In the opening segment of “Dark Matter,” Art Bell warmly welcomes his audience to the show, emphasizing the joy of being on air and setting a primary rule for the show: no bad language. Art then shifts to discuss the intriguing topic of WR 104, a potential gamma-ray burst, which poses a significant threat to Earth. He encourages listeners to view images and simulations of WR 104 on his website, highlighting the seriousness of such cosmic events.
Art moves on to address current events, starting with the Naval Yard shooting. He expresses his opinion that the focus should not be on gun control but rather on addressing mental health issues, particularly targeting those who hear voices. Art argues for better counseling and monitoring of individuals with secret clearances who exhibit signs of mental illness.
Furthermore, Art touches upon international issues, such as Iran’s fluctuating stance on social media access and Brazil’s intention to detach from the US-centric internet due to concerns over US online surveillance. He also comments on the global implications of the Concordia’s salvage operation in Italy, the UN Security Council’s resolution on Syria’s chemical weapons, and the recent typhoon in Japan, which led to the unfortunate release of radioactive water into the ocean.
Finally, Art concludes the segment by criticizing Russian President Putin’s remarks on American exceptionalism and its alleged role in the Naval Yard shooting. Art attributes the incident to mental health issues rather than political ideologies.
Art Bell begins by encouraging listeners to join him on social media, particularly on Twitter (@ArtBell51) and Facebook, although he mentions his Facebook page is already full. Art emphasizes the importance of social media for announcements and interactions with his audience.
He then shifts to explain how listeners can access the show on demand. Art provides detailed instructions for navigating the Sirius XM website to find past episodes of “Dark Matter,” highlighting the availability of commercial-free archived shows that can be paused and resumed at any point, ensuring listeners don’t miss out on any content. He notes that the total showtime, excluding commercials, is about three and a half hours and mentions the show’s presence on iTunes.
Art introduces Dr. Steven M. Greer, a prominent figure in the UFO community and founder of the Disclosure Project and other related initiatives. He briefly describes Dr. Greer’s extensive work in promoting the disclosure of extraterrestrial life forms and advanced energy technologies. He highlights Dr. Greer’s achievements, including the historic National Press Club disclosure event in May 2001, where military, government, intelligence, and corporate witnesses presented evidence of extraterrestrial life and advanced technologies.
Dr. Greer joins the show, and Art proposes to split the show into two halves. In the first half, Art challenges Dr. Greer to convince non-believers of the reality of UFOs and extraterrestrials. Dr. Greer emphasizes the weight of evidence available, mentioning his new website, SiriusDisclosure.com, which hosts witness testimonies, government documents, photographic, and video evidence supporting the existence of UFOs and extraterrestrial life.
Dr. Steven Greer delves into the evidence supporting the existence of extraterrestrial life and UFOs. He recounts his presentation to a group of world leaders, including former high-ranking officials like Bill and Hillary Clinton and the Director of National Intelligence for the United States, where he emphasized the reality of UFOs using substantial evidence.
Dr. Greer references Professor Hermann Oberth, a pioneer of rocket technology, who openly stated his belief that flying saucers are real and from another solar system. He points out that despite the surrounding misinformation, there’s an undeniable core of credible evidence. For instance, President Truman, after the Roswell events, assured that flying saucers, if they exist, are not of Earthly origin. Similarly, General Nathan Twining, involved in the Roswell incident, described UFOs as real, disk-shaped objects exhibiting extraordinary maneuverability beyond natural phenomena.
Highlighting the CIA’s interest in UFOs, Dr. Greer mentions Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter, the first CIA Director, who advocated for public disclosure of UFO information, citing the dangers of secrecy rather than the UFOs themselves. This aligns with President Eisenhower’s concerns about the uncontrolled power of the military-industrial complex.
Dr. Greer then narrates an incident involving a Japan Airlines cargo jet in the 1980s, which encountered a massive UFO larger than a battleship. The event was confirmed by multiple radars and involved non-linear movements of the UFO, challenging conventional physics. John Callahan, former head of a division in the FAA, provided substantial evidence for this encounter, including radar tapes and pilot accounts. This case was discussed at a high-level meeting with representatives from the CIA, White House, and FBI, yet remained undisclosed to the public.
In this continuation of the interview with Dr. Steven Greer on “Dark Matter,” the discussion delves into the complexities and secrecy surrounding the topic of UFOs and extraterrestrial intelligence. Dr. Greer shares an intriguing story about a high-level meeting where he presented evidence of UFOs. He recounts that the CIA ordered all materials related to a well-documented UFO encounter to be handed over and kept secret. However, John Callahan, who attended the meeting, had kept original copies, which he later gave to Dr. Greer.
Dr. Greer discusses the overwhelming amount of evidence available, including thousands of documented cases of UFO landings and radar tracings. He expresses frustration about why such compelling evidence is not regularly featured in major media outlets.
The conversation shifts to the structure of government secrecy regarding UFOs. Dr. Greer explains that there are two tracks in government programs: the ordinary track dealing with conventional affairs and a parallel track for ‘black projects’ or unacknowledged programs, which include UFO-related information. This compartmentalization means that even high-ranking officials like the Secretary of Defense or CIA Director might not be privy to information on UFOs.
Dr. Greer reflects on his experience briefing CIA Director R. James Woolsey during President Clinton’s administration. He was skeptical at first, but the meeting, which lasted nearly three hours, revealed the extent of the secrecy and the exclusion of high-level officials from UFO-related information. This situation, he notes, began in the 1950s and 60s and has led to a dysfunctional and complex system of secrecy.
Art Bell expresses his astonishment at Dr. Greer’s experiences and requests more details about his meeting with the CIA Director. Dr. Greer, an emergency and trauma doctor by profession, shares the personal stress and challenges he faced while engaging in these high-level briefings and his efforts to disclose information about extraterrestrial intelligence.
This segment ends with Dr. Greer beginning to describe the contents of his briefcase, which he brought to the meeting with the CIA Director, containing substantial evidence of UFO encounters and government documents.
Dr. Steven Greer discusses his meeting with CIA Director R. James Woolsey and other high-level government officials, shedding light on the deep-seated secrecy surrounding UFOs and extraterrestrial intelligence.
Dr. Greer recounts how Woolsey, despite being the CIA Director, was kept in the dark about UFOs. This was a revelation to Woolsey, who had previously witnessed a UFO. The director was keen to understand the reasons behind the secrecy. Greer shared his astonishment at learning that even individuals at such high levels of government were often excluded from the confidential UFO-related projects.
Greer also met with French Air Force and intelligence officials, discussing the immense ‘black budget’ of the United States, which he estimated to be between $100 and $200 billion annually. This budget, according to Greer, funds deeply compartmentalized projects, including those related to UFOs, which are often unknown to top government officials.
Greer’s discussion then turns to the dysfunction within the system, where even high-ranking officials like the Secretary of Defense or the CIA Director might not be privy to information on UFOs. He describes the system as dangerously out of control and labyrinthine in its complexity.
The segment concludes with Dr. Greer sharing a story about General Patrick Hughes, head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, who was also uninformed about UFO projects. Hughes’ only piece of information was a toy ET doll, symbolizing the level of ignorance even at the top levels of defense intelligence.
Dr. Steven Greer shares the story of Gordon Cooper, an early Mercury astronaut and one of the witnesses for the Disclosure Project. Cooper had encountered a UFO landing at Edwards Air Force Base in 1956. He and his team captured this incident on film, which was subsequently sent to the Pentagon.
Years later, when Gordon Cooper addressed the Federalist Society in Washington, D.C., along with Dr. Greer, he revealed that former Secretary of Defense William Cohen had expressed interest in retrieving the footage of the UFO incident. Despite Cohen’s high-ranking position, he was unable to access this classified material, which Dr. Greer explains is typical of the secrecy surrounding UFO phenomena.
Dr. Greer then elaborates on the concept of Unacknowledged Special Access Projects (USAPs), which are highly secretive and operate beyond the reach of even high-ranking government officials. He shares an anecdote about a colleague involved in a USAP, describing the extreme measures taken to ensure secrecy, including a threat of death for disclosure.
Additionally, Dr. Greer discusses the significant amount of money that goes into these black projects, citing Donald Rumsfeld’s statement about $2.3 trillion missing from the Department of Defense budget. This missing amount, according to Greer, is likely much higher now and is being funneled into secretive projects, including those related to UFOs and extraterrestrial intelligence.
Art Bell discusses Dr. Steven Greer’s background and how he managed to balance his career in emergency medicine with his deep involvement in UFO research and disclosure. Dr. Greer shares that his established reputation as a competent physician and his early interest in space and UFOs, influenced by his uncle’s involvement in the lunar module program, helped him navigate any potential career risks.
The conversation then shifts to Art Bell highlighting the importance of what Dr. Greer is sharing, urging listeners who may be skeptical about UFOs to pay close attention to the evidence and stories being presented.
Dr. Greer continues discussing the secrecy surrounding UFOs and extraterrestrial intelligence. He emphasizes that many government officials, even those in high-ranking positions, are often unaware of the UFO-related projects and their details. This lack of knowledge, according to Dr. Greer, is due to the highly compartmentalized nature of these projects, where even inquiries from top officials can’t penetrate the veil of secrecy. He points out that many officials who publicly deny the existence of UFOs are not necessarily lying; they genuinely do not have access to the information.
Dr. Greer also addresses the military’s stance on UFOs not being a threat to national security. He believes that UFOs are not a threat, based on his research and discussions with military personnel at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and other locations involved in handling UFO incidents.
Dr. Steven Greer continues to discuss the topic of UFOs and national security. He shares that electromagnetic weapons had been used to down UFOs, and these incidents were handled primarily at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, particularly in the post-World War II period.
Dr. Greer recalls a meeting at Wright-Patterson with the head of the Foreign Aerospace Science and Technology Center. During this meeting, he was asked if UFOs posed a threat to national security. Dr. Greer responded that while they technically could be a threat, given their advanced interstellar travel capabilities, they have not shown hostile intent. He argues that if their intent was hostile, it would have been evident since the first atomic weapon detonation at the Trinity site in 1945.
The discussion then turns to specific incidents involving UFOs and nuclear weapons facilities. Dr. Greer mentions an event where UFOs rendered 16 intercontinental ballistic missiles at Minot Air Force Base, North Dakota, non-operational. Similar incidents occurred in the Soviet Union, suggesting that the UFOs were sending a message about the dangers of nuclear weapons, rather than displaying hostility.
Art Bell points out that the military might perceive these actions as a significant threat. Dr. Greer agrees, acknowledging the military’s perspective but maintains that the overarching message from these incidents was a caution against mutual assured destruction through nuclear warfare.
Dr. Greer discusses events in the Soviet Union where UFOs similarly interfered with nuclear missiles, reinforcing his view that these actions were intended to provoke reconsideration of nuclear strategies rather than to exhibit aggression.
Dr. Steven Greer shares more about the interaction between UFOs and military installations, particularly focusing on incidents involving nuclear weapons. He recounts an event at Vandenberg Air Force Base where a witness, Professor Jacobs, observed a UFO neutralizing an intercontinental missile during a test launch. Following his disclosure of this event, Jacobs faced significant threats and harassment.
Dr. Greer then discusses similar occurrences in the Soviet Union and in European countries like France and Britain. He specifically mentions the Rendlesham Forest incident at a joint US-UK airbase, which was a covert nuclear weapons facility. This incident involved a black pyramid-shaped craft that left physical evidence on the ground. The Ministry of Defense of Great Britain later confirmed these details, which had been initially denied and obscured.
Highlighting the secrecy surrounding these events, Dr. Greer shares his conversation with Lord Hill-Norton, former head of the Ministry of Defense in Great Britain. Lord Hill-Norton was unaware of these UFO events during his tenure, only learning about them afterward, which led to his frustration and anger about being kept in the dark.
The discussion then shifts to the structure of secrecy within governments. Dr. Greer suggests that there is a “government within or beyond a government” that controls information about UFOs. This hidden governance, he asserts, is what President Eisenhower warned about in his speech on the military-industrial complex.
Dr. Greer addresses the topic of disclosure. He argues that while disclosure would benefit the vast majority of humanity, a very small elite group, deeply vested in the status quo, particularly in the oil, gas, and coal industries, would resist such change. Dr. Greer advocates for the replacement of these industries with technologies that could explain UFO propulsion systems, suggesting that such advancements could revolutionize energy and transportation.
Dr. Steven Greer discusses the technological aspects of UFOs and the implications for energy and propulsion systems. He emphasizes that UFOs do not operate using conventional fuels like jet fuel or rockets, suggesting advanced technology beyond our current understanding.
Dr. Greer cites a top-secret Canadian document from 1951 by Wilbur Smith, who led Project Magnet. Smith’s document states that UFOs and their propulsion systems were of higher classification than the H-bomb. He mentions Dr. Vannevar Bush, a key figure in the Manhattan Project, who was involved in studying UFO technology. By October 1954, according to a source from the Naval Research Labs, the United States had allegedly mastered “gravity control,” a breakthrough in energy and propulsion technology.
The discussion then shifts to the broader implications of this technology. Dr. Greer argues that the continued use of oil, gas, and coal is an artifice, maintained due to the vast wealth and assets tied to these resources. He believes that revealing this advanced technology would benefit most of humanity, especially in terms of environmental sustainability and addressing global poverty. However, he points out that the current geopolitical power structure and the financial interests of the “masters of the universe” in the banking and energy sectors are significant barriers to disclosure.
Dr. Greer contends that the secrecy surrounding UFOs and their technology is now an existential threat to civilization, echoing the concerns of the first CIA director about the dangers of secrecy. He asserts that he understands the principles of how these UFOs operate and has seen demonstrations of such technology, including high-voltage systems capable of levitation and propulsion, developed based on UFO technologies.
Dr. Steven Greer delves deeper into the physics behind the propulsion systems of UFOs. He discusses the concept of extracting energy from the zero-point energy field or quantum vacuum. According to Dr. Greer, this involves using high-voltage systems at certain resonant frequencies to create a vector into the zero-point energy field, allowing for the extraction of a massive amount of power from what is essentially empty space.
Dr. Greer references the Casimir effect, a phenomenon in quantum physics that has been experimentally verified, as evidence for the existence of zero-point energy. He explains that while this concept has been proven in physics journals, its practical application remains largely unexplored or undisclosed.
The conversation shifts to Dr. Greer’s experiences with high voltage systems and their potential to harness energy. He describes witnessing objects floating and hovering using a high voltage system at a facility near the Huntsville Space Flight Center. This system was later reproduced at the Naval Research Labs.
Art Bell then shares his experience with an antenna he owns, which generates its voltage without any apparent source. Dr. Greer explains this phenomenon by the electromagnetic potential associated with the Earth, noting that it’s a well-known fact that there’s a voltage difference between the ground and higher altitudes. He suggests that Nikola Tesla might have experimented with similar principles.
Dr. Greer elaborates on the concept of zero-point energy. He clarifies that it is the energy remaining in any volume of space even at absolute zero temperature, where all atomic movement ceases. This energy, according to Dr. Greer, has been tapped into for over a hundred years by scientists like Faraday and Tesla through high-voltage systems. He argues that this doesn’t violate the laws of thermodynamics but rather utilizes energy that has been overlooked or not accounted for in traditional calculations.
Dr. Steven Greer discusses Nikola Tesla’s experiments, including an electric car that recharged itself via an antenna. Dr. Greer reveals that when Tesla died, the FBI confiscated all his papers, and there was a documented demand from the Department of Defense for these files, which the FBI refused to turn over.
Dr. Greer explains that the secrecy surrounding UFOs and extraterrestrial issues is less about aliens and more about power, money, and the control of energy resources. He argues that the last major breakthroughs in energy and propulsion, like the internal combustion engine, jet engines, and atomic bombs, were many decades ago, and it’s implausible to believe there haven’t been significant advancements since.
He then discusses the suppression of these advanced technologies. Dr. Greer references a report by the Federation of American Scientists on 5,135 patents seized under the National Security Act. One example he gives is a highly efficient photovoltaic generator from 1971, which was seized under a national security order. This generator could have competed with oil and coal, raising questions about the misuse of state power to suppress advancements in energy technology.
Dr. Greer shares a personal experience of suppression, recounting how he funded a project to develop a “free energy” generator. However, the project was halted when a former CIA director and other individuals threatened the inventor, leading to the abandonment of the project despite the investment and potential of the technology. This inventor was working alone, making him vulnerable to such intimidation, and ultimately he ceased his work due to the threats to his and his wife’s life.
Dr. Greer emphasizes the need for a different approach to developing and protecting these technologies. He suggests creating a research and development lab where inventors can collaborate and be supported in a secure environment. He proposes streaming their work live to deter potential threats and to ensure transparency.
He also advises against trying to protect such inventions through patents or intellectual property rights, as it becomes a losing battle against a system that is rigged to suppress such technologies. Instead, Dr. Greer advocates for quickly releasing these technologies to the public domain and having multiple independent academic centers reproduce the technology to ensure it cannot be suppressed.
Dr. Greer acknowledges the real fear and danger that inventors face, sharing that even he would be deterred by credible threats against his family. He underscores the importance of learning from past mistakes and adopting a strategy that avoids secrecy and leverages public disclosure to protect inventors and their revolutionary work.
The conversation then shifts to the geopolitical implications of transitioning away from oil and other fossil fuels. Dr. Greer suggests that the centralization of power in the current world system is a significant barrier to change. He argues that transitioning to new energy technologies would lead to a reduction in this centralized power and could lift developing countries out of poverty.
Art Bell plays devil’s advocate, suggesting that a sudden transition away from oil could lead to economic disruption. Dr. Greer acknowledges this possibility but argues that the risks of not transitioning (such as environmental catastrophe and conflict over resources) are greater. He emphasizes the need to move towards sustainable energy technologies to avoid these risks.
In this segment of “Dark Matter,” Dr. Steven Greer discusses the practical and geopolitical implications of transitioning from fossil fuels to advanced energy technologies. He acknowledges the challenges of transitioning to new energy systems, emphasizing that it won’t be an immediate process but rather a gradual shift over a period of approximately 15 to 20 years.
Dr. Greer argues that the transition to these new technologies can be managed in a way that allows for a “soft landing” out of the fossil fuel economy. He envisions a world where each home or business could have its own zero-point or vacuum energy generator, significantly reducing dependence on traditional energy sources. However, he also recognizes that this transition would disrupt the current geopolitical power structure, which is heavily reliant on fossil fuels.
Art Bell questions the feasibility of a soft landing, suggesting that the economic impact of such a transition could be dramatic. Dr. Greer acknowledges that there would be significant economic challenges, but he argues that the alternative — continued reliance on fossil fuels leading to environmental catastrophe and geopolitical conflicts over resources — is far worse.
The conversation also touches on the potential weaponization of these advanced technologies. Dr. Greer mentions a meeting with an Air Force colonel involved in “future technologies,” hinting at the military’s interest in using gravity control technology for fast, advanced propulsion systems.
Dr. Steven Greer talks about the acknowledgement of Area 51 by the government, noting that while its existence is now recognized, the activities conducted there are still downplayed. Dr. Greer suggests that the truly critical facilities are located elsewhere, such as at Dugway Proving Grounds in Utah.
He then touches on the concept that many UFOs observed near military bases like Edwards and Nellis Air Force Base (Area 51) are actually man-made, using advanced electromagnetic propulsion technologies. The discussion shifts to the idea that significant developments and important facilities are located underground, away from public view.
Dr. Greer shares information about the beings from the Roswell crash, including that one of them reportedly survived and was moved between various bases over the years. He also mentions that some of the crashed UFOs and their occupants have been stored at different locations, including an underground facility at Fort Huachuca in Arizona.
Regarding the transition to advanced energy technologies, Dr. Greer acknowledges the difficulties of achieving a “soft landing” from fossil fuels to new energy sources. He compares it to a gradual turn of a massive supertanker, emphasizing that it’s about managing a long-term transition rather than an instant switch. Dr. Greer argues that although the transition will be challenging, it is necessary to avoid more severe consequences in the future.
Dr. Greer recounts a conversation with Goldwater, who expressed regret that the information about UFOs and advanced technologies had been kept secret. Goldwater had inquired about accessing the so-called “Blue Room” at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, which was rumored to hold UFO-related materials, but was denied access.
Dr. Steven Greer recounts a conversation with Senator Barry Goldwater, who shared a story about General Curtis LeMay denying him access to the “Blue Room” at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, a rumored storage site for UFO-related materials.
Dr. Greer then addresses the challenges of transitioning from fossil fuels to new energy sources. He argues that this transition, while not easy, is necessary to avoid more severe consequences in the future. He suggests that the process will take time, likening it to turning a massive supertanker, and emphasizes the importance of managing the transition intelligently to mitigate economic impacts.
Art Bell questions how such a transition could occur without causing economic collapse. Dr. Greer acknowledges the potential for significant economic disruption but argues that the current situation, with widespread poverty and environmental degradation, is already catastrophic. He suggests that transitioning to new energy sources would be a relative “soft landing” compared to the alternative future of continued reliance on fossil fuels.
Dr. Greer proposes using the internet to disseminate information about these new technologies widely, bypassing traditional secrecy and patent avenues. He believes that once a working system is developed and independently tested, it should be shared globally and replicated by engineers worldwide to ensure it cannot be suppressed.
Dr. Steven Greer recounts the story of a physicist at Lawrence Berkeley Labs who developed a crystal that, when energized at a certain frequency, produced ten times more power output than input. This physicist was subsequently intimidated and institutionalized, demonstrating the lengths to which some entities will go to suppress such technologies.
Dr. Greer emphasizes the need for a collaborative and open environment to develop these technologies. He proposes the creation of an energy research lab where the work can be done openly and observed in real-time over the internet, offering some protection against suppression.
He also discusses Stanley Meyer, who claimed to have developed a car that ran on water by dissociating hydrogen and oxygen from water using energy from the zero-point field. Meyer’s patents were altered to prevent replication, and after his sudden death in 1996, his materials were acquired by a large corporation. Dr. Greer mentions that he has identified individuals who worked with Meyer and who understand the principles behind his technology.
Dr. Greer emphasizes the importance of bringing together people who understand the physics behind these advanced technologies in a safe and supportive environment to develop them further. This approach, he believes, is essential for overcoming the barriers to introducing free energy technologies and ensuring the safety of those involved.
Dr. Steven Greer and Art Bell discuss the challenges and potential approaches to introducing zero-point energy and similar advanced technologies into society. Dr. Greer emphasizes the relative nature of what he calls a “soft landing,” acknowledging the difficulties but stressing the necessity of transitioning away from fossil fuels to avoid catastrophic consequences.
Art Bell expresses skepticism about the feasibility of a smooth transition, questioning how such a fundamental change in energy sources could occur without severe economic repercussions. Dr. Greer admits that there will be significant economic impacts, especially on the oil futures and commodities markets. However, he highlights the broader perspective of global poverty and the need for practical energy solutions for a growing world population.
The discussion also touches on current renewable energy efforts, such as large solar collection facilities in Nevada and California. While acknowledging their efficiency improvements, Dr. Greer points out the high costs associated with these projects and argues that they are not sufficient solutions for the global energy crisis.
Dr. Greer then recounts a conversation with an energy advisor during George W. Bush’s presidency, revealing a mindset among policymakers to avoid supervising significant changes and maintain the status quo. He argues that the disclosure of advanced technologies would be transformative for the planet, dwarfing all changes since the 1850s.
Art Bell suggests introducing these technologies gradually, starting with a “toy” that demonstrates over-unity energy production, to which Dr. Greer agrees but also notes the importance of making a more substantial impact. He mentions existing small-scale demonstrations, like tritium batteries exhibiting over-unity, but emphasizes the need for a more significant breakthrough to truly change the dialogue and approach to energy.
Dr. Steven Greer reflects on the ridicule and secrecy that have overshadowed the UFO subject, noting that this stems from the profound implications of such phenomena, rather than from its inherent silliness.
Dr. Greer mentions a CIA document from 1953 discussing the use of Disney Studios to produce cartoons about extraterrestrials and UFOs to make the subject seem frivolous. He contrasts this with the serious concern expressed by the first CIA director about UFOs, underscoring the significant implications of the issue.
Art Bell shifts the conversation to inquire about human contact with extraterrestrial beings. Dr. Greer discusses the possibility of individual contact experiences and speculates on the likelihood of official government contact. He mentions an incident involving President Eisenhower meeting with extraterrestrials at Edwards Air Force Base in 1956. However, Dr. Greer suggests that such attempts at open contact became dysfunctional due to misguided motivations.
Dr. Greer then explains the Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind (CE-5) initiative, which he started to train people in making contact with extraterrestrial civilizations using consciousness and other technologies. He shares experiences from these initiatives, including photographic and video evidence, and describes an incident in Joshua Tree National Park where a spherical object appeared, followed by unusual sounds and a holographic-like figure.
He emphasizes the transdimensional nature of extraterrestrial intelligence, explaining that their ability to move beyond the speed of light and traverse dimensions makes their appearances strange and unpredictable. Dr. Greer argues that understanding extraterrestrial contact requires a new comprehension of physics and space-time, as these beings can traverse through dimensions to travel between star systems.
Dr. Steven Greer describes an incident at Altus Air Force Base in Oklahoma, where a translucent, cobalt blue object appeared over a nuclear weapons area, setting off alarms despite not being fully materialized in this dimension.
Dr. Greer explains that during World War II, the phenomena known as “Foo Fighters” were observed by both the Allies and Axis powers. He shares a story about General Jimmy Doolittle, who was sent by President Roosevelt to investigate these objects and reportedly concluded they were interplanetary vehicles.
Art Bell raises the common question of why extraterrestrials don’t make more overt contact, such as landing on the White House lawn. Dr. Greer suggests that extraterrestrials are waiting for humans to reach a level of peaceful, non-militarized readiness for contact. He points out that significant public sightings, like the ones in Montreal in 1990 and Belgium between 1989-1992, have already occurred but have not been adequately covered by the media.
Dr. Greer argues that the response to extraterrestrial phenomena serves as a cosmic mirror, reflecting more about human society than about the extraterrestrial civilizations themselves. He believes that extraterrestrials are observing whether humans can handle disclosure and contact in a mature and peaceful manner.
Art Bell inquires about the productivity of Dr. Greer’s initiatives to initiate contact with extraterrestrials. Dr. Greer asserts that these efforts have been productive and are ongoing, indicating a continuous pursuit of establishing peaceful contact with extraterrestrial civilizations.
Dr. Steven Greer recounts a sighting at Altus Air Force Base where a translucent object appeared, moving over an area with nuclear weapons. This event illustrates the non-conventional, often partially materialized, nature of these encounters.
Dr. Greer also touches on historical encounters during World War II, known as “Foo Fighters,” where both sides observed unusual aerial phenomena, initially mistaking them for secret weapons of the enemy. He shares an anecdote about General Jimmy Doolittle, who reported to President Roosevelt that these were interplanetary vehicles.
Addressing Art Bell’s question about why extraterrestrials don’t make overt contact, such as landing on the White House lawn, Dr. Greer suggests that ETs are waiting for humans to reach a certain level of peaceful readiness. He believes that extraterrestrials communicate through non-verbal, consciousness-based means, such as remote viewing, which he has been exploring and teaching through his Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind (CE-5) initiative.
Dr. Greer explains that significant contact has already occurred on an individual level, with many people experiencing interactions with ETs through states of heightened consciousness. He proposes the concept of “consciousness-assisted technologies” and “technology-assisted consciousness,” where ETs use devices that interface directly with thought and consciousness. These devices can both augment ETs’ thought and consciousness and allow them to navigate their craft or communicate at speeds beyond light.
Dr. Steven Greer touches upon the work of physicist Gus Duany and astronaut Edgar Mitchell, who have explored the concept of consciousness not being limited by space and time. Dr. Greer suggests that contact with extraterrestrial civilizations involves a new type of physics that integrates awareness and consciousness.
Art Bell brings up his interview with Edgar Mitchell, noting the astronaut’s inability to vividly recall his moonwalking experience. Dr. Greer suggests that Mitchell’s transformative experience on the moon led him to a deeper understanding of consciousness, which might have been challenging to articulate in a conventional interview setting.
Dr. Greer also discusses reported sightings of UFOs by astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong during the Apollo 11 moon landing. He claims that large UFOs were observed near the landing site but that this information was not disclosed to the public. According to Dr. Greer, this is one reason why Armstrong became reclusive, not wanting to deceive the public about what really happened.
Further, Dr. Greer mentions the Lunar Orbiter program, which allegedly photographed old and new structures on the moon. These structures, seen in the twilight area of the moon, suggest that humans were not alone when they first landed on the moon.
The segment concludes with Dr. Greer reiterating the importance of public awareness and open discussion he conversation transitions from Dr. Steven Greer’s interview to open lines with Art Bell’s listeners. The discussion reflects on Dr. Greer’s extensive commentary on extraterrestrial contact, advanced energy technologies, and the potential of human consciousness.
One caller from Sacramento describes a friend who invented a free power machine, but was imprisoned on charges of mail fraud. The caller believes this was a government attempt to suppress the invention. The caller also confirms Dr. Greer’s assertions about threats to inventors in this field, mentioning the example of a water car he saw in the Philippines.
Another caller from Cebu, Philippines, expresses excitement about listening to Art Bell’s show and shares his experience of using internet radio and internet telephone services to stay connected with the program. This international perspective emphasizes the global reach and interest in topics like extraterrestrial contact and advanced technologies.
One caller from Montana, expressing appreciation for Art Bell’s return to radio, recounts his experience of listening to Bell’s show during his night shifts as a young police officer. He also mentions a video made by a fan that emotionally resonated with many listeners, including himself.
Another caller, using Skype with a poor connection, attempts to discuss a device he claims can connect to “eternity” through physics, fire, and vibration. However, the conversation is hindered by technical issues and the call is terminated.
A caller from Fort Lauderdale raises several points, including a request for SiriusXM to display channel numbers on mobile devices, a suggestion for a music inversion segment, and a discussion on the secrecy surrounding extraterrestrial life. The caller speculates that the silence on this issue might be due to fears of disrupting religious beliefs and the perceived cataclysmic impact it would have on society. He also touches upon the significant influence of oil in global politics and economics.
Art Bell acknowledges the caller’s points, particularly noting the potential impact of extraterrestrial disclosure on religious beliefs and the importance of oil in geopolitical affairs.
One caller from Ohio congratulates Art Bell on the launch of “Dark Matter” and inquires about his experience with digital forms of ham radio communication. They discuss the emerging technology of digital reflectors in amateur radio, noting its high cost and comparing it to traditional FM radio. Art expresses his preference for the sound quality of FM and shares his frustrations with the audio quality of cell phones, wishing for better sound clarity.
Another caller from Oregon discusses the concept of the “elusive variant agenda,” suggesting that a hidden force, possibly related to Lucifer, might be influencing events on Earth. Art Bell expresses skepticism about such theories, believing that humans are primarily responsible for the events shaping the world. He mentions the recent spate of shootings and suggests that instead of focusing on gun control, there should be more emphasis on mental health treatment for individuals hearing voices or showing signs of distress.
Another caller shares a bizarre story about his neighborhood’s efforts to drive out a drug-using resident. The story escalates to illegal surveillance, blackmail, and eventually, the financial ruin of the targeted individual. This tale, while extreme, reflects the complexity and moral ambiguity of human interactions and decisions.
Another caller from Portland, Oregon, inquires about Art Bell’s plans for Halloween, expressing interest in ghost story segments. Art confirms that he intends to continue this tradition, highlighting the show’s engagement with paranormal topics.
A caller from Philadelphia asks about shadow people, prompting Art to describe his own experiences and the common sightings of shadowy figures with hats and trench coats. Art mentions that while he has observed movement in his peripheral vision, he has never directly interacted with a shadow person.
The conversation shifts to Art Bell’s life in Pahrump, Nevada, where he discusses his full-time residency due to his daughter’s schooling and plans for occasional visits to the Philippines. The caller expresses support for Art Bell’s show and its schedule, indicating the strong listener loyalty and interest in Art’s work.
One caller discusses his dissatisfaction with the direction Coast to Coast AM took after Art Bell’s departure, praising Bell’s confrontational and straightforward interviewing style. Art acknowledges that the show did change under different hosts, each bringing their own style to the program.
Another caller from Kalamazoo, Michigan, shares a UFO story about his father, a logger who witnessed a strange object emerging from a lake. While Art appreciates the story, he emphasizes the impact and authenticity of first-person encounters with UFOs. He shares his own experience of seeing a silent, floating triangular object, describing how such sightings can profoundly affect individuals.
A caller from Sedona brings up a past interview Art conducted with Dr. Steven Greer, where a threatening message was played. This leads to a discussion about the real dangers faced by individuals dealing with sensitive topics like UFOs and government secrets. The conversation touches on the mysterious deaths of microbiologists, suggesting that those who delve into certain fields may attract unwanted and dangerous attention.
A caller from Michigan discusses the idea that disclosure about extraterrestrial life and advanced technology might be suppressed to prevent mass panic or societal upheaval. Art Bell suggests that the goal might be to control information rather than to cause a large-scale population reduction.
Another caller shares a story about his father’s UFO sighting, describing a disc-shaped craft with a cockpit, which he now believes might have been a human pilot in a high-altitude suit, possibly from the U.S. Air Force. This story leads to a discussion about the possibility that some UFO sightings could be attributed to highly classified human technology rather than extraterrestrial crafts. Art Bell remarks that if this is true, it implies the existence of advanced anti-gravity technology developed secretly by the government.
The conversation also touches on the potential economic consequences of introducing free energy technology to the market. A caller, who is involved in the oil industry, expresses skepticism about the possibility of a “soft landing” transition away from fossil fuels, predicting significant market crashes and economic turmoil.
Art Bell wraps up the show, reflecting on the discussions and topics covered during the evening. He muses on the various conversations, ranging from UFO sightings and advanced technology to societal and economic implications, acknowledging the complexity and uncertainty surrounding these subjects.
Art Bell concludes the show by expressing his doubts about the feasibility of a smooth transition from fossil fuel dependence to advanced energy technologies. He shares his skepticism about achieving a harmonious balance in the face of such significant changes, comparing it to the unlikely scenario of dogs and cats getting along.