Art shares his excitement about the previous night’s discussion with Robert Bigelow and anticipates an upcoming conversation with Maurice Cotterell, who aims to explain the concept of gravity, a subject Art admits to having a limited understanding of. The episode features a mix of personal anecdotes, like a photograph taken at an award ceremony, and Art’s promotion of his pizza punch, which led to an overwhelming response on his website.
The show transitions into current events, discussing the challenges faced by US Airways passengers due to weather disruptions, a Senate Judiciary Committee’s intentions to subpoena White House officials, ongoing violence in Iraq, and a poignant story of a man wrongly convicted of rape, later found guilty of murder. Art also touches upon a fundraiser attended by the Clintons and a tragic incident involving pilot whales in the Galapagos Islands.
Art discusses the surprising admission from former Arizona Governor Pat Symington regarding the Phoenix lights incident. Symington’s new stance represents a significant shift from his previous mockery of the event, suggesting a desire to rectify his past actions and call for an official investigation. The episode also delves into intriguing astronomical findings, like extensive frozen water on Mars’ south polar region, potentially revolutionizing future Mars missions by providing necessary resources for human survival and fuel.
Moreover, the show explores environmental concerns, highlighting how smog and air pollution from Asian cities are intensifying Pacific Ocean storms, which could accelerate Arctic warming. Art connects these global environmental issues to local observations, speculating about the mysterious haziness in Western skies possibly linked to distant pollution sources or even chemtrails, raising questions about their impact on phenomena like the disappearance of honeybees.
Art delves into the mysterious crash of an unidentified flying object in Iran’s central province of Kerman, prompting discussions and speculations about its nature, whether it be a meteor or something else entirely. This incident draws parallels with the historic Tunguska event, prompting discussions about large-scale extraterrestrial impacts on Earth. Art then shifts focus to the power of intuition, citing a study that suggests quick, intuitive decisions can be more effective than thoughtful deliberations, especially in test-taking scenarios.
The episode transitions into a series of open lines where listeners from various regions call in to share their thoughts and experiences. One caller intriguingly discusses a dream involving Art’s unborn daughter, which Art handles with a mix of humor and skepticism. Another caller begins to delve into business aspects related to a previous show’s topic, hinting at the multifaceted discussions that take place on the program.
Art continues to share personal aspects of his life, discussing the anticipated arrival of his baby via C-section and the difficulty in predicting the exact due date. This segues into a listener’s call that sparks a fascinating conversation about human access to space. The caller expresses a desire for more direct experiences of space, suggesting that live feeds from cameras in space could inspire and educate people, particularly children, about the universe beyond our planet.
The discussion expands to include the potential of such technology to transform our understanding and perception of space, drawing parallels to Plato’s allegory of the cave. Art and the caller ponder the impact of viewing celestial bodies like Saturn’s rings or Mars firsthand, emphasizing the power of these images to make science fiction feel real and inspire future generations.
Further calls include a listener congratulating Art on a lifetime achievement award and another expressing a desire for an autographed picture, highlighting the challenges Art faces with such requests due to the volume of emails from fans and professional autograph hunters alike.
One caller suggests getting an astrological reading before his wife’s C-section, leading to a discussion about astrology’s potential validity and its historical acknowledgment, even by the Vatican. Another listener inquires about historical instances of whales beaching themselves, questioning if there’s a connection to navy sonar usage, prompting Art to ponder the mysteries behind such phenomena.
The conversation shifts to personal stories from callers, including one who shares an experience of witnessing a mysterious triangular object in the sky, echoing the earlier discussion about the Phoenix lights incident. This anecdote leads Art to express his desire to interview former Governor Symington to understand his reasons for initially ridiculing the UFO sightings in Arizona.
Another caller brings up a lighter topic, asking about Art’s wife’s impressions of Los Angeles, leading to a description of their experience with the city’s notorious traffic.
One caller compares traffic in Los Angeles to that in Manila, noting the chaotic nature of both but pointing out some unique aspects of driving in Manila, such as the disregard for stop signs. Another caller shares a personal story of how they discovered Art’s show while driving in the desert, highlighting the engaging nature of talk radio compared to music during long drives.
The show transitions to a discussion with Maurice Cotterell, who is set to explain gravity in layman’s terms. Maurice, an engineer and scientist, has researched the magnetic reversals of the sun and has used this knowledge to decode the sun-worshipping civilizations of the world, including the Mayas, Egyptians, and ancient Chinese. He claims to have insights into the nature of life, death, the soul, heaven, hell, reincarnation, and the path to enlightenment.
Maurice shares that he has recently presented his findings on how gravity works at a UFO conference, indicating that the information is no longer confidential and open for public discussion. This sets the stage for a deep dive into the mysteries of the universe and our place within it, as seen through the lens of ancient knowledge and modern scientific inquiry.
Art Bell engages in a deep discussion with Maurice Cotterell about the nature of gravity. Maurice attempts to demystify the concept, referring to Isaac Newton’s observations and theories, explaining gravity’s relationship with mass and the distance between objects. Despite the complexity of the subject, Maurice strives to present his ideas in a more accessible manner, aiming to clarify how gravity operates beyond just mathematical formulas.
Maurice then delves into broader philosophical and cosmological territories, connecting the concept of gravity to the origins of the universe. He explores the idea that at the beginning of the universe, with the first particle emerging from the Big Bang, conventional understandings of gravity would not apply. This leads to a discussion on the transition of energy into mass, using Einstein’s equation E=mc^2, and proposing a spiritual interpretation where energy represents God or light, and mass represents the physical universe or, metaphorically, hell.
This perspective posits the physical universe as the antithesis of the spiritual or divine realm, suggesting that our physical reality is, in a sense, hellish compared to the pure energy state of divinity. Maurice suggests that the Big Bang not only initiated the universe but also marked the beginning of time, with the sequential nature of events and the progression of life on Earth serving as manifestations of this temporal dimension.
Maurice Cotterell expands on his theory, linking the physical and spiritual realms through the concept of voltages representing the soul and body. He suggests that human beings, with their biological systems and electrical brain signals, are a mix of divine and material elements. According to Cotterell, when humans reach a certain level of intellectual or spiritual development, they connect with a divine energy, gaining a soul and becoming fully human.
He elaborates that the growth and purity of a person’s soul, represented as an increase in voltage, can influence their ultimate destiny after death. Those who cultivate love and positivity increase their voltage, aligning closer with divinity, potentially reuniting with the divine energy upon death. Conversely, those who harbor negativity may see a decrease in their soul’s voltage, leading to reincarnation instead of ascension.
Cotterell’s theory attempts to marry the concepts of creation and evolution, suggesting that the universe and humanity serve as mechanisms for divine growth. He posits that God, or the collective divine energy, expands through the accumulation of positive energy from human souls.
Maurice Cotterell suggests that what we perceive as reality, such as the essence of a flower, is transitory and subject to the laws of biological and spiritual voltages. According to Cotterell, when a living being dies, the soul’s voltage is released and could transition into another life form, which might not necessarily be of the same species.
Cotterell emphasizes that human perception is an illusion; what we see as a human or any living being is essentially God’s presence. The evolution of one’s soul and its ascension or reincarnation depends on the individual’s actions and spiritual growth on Earth. He mentions that ancient civilizations, like the Mayas and Egyptians, encoded this knowledge in their artifacts, suggesting a continuous cycle of learning and growth beyond a single lifetime.
He introduces the idea that while the physical brain and heart are not preserved after death, some form of spiritual memory or essence might carry over to the next life, explaining phenomena like child prodigies. This minimal memory, which survives through reincarnations, contributes to the soul’s journey and its accumulation of knowledge and purity across lifetimes.
Art Bell connects with these ideas, sharing his inclination towards believing in reincarnation, and raises a question about cross-species reincarnation and the transmission of karmic lessons without a direct memory of past lives. Cotterell’s response highlights a subtle spiritual memory that influences the soul’s development and choices in subsequent lives, suggesting a complex interplay between spiritual evolution and the physical experience.
Cotterell explains the concept of inverse transmigration, as mentioned in Tutankhamun’s tomb, suggesting that souls can switch genders or species across lifetimes. This idea is illustrated with examples from nature and ancient beliefs, such as a female calf exhibiting male behavior due to its past life as a bull.
Cotterell challenges the conventional understanding of instincts and natural behaviors, suggesting that these are remnants of knowledge acquired in past lives, not just innate programming. He uses the example of a bird building a nest, questioning the simplistic label of ‘instinct’ and encouraging a deeper inquiry into the origins of such behaviors.
He further explores the notion that collective behaviors in animals, like flocks of birds moving in unison, might be manifestations of shared soul fragments experiencing life collectively after a spiritual breakdown, akin to a shattered windscreen representing a single soul divided into many parts.
Cotterell also touches on human behaviors and preferences, suggesting that phenomena like vegetarianism or sexual orientation could be influenced by experiences from past lives. He dismisses the idea of a hellish afterlife, instead proposing that Earth itself serves as a purgatory where souls learn and evolve.
He concludes with the idea that ancient royal practices, such as pharaohs marrying their siblings, were aimed at preserving pure DNA for the soul’s return, ensuring continuity and a higher chance of spiritual ascension. This ties back to the broader theme of reincarnation, where each life is a step in the soul’s journey towards purity and enlightenment, influenced by past experiences and choices.
Maurice Cotterell discusses the intriguing concept of reincarnation, suggesting that one can return as their own grandchild or even as another species, aligning with the beliefs of various ancient civilizations. He shares a personal anecdote about witnessing the transmigration of a soul from a dying woman to a newborn baby, noting several coincidences and observations that led him to this conclusion.
Cotterell delves into the mechanics of how souls attach to bodies, proposing that the biological voltage of a developing body must reach a certain level to attract a piece of divine energy or a soul. He speculates that this attachment occurs before birth and that the proximity of a pregnant woman to a dying person could influence the transference of soul energy due to the voltage variations between the bodies.
While Cotterell’s explanations mix spiritual beliefs with scientific language, his theories challenge conventional understanding and open up discussions about the nature of life, death, and the journey of the soul. The conversation touches on profound questions about the timing and mechanics of soul attachment to the physical body and the continuous cycle of life and reincarnation.
Maurice Cotterell shares his personal experience, which he interprets as witnessing the transfer of a soul from a dying woman to a newborn baby, a process he describes occurring in stages over several days. He recounts noticing specific patterns and coincidences that led him to this conclusion, including a significant moment when he was repetitively thinking “it’s only a body,” prompting him to question the whereabouts of the soul.
Cotterell then delves into the reasons for physical death from a spiritual and evolutionary perspective. He suggests that death is a mechanism for the purification and evolution of the soul, aligning with his belief in reincarnation. He presents the idea that the soul’s journey through various lives, experiencing different social statuses and challenges, is a process designed to purify it and enable its eventual ascent to a higher spiritual state or ‘heaven.’
He explains this process using the metaphor of an elevator moving between floors, with each life representing a different level of spiritual and moral development. Wealth and material possessions, in his view, can hinder this progress, echoing religious teachings that emphasize the value of humility and generosity for spiritual growth.
Cotterell’s assertions, while compelling to some, including Art Bell, are met with skepticism by others who seek more concrete scientific evidence. Despite this, Cotterell remains confident in his interpretations, suggesting that ancient civilizations had a profound understanding of these spiritual processes, as evidenced by their art and artifacts, which he has studied extensively.
Maurice Cotterell continues to elaborate on his theories, asserting that the soul can attach to new living cells, with the nature of the attachment dependent on the voltage level, which he links to spiritual development. He also discusses astrology’s role in creating diverse personalities to ensure continuous conflict and growth, which he believes is part of God’s plan for the universe to evolve indefinitely.
Cotterell describes God as electromagnetic energy, comparing the human body and soul to a computer that becomes ‘alive’ when powered. He suggests that just as a computer operates on electrical signals, so does the human body, with God’s energy animating and guiding it. While Art Bell challenges the comparison, pointing out that computers lack consciousness and self-awareness, Cotterell maintains that the underlying energy and processes are similar.
Cotterell’s perspective is that all things, including inanimate objects, possess a form of spirit or energy, drawing parallels between biological systems and man-made devices. He posits that spiritual growth and the journey of the soul are closely tied to this universal energy, which he equates with God’s presence in the physical world.
Maurice Cotterell describes witnessing a soul’s transition from a dying person to a newborn baby, suggesting that the soul attaches to new life based on its ‘voltage’ level. Cotterell differentiates between having a spirit, which he believes all tangible things possess, and having a soul, which he reserves for sentient beings.
Cotterell also touches upon the concepts of good and evil, suggesting that while we are part divine (soul) and part material (body), it’s the body that aligns with what might be considered ‘devilish,’ as it represents mass, the opposite of pure energy or ‘godliness.’ This framework suggests that our spiritual journey involves balancing and elevating our divine aspect over our material aspect.
The discussion shifts to the practicalities of conveying his complex ideas, as Cotterell mentions the limitations of radio to fully encapsulate his theories, which are better illustrated through the visual aids and detailed explanations found in his books. He encourages listeners to explore his website for a more comprehensive understanding of his work, hinting at the intricate and interconnected nature of his findings, which span across various disciplines and ancient wisdom.
Maurice Cotterell shares more about his methods of deciphering ancient artifacts, particularly focusing on a coffin lid from the tomb of Lord Pacal, a Mayan king. He explains how overlapping transparencies reveal hidden information, such as numbers and faces, when aligned at specific angles. Cotterell ties these findings to biblical references, suggesting a connection between Mayan codes and spiritual concepts found in the Book of Revelation, like the number 144,000, which he interprets as a signifier of those destined for heaven.
Cotterell’s assertion that the Mayans, or perhaps a singular genius among them, had profound insights into the nature of reality, heaven, hell, and spiritual evolution offers a tantalizing perspective on ancient knowledge. He suggests that this genius could be a reincarnation of Jesus Christ, presenting a cyclical view of wisdom and enlightenment being passed through different cultures and epochs.
Art Bell probes Cotterell on the precision and implications of his findings, reflecting a natural skepticism while also acknowledging the intrigue and potential value of Cotterell’s research.
Cotterell delves deeper into the significance of the number 144,000, a figure he connects to various spiritual and scientific interpretations. He mentions the etheric chakras and their rotations, as proposed by Alice Bailey, suggesting that when aligned, they could facilitate the soul’s ascension. Cotterell also references Bruce Cathy’s work, proposing a unique relationship between the speed of light, Earth’s ley lines, and spiritual enlightenment.
Cotterell interprets ancient Mayan artifacts, suggesting Lord Pacal, a Mayan king, might have been a reincarnation of Jesus Christ, drawing parallels between Pacal’s life story and biblical narratives. He extends this idea to other ancient civilizations, asserting that their leaders were often seen as embodiments of Venus, the planet associated with purity and love, which he equates with divine enlightenment.
The discussion touches on the idea that the number 144,000 might not represent a literal count but rather symbolize those who achieve a state of enlightenment or ‘heavenly’ purity. Cotterell suggests that achieving this state involves harmonizing with all elemental forces, much like being at the perfect balance point, akin to standing in the foam of the sea, connected to both land and water.
Cotterell also delves into the prophecy associated with the end of the Mayan calendar in 2012, addressing concerns about potential calamities. He suggests that the Mayans might have been aware of cyclical changes in the Earth’s and Sun’s magnetic fields, which could have implications for Earth’s environment and human fertility. However, he clarifies that his research has not conclusively linked these magnetic shifts to the specific events predicted for 2012.
Maurice Cotterell continues to explore the numerical significance of the Mayan calendar, discussing its connection to solar cycles and magnetic fields. He touches upon the correlation between the calendar and the sun’s behavior, suggesting that the Mayans had advanced knowledge of astronomical events and their potential impact on Earth.
Cotterell then shifts the discussion to the Holy Grail, claiming he has identified it and that it’s located in the National Museum of Ireland in Dublin. He believes this artifact is the cup used by Christ and his disciples, linking it to the same divine knowledge encoded by ancient civilizations like the Mayas and Peruvians. By comparing various sources and artifacts, Cotterell asserts that he has pieced together evidence pointing to the cup’s true identity as the Grail.
Maurice Cotterell continues to elaborate on his findings regarding the Holy Grail, which he asserts is housed in the National Museum of Ireland. He explains how the Ardagh Chalice, found in 1868 in Ireland, aligns with depictions of the Holy Grail from Arthurian legends. Cotterell draws connections between this chalice, the stories of King Arthur, and other ancient artifacts to argue that the chalice is indeed the Holy Grail.
Cotterell also discusses the reincarnations of Jesus Christ, proposing that figures like Krishna, Tutankhamen, Buddha, and Chin Shi Huang Di were manifestations of Christ in different cultural contexts. He emphasizes the similarities in their life stories, miracles, and teachings, suggesting a unified divine message across various religions and epochs.
However, when discussing the differences between major world religions, Cotterell points out that he does not consider Muhammad to align with his concept of the “super god” or reincarnations of Jesus. He contrasts Muhammad’s life and actions with those of the other figures he mentions, highlighting disparities in their teachings and the impact on their respective religions.
Cotterell answers questions from callers, explaining the distinction between the voltage (life force) of a living person and the absence of voltage in a deceased person. He clarifies that the Mayan calendar’s purpose was more spiritual and informational, unlike conventional calendars designed for astronomical tracking. He emphasizes that understanding the Mayan calendar requires a modern grasp of solar and magnetic cycles, suggesting that we are now reaching an intellectual point where we can decipher the spiritual wisdom encoded by the ancients.
Addressing a question about the potential impact of the solar system passing through the galactic plane in 2012, Cotterell expresses skepticism about its significance, prioritizing cycles with clear beginnings, middles, and ends, and causal relationships with observable phenomena.
Cotterell suggests that the Egyptians believed one could become a star after death, implying a broader, cosmic perspective on the soul’s journey. Cotterell also discusses the challenges of human survival in different solar systems, highlighting the influence of the Sun’s magnetic fields on human diversity and conflict.
He shares an experiment with bees, aiming to understand how environmental factors, including radiation and magnetic fields, might influence their development. This exploration raises questions about the broader implications of magnetic and electric radiations on life forms and their evolutionary processes.
Maurice Cotterell delves into the concept of out-of-body experiences and the potential risks involved, as mentioned in the Book of Ecclesiastes, contrasting it with the belief that the soul’s connection to the body is unbreakable.
Cotterell addresses questions about the associations between planets, particularly Venus and Mars, and their mythological significance. He explains Venus’s connection to love and Jesus, contrasting it with Mars’s association with war. This discussion extends to the visibility of these planets in the night sky and their positions relative to the Sun.
Additionally, a caller raises concerns about the collapse of honeybee populations, hinting at a possible connection to solar cycles and magnetic fields, which Cotterell acknowledges as a valid area of inquiry.
Cotterell discusses the possible reasons behind the collapse of honeybee populations, suggesting it might be related to changes in solar radiation or the Earth’s magnetic field, which bees use for navigation. Cotterell notes that this phenomenon is not exclusive to North America, mentioning reports of similar occurrences in Europe.
A caller inquires about the nature of material existence and its relation to evil. Cotterell explains this using Einstein’s E=mc² equation, positing that if we consider God as pure energy (positive voltage), then the material world (mass) would inherently be its opposite (negative voltage), implying that the physical realm is essentially the opposite of divine or heavenly existence.
Another caller asks about the Gnostic texts, such as the Gospel of Mary Magdalene and the Gospel of Judas. Cotterell expresses skepticism about the Gospel of Judas due to its heavy promotion by modern institutions but acknowledges the value in other Gnostic texts. He suggests these texts offer important spiritual insights, even though they were excluded from the canonical Bible, often due to their lack of alignment with the prevailing religious views at the time.
Maurice Cotterell discusses his views on reincarnation and its potential inclusion in earlier versions of the Bible. He suggests that references to reincarnation exist in the Bible, citing examples that imply the return of souls to Earth. Cotterell believes that a clearer understanding of reincarnation within Christian teachings could have profound implications for human behavior and ethics, potentially leading to more mindful actions and adherence to the concept of karma.
Cotterell also emphasizes the importance of his books, particularly recommending “Jesus, King Arthur, and the Journey of the Grail” for a comprehensive insight into his research and theories. He notes that each of his books builds upon the previous ones, covering various civilizations and their connections to the overarching themes of divine wisdom, reincarnation, and the soul’s journey.