcosmic levels.

The discussion delves into the metaphysical implications of the interaction between the Earth, the Sun, and broader cosmic forces, particularly focusing on the increase in sunspot activity and its correlation with discord on Earth. The speakers explore Edgar Cayce’s readings from the early 20th century, which suggested a direct relationship between solar activity and human conflict, and expand this concept to include Vedic traditions that view the Sun as the progenitor of all life in the solar system, including the Earth.

The conversation further explores the idea that the Earth “listens” to the Sun, which is described as a higher-level being within our solar system, guiding the evolution and energy of the planets within it. This relationship is characterized as a feedback loop, where the Earth responds to signals from the Sun, which itself is influenced by larger galactic energies.

Additionally, the speakers tackle the concept of timelines and the notion that our galaxy contains zones of energy that influence the conditions on Earth. As Earth moves into a zone of heightened energy, this transition is said to facilitate a collapse or convergence of timelines into a “node” where traditional linear time may temporarily dissolve, leading to a period where there is “no time,” after which a new, higher-frequency level of existence may begin.

The segment also addresses questions from listeners, touching on the philosophical implications of free will in the face of inevitable cosmic events, the vitality of inanimate objects, and the potential survival strategies during intense solar events. The idea is posited that while certain cosmic events may be predetermined, human consciousness still retains the ability to choose how to respond and evolve within these parameters.

The speakers elaborate on the idea that while we are attached to our physical bodies, the transformational event predicted around 2012-2013 will not be a painful experience. Instead, it is described as an uplifting and almost ecstatic transition that transcends physical existence.

The discussion explores the concept that during this shift, individuals may experience a sort of rapture or ascension, where the continuity of their consciousness does not necessarily rely on physical survival. This aligns with descriptions of remote viewers who note a discontinuity or inability to see past this point, suggesting a profound change in the nature of time and reality.

Further, the conversation touches on the metaphysical law of free will, emphasizing its inviolable nature in the universe. It is suggested that every soul on Earth has chosen to be here during this transformative period, and while the major cosmic events may be fixed, individuals still have the freedom to choose how they respond and adapt to these changes.

Listeners are encouraged to consider that physical preparations, like seeking shelter from potential solar flares, might not be necessary or effective. Instead, the focus is shifted towards spiritual and conscious preparedness, fostering a mindset that embraces transformation rather than fearing it.

The conversation explores the metaphysical aspects of the universe, focusing on the structure and energetic mechanisms that govern cosmic and planetary interactions. The speakers delve into the concept of the “world tree” or the central cosmic axis seen by ancient shamans in out-of-body experiences, which symbolizes the energetic structure of the solar system. This structure is described as an axle around the sun, with spheres of energy corresponding to each planet, reflecting a highly ordered and precise mathematical system that guides the evolution of the universe.

The discussion also touches on the nature of time as a relative concept, intertwined with the structure of the universe. It’s suggested that time, like space, is part of a meticulously ordered system that is far from random. This view challenges the conventional understanding of the solar system as chaotic and unstructured, proposing instead that everything operates under precise laws that are yet to be fully understood by contemporary science.

Additionally, the speakers address the existential and spiritual implications of these cosmic structures and laws. They suggest that every soul on Earth has chosen to be here during this transformative era, knowingly participating in a significant cosmic event. This perspective is tied to the belief that the impending global shift is not only a physical or environmental change but also a profound spiritual awakening, where individuals have the opportunity to align more closely with cosmic vibrations and potentially ascend to higher dimensions of existence.

The discussion centers on metaphysical perspectives about the transition Earth is expected to undergo, drawing parallels to Vedic traditions and the energetic dynamics of the solar system. The speakers delve into the idea that every person, every element, and even the planet itself originates from the sun, described metaphysically as the “Logos” or a gateway to higher dimensions of existence.

The conversation explores how ancient shamans and various cultural myths perceive the solar system’s structure, seeing it as a giant tree or axis, reflecting a more complex, energetic reality that standard physical observations miss. This “world tree” concept is tied to a universal structure that spans across different cultures and metaphysical beliefs, suggesting a common visionary experience of the cosmic order.

Listeners are introduced to the idea that the upcoming global shift isn’t just another cyclic event but represents a significant evolutionary leap, where Earth transitions from a third-dimensional to a fourth-dimensional existence. This transition implies that not all current inhabitants of the planet—human or otherwise—will align with the new higher-dimensional existence due to their vibrational nature.

The speakers also touch on the notion of free will within this cosmic framework, emphasizing that souls choose their paths and experiences, contributing to their evolutionary progress or lack thereof. The justice of a higher power or cosmic order is seen not in controlling outcomes but in allowing each soul to experience the consequences of its choices, thereby learning and evolving.

Furthermore, the segment addresses questions about the implications of out-of-body experiences during the shift, the role of past civilizations like Atlantis and Lemuria in the cosmic cycle, and the nature of justice and moral order in the universe.

In this concluding segment of “Coast to Coast AM,” the discussion revolves around the transformative shift Earth is anticipated to undergo, described as moving into a fourth-dimensional state. This transition is depicted as a unique and unprecedented event, distinct from previous cycles because it culminates the energies of three consecutive 25,000-year cycles into a powerful implosion that pushes Earth into a new dimensional existence.

The speakers emphasize that for individuals to align with this new level, they need only be slightly more oriented towards service to others than to self-serving behaviors. This threshold, described as being just over 50% oriented towards altruism, is presented as not particularly difficult to achieve, which underscores a hopeful message about humanity’s potential to evolve.