Art begins the show by greeting listeners across various time zones and setting the stage for a night of open lines, specifically seeking those who have experienced close encounters of the third kind. He mentions the presence of ABC setting up equipment and invites listeners to view the scene through his webcam. Art recalls his own sighting of a large triangle and encourages listeners to share similar experiences. He then touches on current events, such as the arrest of a former ally in Iraq, the visit of Iraq’s interim prime minister to Najaf, and the political scenario involving Alan Keyes in Illinois.
Art discusses the erosion of Earth’s magnetic field, connecting it to the mysterious disappearance of homing pigeons in Sweden and similar phenomena. He shares alarming environmental stories, including a freak storm in London killing thousands of fish due to raw sewage overflow and the expansion of a hypoxic “dead zone” in the Gulf of Mexico caused by pollution. Art highlights the creation of a genetic material bank called the “Frozen Ark” in the UK, aimed at preserving the DNA of endangered species for future scientific research and potential revival.
Art highlights the increase in UFO sightings in Canada, mentioning that reports have surged, with over 400 sightings by the end of July, a significant increase from the previous year. Art introduces Dr. Steven Greer, a prominent ufologist known for his efforts in UFO disclosure, and discusses the potential dangers Greer faces, including threats received. Art plays a recorded threat sent to Dr. Greer, setting a serious tone for the night’s discussion.
During the call-in segment, a caller from Hawaii suggests that the Hubble Space Telescope is down due to unexplained “instrument failure,” possibly linked to unusual sightings. Art probes further but the caller prefers to remain discreet about the source. Another caller from Sedona discusses Dr. Greer’s 2001 disclosure video, highlighting testimonials from credible witnesses. Art reiterates the risks Dr. Greer faces, playing a threatening message left on Greer’s phone and seeking listeners’ reactions to the ominous warning.
Art discusses the possibility of differentiating between human-made and extraterrestrial UFOs, suggesting that those emitting radioactive waste are likely terrestrial, while others that disappear from radar may be extraterrestrial. He expresses concern for Dr. Greer due to the threats he receives. The conversation shifts to the integrity of electronic voting systems, mentioning that defense contractors are involved in their production, which raises transparency issues. A caller from Oklahoma describes multiple UFO sightings, including a close encounter with a mysterious white orb that vanished upon being signaled with a flashlight, which Art suggests could be more spirit-like than technological.
Another caller, “Desert Chad,” recalls his experience with a Mojave Desert phone booth and an unusual sighting during a visit there. Chad shares that he was chased out of the desert after his call to Art brought attention to the secluded phone booth, which the phone company subsequently removed. Chad’s sighting involved a yellow light in the sky, adding to the night’s ongoing theme of unexplained phenomena.
A caller named Chad recounts seeing a UFO in the desert that exhibited unusual behavior, zigzagging in the sky and appearing like a 1950s movie flying saucer. Despite considering it could be a movie set, the speed and location led him to believe it was genuine. Art then shifts to a musical interlude, noting his fondness for the show “Dead Like Me.” He resumes the discussion, focusing on Dr. Greer’s recorded threat, and asks listeners how they would react to such a warning.
A young caller from Michigan shares a sighting from when he was in third grade, describing a circular UFO with lights hovering about 100 feet in the air, seen by several children at a bus stop. Art appreciates the straightforwardness of the young caller’s account. Another caller from Minnesota describes a sighting from 1985, where he observed a strange light in the sky while walking near a schoolyard at night.
Art continues with a caller describing a sighting of three black triangular objects making incredible maneuvers in the sky, likening them to the objects Art himself has seen. The caller emphasizes the life-changing impact of such an experience, which is often met with skepticism or polite dismissal by those who haven’t experienced it. Another caller from Alabama recounts a similar sighting from his childhood, noting the eerie silence and massive size of the object, which matched descriptions from other witnesses.
The discussion touches on the fear and skepticism faced by those who report UFO sightings, highlighting the government’s likely reasons for keeping such information secret, including preventing widespread panic and maintaining control. The caller speculates on deeper motives beyond public fear, suggesting there are layers of secrecy and potential consequences for societal institutions. Art acknowledges the controversial nature of UFO evidence, such as the Billy Meier case, which has both strong supporters and vehement critics.
A caller from Colorado describes a bright, cigar-shaped object above a bell tower, so luminous it hurt to look at, which vanished when he looked away. Art asks if the government should invest more in investigating such phenomena, and the caller agrees, especially in light of Dr. Greer’s experiences. Another caller from Seattle recounts seeing three points of light moving in a dance-like pattern, wondering if commotion she caused might have attracted the UFO. She also recalls a childhood encounter with a silent silver object, noting her dog’s fear as an indicator of danger.
A first-time caller from Los Angeles, originally from Amarillo, Texas, shares a unique experience of a being with ten fingers on each hand, a memory from his childhood that he initially thought was a dream. He later found an illustration of the same being in a book about alien encounters, describing the creature as possibly reptilian. Art notes the rarity of such a description and the caller’s strong reaction upon seeing the illustration.
A caller from Texas describes seeing a windowless, winged object about 30 feet off the ground moving at 70 miles per hour, which he initially thought could be a bird but then recognized as something else. Another caller from New York City recounts seeing a large, black triangular UFO above the city, which he could barely make out due to cloud cover and city lights. He explains how a chance encounter with a stranger pointing out the UFO led him to follow it for 15 minutes before it disappeared. Art notes that people in Manhattan rarely look up, which could explain why not many others saw it.
The show transitions to introducing Dr. Steven Greer, founder and CEO of Space Energy Access Systems and the Disclosure Project. Dr. Greer, also an emergency room physician, has dedicated his life to uncovering the truth about UFOs and advocating for alternative energy sources. Art highlights Greer’s efforts and the threats he has faced due to his work, setting the stage for an in-depth discussion with Dr. Greer.
Art engages Dr. Steven Greer, who explains that the covert programs related to UFOs and advanced energy systems could solve many of the world’s problems, including oil dependency, environmental issues, and economic instability. Dr. Greer believes that revealing these technologies could transform humanity’s direction. He emphasizes that we are not alone and that clandestine programs have spent vast amounts of money developing advanced energy and propulsion systems without public benefit.
Dr. Greer is convinced of the reality of these technologies, whether back-engineered from extraterrestrial craft or developed independently. He shares that by the time of the lunar landing, the U.S. was already testing antigravity propulsion systems. Despite this, society remains dependent on fossil fuels, leading to conflicts like those in the Middle East. Greer stresses the urgency of changing our approach to energy and acknowledges the risks he faces in pursuing disclosure.
Art acknowledges the credibility of the witnesses Dr. Greer has gathered, including military personnel and pilots. He notes the potential danger of Greer’s work, referencing past threats. Dr. Greer remains undeterred, mentioning ongoing interest from Congress and past engagements with the Clinton administration, highlighting the significant political interest in these issues.
Dr. Steven Greer addresses the challenges and threats he faces, emphasizing the importance of not succumbing to fear. Despite numerous threats, he remains steadfast in his mission, believing that the public deserves to know the truth about advanced energy and propulsion systems. Dr. Greer recounts a recent threatening phone call received at 12:35 AM on July 19th, 2004, from an electronically altered voice warning him to stop prying into government matters.
Art plays the recording, revealing the call originated from a non-existent number in the Turks and Caicos Islands. Dr. Greer highlights the seriousness of this threat, noting its implication that the activities being threatened are illegal and rogue operations, not sanctioned by legitimate government authority. He points out that legitimate government operations would not resort to such intimidation tactics.
Dr. Greer shares that even after briefing high-level officials, including the CIA director and members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, these officials were denied access to information or lied to. This indicates a deep-seated rogue element within the government. He underscores the need to persist in revealing the truth, as these threats confirm the importance and legitimacy of their efforts.
Art questions the reactions of those around Dr. Greer, who are aware of the risks but remain committed to the cause. Dr. Greer asserts that none of the Disclosure Project witnesses have received similar threats, suggesting that these threats are specifically aimed at halting his efforts. He insists that legitimate legal actions could be taken against him if his work were genuinely against national interests, yet such actions have not occurred, further proving the rogue nature of the threats.
Dr. Greer acknowledges that his credibility and ability to gather information from witnesses may make him a target, but he remains undeterred, driven by the potential impact of revealing advanced technologies and their benefits to humanity.
Dr. Greer discusses the imminent disclosure of advanced technologies and the scientists working to reproduce UFO-related effects like antigravity. He emphasizes the urgency of revealing these technologies to prevent further environmental degradation and geopolitical conflicts over resources like oil. Dr. Greer asserts that humanity has been living on borrowed time for 50 years, relying on outdated energy systems, and calls for a significant shift in how we live on Earth to ensure sustainability.
Art asks whether Dr. Greer fears being silenced. Dr. Greer acknowledges the risks but insists on the importance of exposing these illegal, rogue operations. He references the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) to describe the clandestine group’s activities, including financial and corporate misconduct. Dr. Greer shares a story about former CIA Director Bill Colby, who was found dead under suspicious circumstances the same week he planned to meet with Greer’s team to provide funding for revealing extraterrestrial energy devices.
Dr. Greer emphasizes that these actions make the group ineligible to invoke the National Security Act of 1947 to silence disclosure efforts. He calls on those bound by national security oaths to come forward, asserting that the group’s illegal status nullifies such constraints.
Art reiterates Dr. Greer’s revelation about the suspicious death of former CIA Director Bill Colby, who was allegedly killed before he could transfer significant funding and technology to Dr. Greer’s group. Dr. Greer elaborates that Colby, along with a colonel, was preparing to support Project Starlight (later the Disclosure Project) with $50 million and advanced devices to help disclose and secure this information for the public. Colby’s death was officially reported as an accidental drowning, but Dr. Greer and others suspect foul play, drawing parallels to the plot of “The Manchurian Candidate.”
Dr. Greer recounts that Colby’s wife found his death uncharacteristic due to the unusual circumstances of his disappearance. The timing of his death, just before the planned meeting, raises suspicions. Dr. Greer also mentions the loss of his right-hand assistant, Gerry Adams, shortly after Colby’s death, reinforcing the dangers associated with their work.
Despite these risks, Dr. Greer remains undeterred, stressing the importance of transparency and the necessity of disclosing advanced technologies for the benefit of humanity. He believes that sharing these stories and the threats they face only highlights the illegal nature of the covert operations trying to silence them.
Art expresses concern about the lengths to which these rogue groups will go to prevent disclosure, including assassination. Dr. Greer acknowledges the risks but emphasizes that his public and non-clandestine approach, combined with support from sympathetic factions within covert projects, provides some level of protection. He remains focused on the greater good, advocating for the release of technologies that could provide sustainable solutions for the planet.
Dr. Greer and Art Bell discuss the urgent need for disclosing advanced technologies that could address global issues like environmental degradation and poverty. Dr. Greer underscores the importance of taking risks to achieve significant benefits, such as eliminating the need for fossil fuels and ensuring sustainable living for the world’s population. He believes that humanity must exercise its free will for the greater good, emphasizing the necessity for good people to step up and make a difference.
Dr. Greer shares an anecdote about meeting Senator Claiborne Pell, known for the Pell Grants. During a briefing for a think tank in California, Senator Pell admitted that despite his high-ranking positions and long tenure in Congress, he never received an official briefing on extraterrestrial matters. This revelation highlights the secrecy surrounding the subject, even among top government officials.
Art mentions the presence of ABC at the broadcast, expressing hope that mainstream media might finally tell the story accurately. Dr. Greer offers to provide ABC and other media with contact information for numerous credible insiders, including those with top secret clearances, to ensure the story is told properly. He remains cautiously optimistic that the media will handle the subject with the seriousness it deserves.
Art notes that ABC plans to air a 2 to 3-hour special in February 2005, indicating a potentially significant and thorough exploration of the topic. Dr. Greer emphasizes the credibility of the witnesses involved in the Disclosure Project, many of whom have handled nuclear weapons and possess high-level clearances, underscoring the gravity and legitimacy of the information being shared.
Art and Dr. Greer discuss the potential ABC special, emphasizing the importance of presenting serious and credible evidence. Dr. Greer mentions the extensive documentation and testimony from government insiders, including those who have handled nuclear arsenals and held top secret clearances. He explains that the Disclosure Project has doubled the number of witnesses willing to come forward since 2001.
Art raises the issue of national security and the official end of UFO investigations with Project Blue Book, questioning why there hasn’t been any formal acknowledgment since. Dr. Greer asserts that the government knows about these phenomena but chooses not to disclose them because doing so would reveal advanced technologies that could end the oil economy and centralized control.
Dr. Greer shares a revelation from a close associate of the Bush family, who admitted that the Iraq war was primarily about securing oil reserves in anticipation of a global shortage due to rapid industrialization in China and India. He criticizes the focus on fossil fuels when advanced technologies in black projects could eliminate the need for them, calling it a significant crime against humanity.
Art agrees, noting that controlling oil merely postpones the inevitable crisis. Dr. Greer points out the short-term thinking prevalent in national security planning and stresses the urgent need for a course correction towards sustainable energy solutions. He believes humanity is ready for this change, despite resistance from a small group benefiting from the current system.
Art and Dr. Greer discuss the inevitability of transitioning away from centralized energy and economic systems. Dr. Greer asserts that extraterrestrial civilizations are observing humanity and waiting for us to mature beyond our current dysfunctional state. He believes that advanced energy sources known to the government may have roots in both human ingenuity and extraterrestrial contact, citing early work by Nikola Tesla and others.
Art asks Dr. Greer if he believes extraterrestrial beings were involved in these breakthroughs. Dr. Greer explains that while humans made significant advancements independently, the retrieval of extraterrestrial vehicles in the 1930s greatly accelerated their understanding and development of these technologies.
The conversation then shifts to the implications of revealing such advanced technologies. Art underscores the transformative potential of these discoveries, including the end of the fossil fuel economy and the creation of sustainable energy solutions. He reflects on his personal experiences with unexplained aerial phenomena and the certainty it has given him about the existence of antigravity propulsion systems.
Art also mentions the presence of ABC filming the show and the significance of their high-definition equipment. He hints at the Brookings Report, a document that suggested the societal impacts of discovering extraterrestrial life, and prepares to delve into its implications with Dr. Greer.
Art and Dr. Greer discuss the potential societal impact of revealing extraterrestrial life, referencing the Brookings Report, which suggested that such a discovery could affect religious views and scientific understanding. Dr. Greer argues that humanity is more prepared for this revelation now than in the past, with a significant portion of the population already believing in the existence of UFOs and extraterrestrial life. He criticizes the idea that the public can’t handle the truth, suggesting it’s a cover for maintaining secrecy.
Art presents two scenarios: one where a signal is detected from a distant star system, which he believes would be absorbed by the public, and another where extraterrestrials land on Earth, which could cause more immediate concern. Dr. Greer responds that the reaction depends on how the information is presented. If portrayed as a threat, it would cause fear; if shown as an opportunity for peaceful interaction, it would be more positive.
Dr. Greer dismisses the idea that extraterrestrials pose a significant threat, citing the lack of hostile actions despite decades of encounters and attempts to engage them militarily. He reveals that some frightening abduction stories are actually disinformation operations by human special forces to create a false alien threat.
Dr. Greer shares an encounter with a senior Vatican theologian who confirmed the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations and advocated for peaceful contact. The theologian, acting with the Pope’s blessing, emphasized that intelligent life elsewhere in the universe aligns with theological perspectives. Dr. Greer also mentions discussions with a Knight of Malta about the extensive information on extraterrestrials in the Vatican’s secret library.
Dr. Greer and Art Bell delve into the role of religious institutions in the disclosure of extraterrestrial life. Dr. Greer explains that many religious groups, including the Vatican, are aware of the issue but do not see it as their role to reveal it. Instead, they prepare to discuss it in a way that affirms the universality of God. He argues that the existence of other intelligent life forms does not negate any rational religious teachings but rather enhances the understanding of a supreme being’s creation.
Dr. Greer shares that while most people in the Vatican, like in the U.S. government, are unaware of these issues, there are compartmented operations, such as Opus Dei, that might hold knowledge. He explains that even the Pope may not have full access to this information, similar to how U.S. presidents are not always privy to all national security secrets, especially those related to unacknowledged special access projects.
He recounts a conversation with Lord Hill-Norton, a former head of the Ministry of Defense in the UK, who was unaware of these matters during his tenure. Dr. Greer suggests that such secrecy is maintained because individuals like Hill-Norton would have opposed the covert activities and corrupt operations surrounding advanced technologies and extraterrestrial knowledge.
Art and Dr. Greer discuss the potential consequences if humanity continues to rely on fossil fuels until they are depleted. Dr. Greer mentions the irrationality of this approach, pointing out that policy groups, sometimes referred to as the “MJ-12” group, include individuals who fantasize about apocalyptic scenarios. These “escapologists” believe in an inevitable end, influencing their decisions to maintain secrecy and control over advanced technologies and resources.
Dr. Greer and Art discuss the influence of apocalyptic beliefs on policy-making, referencing historical examples like James Watt, the Interior Secretary under Reagan, who believed the world would end soon and thus disregarded environmental concerns. Dr. Greer highlights the irrationality of such views and emphasizes the need for a more proactive approach to sustainable energy.
Art shares a story about a woman who inquired with a credit card company about their policy if an asteroid were to hit Earth. The company surprisingly had a policy allowing everyone to max out their cards, illustrating the absurdity and impracticality of some contingency plans. This leads to a discussion on how worldviews shape policies and the necessity of addressing these deeply ingrained perspectives.
Dr. Greer recounts a briefing he organized for the Senate Environment and Energy Committee in 2000, where experts like Colonel Tom Bearden stressed the urgency of transitioning to new energy systems by 2004. They warned that the lead time for deploying these technologies is significant, and immediate action is required to avoid future crises.
Art asks Dr. Greer if he believes the transition away from fossil fuels can happen by 2020. Dr. Greer asserts that a massive, coordinated effort akin to the Marshall Plan is needed to achieve this goal. He expresses willingness to collaborate with the government if they are genuinely committed to this transition, emphasizing the urgency of the situation.
Dr. Greer explains that he left his medical career to focus on this cause, highlighting the importance he places on it. The discussion underscores the critical need for a global shift in energy practices and the potential for advanced technologies to drive this change.
Art and Dr. Greer continue discussing the shift in focus from UFO sightings to the underlying energy issues related to these phenomena. Dr. Greer explains that since the early 1990s, he has been aware of the connection between UFO secrecy and advanced energy technologies. He initially expected others to handle the energy aspect while he focused on promoting a peaceful approach to extraterrestrial contact. However, he realized that the same groups managing UFO secrecy were also controlling advanced energy information, necessitating a comprehensive approach to address both issues.
Dr. Greer describes an event at Mount Shasta, where he and a group observed and interacted with unexplained lights using high-powered lasers. These lights responded to their signals, and electromagnetic detection devices started beeping, indicating the presence of unusual electromagnetic activity. This encounter exemplifies their efforts in the Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind (CE-5) initiative, where humans actively reach out to potential extraterrestrial visitors using various signaling techniques.
He emphasizes the importance of bypassing debates about the existence of extraterrestrials and instead focusing on how humanity should interact with them. Dr. Greer advocates for proactive engagement, where humans recognize their sentience and reach out to extraterrestrial beings in a conscious and deliberate manner.
Art acknowledges the significance of Mount Shasta, noting its geological features and history of UFO sightings. Dr. Greer agrees, emphasizing the potential for humans to connect with extraterrestrial visitors and the need for a shift in how society approaches these encounters.
Art and Dr. Greer explore the connection between metaphysical phenomena and advanced scientific concepts. Dr. Greer suggests that what we often label as metaphysical or miraculous is simply science not yet understood. He argues that advanced extraterrestrial civilizations capable of interstellar travel have likely discovered the nexus between light, matter, space-time, and consciousness, blending what we call metaphysics with advanced science.
Dr. Greer points out that experiences of spirits and other supernatural entities might have physical explanations we have yet to discover. He asserts that there is a continuum between different types of phenomena, whether they be spiritual, extraterrestrial, or otherwise. The distinction between metaphysical and physical is an artificial barrier created by our limited understanding.
He elaborates that faster-than-light phenomena, which some might call metaphysical, are indeed scientific and involve areas like scalar electromagnetic systems. These phenomena can be explained scientifically once we develop the necessary instrumentation and understanding. Dr. Greer emphasizes that empirical observation and experience are fundamental to science, and dismissing phenomena as purely metaphysical because we lack the tools to measure them is a mistake.
Art agrees, noting that many things currently considered religious or supernatural might one day be understood scientifically. Dr. Greer reinforces this, suggesting that much of our current scientific understanding is still in its infancy, and humility is needed as we continue to explore and discover more about the universe.
Art and Dr. Greer continue their discussion about the connection between UFOs and metaphysical phenomena. Dr. Greer explains that advanced extraterrestrial civilizations capable of interstellar travel would naturally have an understanding of the nexus between light, matter, space-time, and consciousness, bridging the gap between what we call metaphysics and advanced science. He posits that phenomena often labeled as metaphysical or miraculous can be understood scientifically with advancements in technology and understanding.
Dr. Greer describes how their CE-5 initiative involves communicating with extraterrestrial entities using light signals and electromagnetic detection devices. He recounts an experience at Mount Shasta where lights responded to their signals, indicating a form of communication. He believes these interactions are not with spirits but with physical entities using advanced technology.
Art asks about the connection between UFOs and volcanic areas. Dr. Greer suggests that extraterrestrial vehicles are often observed around volcanoes because of concerns about the Earth’s stability and the potential environmental impact of volcanic activity. He points out that UFO sightings have been reported around many volcanic eruptions worldwide, including Mount Pinatubo and other locations along the Pacific Ring of Fire.
The conversation shifts to the possibility of extraterrestrial intervention in catastrophic events. Dr. Greer shares that a document from 1991 suggested that in the event of a worst-case scenario, such as thermonuclear war, there might be extraterrestrial intervention to stabilize the situation. He cites instances where UFOs reportedly intercepted and even destroyed intercontinental ballistic missiles, indicating a concern for preserving life on Earth.
Dr. Greer also references reports of missiles being deactivated at nuclear silos and similar incidents in Russia, suggesting that extraterrestrial civilizations are sending a message to avoid nuclear conflict. He mentions that the Disclosure Project includes testimonies from senior officials who witnessed these interventions, emphasizing the serious implications of these actions.
Dr. Greer continues explaining that several credible witnesses from the Atomic Energy Commission and the Strategic Air Command have corroborated incidents where extraterrestrial vehicles intercepted and disabled intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs). He mentions that testimonies from these individuals indicate that UFOs have rendered multiple ICBMs inoperable, showcasing their capability to intervene in nuclear activities.
Art brings in a caller named John from Centralia, who claims to have been at a missile silo in South Dakota in 1966. John describes a series of security violations where unidentified objects penetrated the outer and inner security zones of the site, leading to guidance and control failures of the missile systems. He recounts how Air Police were scrambled and reported seeing saucer-like objects hovering over the silos, emitting lights.
John also mentions that after witnessing the UFOs, another team, including analysts, was dispatched to the site. They confirmed the presence of the object. Despite these significant events, John notes that a similar incident a year later at Malmstrom Air Force Base was not known to the commanders at Ellsworth due to strict compartmentalization and secrecy protocols.
This discussion highlights the repeated pattern of UFOs interfering with nuclear facilities, emphasizing the compartmentalized nature of such knowledge within the military and government.
John continues detailing his experience with the missile silo incident, describing how the guidance and control packages were pulled from the missiles and sent to Boeing for analysis after they were mysteriously rendered inoperative. He recounts listening to the events on the Air Force radio and observing helicopters with photographers documenting the incident.
Dr. Greer invites John and others with similar experiences to contact the Disclosure Project, emphasizing the importance of corroborating these testimonies. He mentions having a significant collection of KGB documents and other evidence showing similar occurrences in the former Soviet Union. These events suggest that extraterrestrial vehicles were attempting to prevent the use of nuclear weapons, demonstrating enlightened guidance rather than hostility.
Dr. Greer shares an incident involving Admiral Harry Train at the Atlantic Command facility in Norfolk. An enormous extraterrestrial vehicle was tracked and photographed by multiple radar stations and pilots. Due to a lack of adequate briefing, the admiral ordered military jet fighters to force the object down, mistaking it initially for a Soviet missile. This action highlighted the dangers of secrecy and misinformation, as the situation could have escalated into a catastrophic conflict.
The discussion underscores the risks associated with keeping commanders and other officials in the dark about extraterrestrial activities. Dr. Greer highlights the need for transparency to prevent potential threats to national security and avoid dangerous misunderstandings.
Art recalls missions that captured footage of objects in space being fired at, suggesting that there might be space-based evidence of attempts to engage extraterrestrial vehicles. Dr. Greer confirms the existence of such evidence and warns about the actions of unsupervised groups posing threats to world peace due to their secrecy and lack of oversight.
Art and Dr. Greer discuss the risks of extreme secrecy surrounding the UFO phenomenon and its implications for national security. Dr. Greer emphasizes that the problem is not a threat from extraterrestrials but the dysfunctional secrecy and lack of oversight that endangers both national and global security. He references a letter by Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter, the first CIA director, who stated that the secrecy around UFOs posed a national security threat.
Dr. Greer points out that many senior military officials support the Disclosure Project and are appalled by how the issue has been managed. He recounts briefing a high-ranking intelligence official for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who was denied access to information about covert programs. This official, despite his position, was told he did not have a need to know, illustrating the extent of the secrecy.
The conversation turns to the legality of these secret operations. Dr. Greer asserts that lying to the president, military commanders, and congressional committees makes these operations inherently illegal. He encourages military witnesses to come forward, framing it as a patriotic act to expose what he calls the largest illegal operation in history.
Art questions whether the increase in UFO activity began post-1945, coinciding with nuclear detonations. Dr. Greer confirms that there was a significant rise in sightings and interactions after the first nuclear weapons were used, suggesting that these events drew extraterrestrial attention due to their destructive potential.
Dr. Greer discusses the concern extraterrestrial civilizations might have regarding humanity’s development of nuclear weapons and spacefaring capabilities. He shares insights from Gordon, the former editor of Flying Saucer Review, who believed that detonating thermonuclear weapons essentially signaled to advanced civilizations that Earth was at risk. This concern was not only for Earth but also for other civilizations observing humanity’s rapid technological advancements.
Dr. Greer explains that sightings of extraterrestrial vehicles around nuclear sites, such as Roswell and White Sands, were likely due to this concern. He highlights that many credible witnesses and documents, including those from the Atomic Energy Commission, have reported these vehicles’ presence around nuclear facilities. The first major sightings, including the Roswell incident, were near the only nuclear bomb squadron in the world at the time, suggesting a direct link.
Art Bell notes the logical connection between nuclear activity and increased UFO sightings, pointing out that the Roswell crash happened near a major nuclear site. Dr. Greer confirms that nuclear weapons storage and assembly facilities were frequently visited by these vehicles, indicating a pattern of monitoring and concern.
Dr. Greer emphasizes the importance of transparency and the need for credible witnesses to come forward. He invites military personnel and others with knowledge of advanced energy and propulsion systems to contact the Disclosure Project. He mentions the organization’s website, disclosureproject.org, and encourages people to share their information to aid in bringing these technologies to public attention.
Dr. Greer explains that while their primary focus has been on getting extraterrestrial objects to interact with them, they have not yet moved to more advanced forms of communication. He notes that even the willingness of these objects to interact signifies a significant potential for future communication and understanding between civilizations. Dr. Greer mentions a paper he wrote for the World Affairs Journal, which discusses the risks of illegal covert operations and the promise of extraterrestrial contact. This journal is highly influential, read by many world leaders.
He describes the CE-5 initiative, which involves laypeople, including rocket scientists and housewives, attempting to make contact with extraterrestrial objects. These interactions are profound, signaling the possibility of more substantial communication in the future. Dr. Greer expresses optimism that one day, there might be a documented landing and communication with extraterrestrial beings. However, he emphasizes the need for society to be ready for such contact, which requires overcoming the current secrecy and fear-mongering.
Art suggests that any successful contact would quickly draw the attention of the military, potentially taking control away from civilian efforts. Dr. Greer acknowledges that the military is already aware of their activities, citing instances where he was approached by senior military officials after establishing contact in various locations. These officials questioned his actions, highlighting the tension between civilian and military approaches to extraterrestrial contact.
Dr. Greer stresses the importance of not leaving the contact solely in the hands of the military. He believes that peaceful, civilian-led efforts are crucial for fostering positive relationships with extraterrestrial civilizations. The discussion underlines the need for transparency, public awareness, and a non-militaristic approach to extraterrestrial engagement.
Dr. Greer recounts a significant meeting in April 1992, where he was subtly but clearly threatened and urged to cease his activities related to UFO disclosure. He was taken to a hotel room and interrogated late into the night. Despite the intimidating circumstances, he asserted his intention to continue his work for the greater good, advocating for a peaceful and enlightened approach to the future rather than a militaristic one.
He describes how, shortly after this meeting, he was offered a position on a covert group with promises of substantial resources and access to advanced technology, which he declined. Following his refusal, attempts were made to discredit him, including false claims about his medical credentials, and he began receiving threats. Despite these challenges, Dr. Greer remained steadfast in his mission, believing in the importance of public awareness and support.
Dr. Greer emphasizes that his safest position is in the public eye, encouraging military personnel and others with knowledge to come forward. He explains that public support and real-time dissemination of information are crucial for protection and progress. He shares advice he received from a national security lawyer, stressing the importance of keeping the public informed as a shield against potential threats.
Art Bell asks about the best ways for the general public to support Dr. Greer’s efforts. Dr. Greer suggests staying informed, contacting congressional representatives to advocate for disclosure, and helping to locate hidden technologies and witnesses. He also appreciates prayers and positive thoughts for guidance and protection.
Dr. Greer assures that he takes necessary precautions for his safety and that of his staff and family. He mentions having substantial support from sympathetic groups within the covert structure who ensure their safety. He encourages people not to be intimidated by threats and to focus on doing the right thing for a better future.
Dr. Greer expresses his gratification regarding ABC’s commitment to producing a serious and comprehensive special on UFOs, spearheaded by Peter Jennings. He hopes that Jennings will maintain his integrity throughout the process despite potential pressures to produce a ridiculing piece. Dr. Greer also notes the significance of his invitation to write a special article for the World Affairs Journal, an esteemed publication read by global leaders.
Art Bell discusses the surge in UFO sightings in Canada, noting that 2024 is on track to be a record year. Dr. Greer mentions a senior Canadian government minister’s interest in the subject, particularly concerning environmental and propulsion technologies. He points out that while the United States lags behind publicly in UFO disclosure, it holds significant technological secrets, leading to greater disinformation and control issues.
Dr. Greer reveals that within the covert group managing UFO secrecy, there is a growing faction that supports disclosure. While initially a third of the group favored disclosure, now it’s closer to 40-50%. Despite this, the group faces difficulties in reversing their long-standing secrecy policies.
Art asks if there have been any communications between the US and other countries on this topic. Dr. Greer confirms that these classified programs are transnational, involving corporate, financial, and intelligence entities that transcend national boundaries. He compares the situation to the portrayal in the film “The Manchurian Candidate,” highlighting the involvement of large global corporations with governmental and military ties.
The conversation concludes with Dr. Greer emphasizing the importance of public support and vigilance to ensure the truth is revealed. Art thanks Dr. Greer and closes the show, anticipating the upcoming ABC special.