Art begins by expressing his excitement and honor in hosting the show, which caters to listeners across all time zones. The episode takes an unexpected turn when Art introduces a segment about interviewing a self-proclaimed vampire, prompted by an email from a listener named Morgan. Morgan claims to live the vampire lifestyle, engaging in activities such as sleeping in caskets and avoiding sunlight, which Art finds both fascinating and alarming. The discussion explores the playful aspects of vampirism, including socializing in cemeteries and sharing blood, but also touches on its deadly side. Art and Morgan discuss common vampire myths and how they incorporate elements from movies into their lifestyle.
Morgan reveals he was born with a bloodlust, a trait that became evident from a very young age when he first tasted human blood. This pivotal experience, he claims, unlocked higher senses. To satisfy their bloodlust safely, Morgan and his group employ medical techniques, such as using intravenous needles to draw and consume blood, ensuring all members are thoroughly screened and their blood tested to prevent disease transmission.
Morgan describes their community as a close-knit circle or coven of over fifty “vampires,” ranging in age from 21 to 56, who share this unique lifestyle. The process of joining their group is selective, based on a mutual understanding and recognition among vampires, which Morgan describes as a spiritual vibe rather than a physical appearance. He refutes common myths about vampires, emphasizing instead the real, albeit hidden, presence of vampire communities in cities worldwide.
Dispelling traditional notions of vampirism, Morgan asserts that vampires can lead happy and fulfilled lives. He challenges the stereotype of vampires as undead creatures stalking the night, instead portraying a community that embraces its identity while navigating the modern world.
Morgan shares that their community is discreet, ensuring their gatherings, such as those in cemeteries or dedicated nightclubs, do not attract unwanted attention from law enforcement. He highlights the importance of discretion and adherence to the law within the vampire community to avoid any legal issues.
Morgan also discusses the personal side of vampirism, revealing he is married to a vampire, suggesting a deep connection and shared lifestyle that transcends ordinary human relationships. This connection is portrayed as one of profound spiritual significance, with reincarnation and a belief in destined meetings playing a key role in their union.
The conversation takes a more mystical turn as Morgan talks about attempting to develop supernatural abilities, such as levitation and invisibility, through an experiment involving being buried in a casket with only an oxygen tube for three days and three nights. This practice, aimed at enlightening his senses and mastering these abilities, underscores the blend of physical and spiritual practices within the vampire subculture.
Morgan emphasizes caution for those encountering individuals claiming to be vampires, warning of the potential for exploitation by those with malicious intent. He acknowledges a troubled segment within the vampire community, primarily among teens, but insists that such issues are rare.
Morgan confirms the existence of large vampire communities, with thousands of members in major cities, supported by an online presence that includes churches and temples dedicated to vampirism. This revelation prompts Art to verify Morgan’s claims through a quick internet search, which yields an overwhelming number of related links, surprising him with the breadth of the vampire subculture.
Listeners call in with questions, touching on traditional vampire lore such as the aversion to garlic and the quest for a cure for bloodlust. Morgan’s responses further illuminate the personal satisfaction he finds in his lifestyle, despite societal misconceptions and the challenges of living openly as a vampire.
The discussion also explores the spiritual aspects of vampirism, with Morgan describing it as a religion where members worship one another and honor undead gods who have preceded them. This spiritual dimension includes practices like channeling and seeking guidance from past vampires, offering a glimpse into the deeply rooted beliefs and rituals that define their way of life.
Morgan expresses belief in God but has a non-traditional view of hell, not aligning with the fiery brimstone depiction found in Christian doctrine. This leads to discussions on the moral implications of vampirism, with Morgan indicating no fear of damnation, suggesting a different moral compass within the vampire community.
Listener questions further explore the practicalities and ethics of vampirism. Morgan clarifies that vampires do not subsist on blood alone but consume food like any other human, with blood serving a spiritual and necessary role in their lives. He acknowledges the addictive quality of blood consumption, likening it to a narcotic that can cause irritability and a strong dependency among vampires. This dependency sometimes leads to desperate actions, highlighting a darker side of vampirism where the law and societal norms can be challenged.
One caller, claiming to be a friend of Morgan, corroborates Morgan’s lifestyle, having witnessed his coffins and fangs, which adds an element of credibility to Morgan’s claims from a third-party perspective. The conversation touches on the community’s awareness and acceptance of vampires, suggesting a level of integration and mutual respect between vampires and non-vampires in certain circles.
A caller introduces the topic by asking about the relationship between vampires and werewolves, questioning if they share common ground. Morgan confirms interactions with individuals who identify with werewolves, especially during full moons, indicating a broader spectrum of alternative lifestyles within their community. This revelation highlights the diversity and complexity of subcultures that exist on the fringes of mainstream society, where individuals deeply immerse themselves in identities that go beyond conventional human experiences.
The discussion also touches on practical concerns such as the risk of bloodborne diseases, with Morgan reiterating the meticulous screening process for blood donors within their community, emphasizing safety and responsibility in their practices. This part of the conversation sheds light on the highly organized and structured nature of the modern vampire community, which has adapted to contemporary challenges while maintaining its unique cultural practices.
Listeners’ curiosity extends to how one might discover or integrate into the vampire community, with Morgan suggesting the internet and certain nightclubs as gateways. He implies that those with a genuine connection to vampirism will naturally find their way into the community, suggesting a sense of destiny or innate calling that guides individuals to like-minded groups.
Transitioning from the vampire theme, Art shifts the conversation to out-of-body experiences (OBEs), introducing William, an expert on the subject, to the show. This segment explores the distinctions between various states of consciousness, including the relationship between OBEs and near-death experiences (NDEs). William explains that OBEs involve the separation of consciousness from the physical body, which can occur spontaneously around the world and is not necessarily related to the soul leaving the body. This differentiation highlights a broader, more complex view of the universe and our understanding of self, beyond the simplistic dichotomy of body and spirit.
Art and William discuss the commonalities and differences between OBEs and NDEs, with William clarifying that OBEs are part of the phenomena experienced during NDEs but represent only one aspect. The conversation delves into the astral body and its separation from the physical body, which many people interpret as their soul’s departure. This separation is more prevalent in OBEs, which can happen spontaneously during sleep and do not require a near-death situation, contrasting with the more dramatic and life-altering experiences of NDEs.
Art shares his personal experience with an unexpected OBE, emphasizing its suddenness and the profound impact it had on him. William suggests that millions of people experience OBEs daily without understanding what has happened, lacking the context to interpret these experiences correctly. This lack of understanding can lead individuals to misinterpret their experiences as medical emergencies, alien abductions, or even demonic encounters, depending on their cultural and personal frames of reference.
Art’s conversation with William shifts toward a more in-depth examination of out-of-body experiences (OBEs), focusing on their universal nature and historical context. William credits the increased awareness of OBEs to the pioneering work of Dr. Raymond Moody in the 1970s, which introduced the concept to a broader audience. This discussion underscores the relatively recent recognition of OBEs as a significant phenomenon within the realm of human consciousness exploration.
William’s survey, which garnered responses from over 16,000 participants, serves as a foundation for understanding the commonalities and variations in OBE experiences among individuals worldwide. This large-scale feedback provides valuable insights into how often OBEs occur spontaneously during sleep, with a majority happening in the state between wakefulness and sleep known as the hypnagogic state.
The conversation also touches on the scientific and philosophical inquiries surrounding consciousness, dreams, and the nature of sleep. Despite advances in sleep research, the exact mechanisms and implications of the altered states of consciousness experienced during sleep and OBEs remain largely mysterious.
William and Art delve into the personal experiences of individuals who have undergone OBEs, exploring the initial sensations and processes associated with these experiences. This part of the discussion aims to demystify OBEs and encourage listeners to reflect on their own experiences, potentially identifying instances where they may have encountered the beginnings of an OBE without recognizing it.
They discuss common experiences that often precede an OBE, such as sleep paralysis, which a significant portion of respondents have encountered. This state, where one’s consciousness is awake but unable to move the body, is described as one of the most alarming sensations, particularly because it embodies a profound loss of control that is deeply unsettling.
Other frequently reported sensations include buzzing, humming, or roaring sounds, feelings of being lifted, floating, or sinking, the sensation of being touched, and the presence of someone else in the room. Hearing voices, especially familiar ones calling the individual’s name, is another common experience tied to the onset of an OBE. These phenomena serve as precursors to a full-fledged OBE, laying the groundwork for the actual separation of consciousness from the physical body.
The discussion highlights the barriers to experiencing a complete OBE, with fear being a primary obstacle. Many people, upon encountering these initial sensations, react with fright, which prevents the full development of the OBE. Art shares his own experiences, echoing the sentiment that the unfamiliarity and loss of control can be terrifying, especially without prior knowledge or understanding of what is happening.
Despite these fears, Art notes the potential for exploring OBEs further, suggesting that with enough willpower and courage, individuals can consciously engage in and control these experiences.
William and Art continue to discuss the nuances of out-of-body experiences (OBEs), emphasizing the commonality of these phenomena and the initial sensations that often precede them, such as vibrations, sleep paralysis, and auditory phenomena. They highlight how these experiences, though initially unsettling or unpleasant for many, can serve as a launching pad for conscious exploration beyond the physical body. William stresses the importance of surrendering to these sensations rather than resisting them, as understanding and acceptance can transform the experience from fear to a profound exploration of consciousness.
Art shares a personal anecdote of an unexpected, deeply pleasurable OBE he experienced while in Paris, describing it as a moment of calm and comprehensive understanding unlike anything he had felt before. This experience mirrors those of many others who find such spontaneous events to be life-changing, often altering their perspectives on existence, spirituality, and the nature of consciousness.
The conversation delves into the broader implications of OBEs for understanding life, death, and the potential for consciousness to exist independently of the physical body. While Art remains cautious about drawing direct conclusions about the afterlife from his experience, William asserts that his extensive experiences with self-initiated OBEs provide personal evidence of an existence beyond physical death.
William’s approach to teaching others how to induce OBEs intentionally, through workshops and books, aims to empower individuals to explore these states with more control and purpose. This proactive engagement with OBEs not only demystifies the process but also opens up avenues for personal growth, spiritual exploration, and a deeper understanding of the multidimensional nature of reality.
William explains the profound potential of regular out-of-body experiences (OBEs) for personal exploration and understanding. He suggests that through OBEs, individuals can seek answers to existential questions regarding their origin, purpose, and destiny. He shares his own revelation of having past lives, including a vivid recollection of being a German officer during World War II, underscoring the depth of insight and knowledge accessible through these experiences.
William describes the process of leaving the body as going inward into the universe, emphasizing that consciousness is non-physical. This inward journey allows for encounters with higher aspects of oneself, leading to revelations and understandings beyond our linear, physical existence. He asserts that everyone experiences OBEs during sleep, though most do not remember them, suggesting a natural, albeit unconscious, exploration of non-physical dimensions.
The discussion also touches on the multidimensional nature of the universe, with William proposing that the physical world is just the surface layer of a much more complex, multi-dimensional continuum. He relates this to the concept of heaven, suggesting it refers to the inner worlds maintained and created by thought, where consciousness continues post-death.
Art and William explore the continuity of consciousness after death, with William affirming that one’s sense of self and awareness remains intact, though not necessarily tied to the physical ego. He shares personal experiences of encountering loved ones in their prime in these non-physical dimensions, highlighting the continuation of personal identity beyond the physical body.
The conversation delves into the implications of quantum physics on our understanding of reality, suggesting that matter, as traditionally conceived, is a misnomer, with everything being energy in motion. William addresses the challenge of grasping other dimensions and the concept of time, suggesting that the transition through death may not be as radical a change as one might expect, with most people finding themselves in a familiar, though non-physical, existence.
William describes it as a place where people continue to live lives similar to their physical existence but in a form made of different vibrations. This discussion underscores the continuity of identity and self-awareness beyond physical death, suggesting that individuals retain their sense of self, albeit in a different, non-physical form.
William addresses the concept of ghosts, explaining them as energy bodies from the astral plane that have slowed down their vibration rate to become briefly perceptible in the physical world. This perspective challenges traditional notions of ghosts, suggesting instead that we are constantly surrounded by entities on different vibrational frequencies that we cannot perceive with our physical senses.
Art reflects on William’s insights, contemplating the implications of redefining our understanding of life, death, and the existence of multiple dimensions or vibrational states. The conversation suggests a reality where the dead, and all that has ever existed, coexist with us in a different state, emphasizing the interconnectedness of all forms of consciousness.
The segment concludes with William urging individuals not to simply believe in these concepts but to explore and experience them firsthand. He emphasizes the importance of personal exploration over passive belief, encouraging listeners to engage with these ideas through their own out-of-body experiences.
William and Art explore how modern technology, specifically computers and screens with specific flicker rates, can influence the brain and potentially induce altered states of consciousness. This conversation highlights how visual and auditory stimuli, through their vibrational frequencies, can impact human perception and possibly facilitate the onset of OBEs.
The discussion also delves into the Monroe Institute’s research on sound as a powerful tool for inducing altered states and OBEs. William describes the use of binaural beats, where slightly different frequencies are played in each ear, leading the brain to create a third tone that can alter brainwave patterns and facilitate meditation or OBEs. This method is likened to the concept of using a tuning fork to synchronize brain frequencies, emphasizing the potential of sound to influence consciousness.
William addresses the safety concerns associated with OBEs, asserting that his own experiences since 1972 serve as evidence of their safety. He estimates having had hundreds of OBEs, emphasizing that once an individual becomes receptive to the experience, it becomes easier to enter such states. The conversation touches on the challenges of measuring the duration of OBEs in linear time, considering the difficulty of quantifying such experiences scientifically.
William and Art discuss research from Stanford University and the Monroe Institute, highlighting the challenges of studying OBEs due to the non-linear nature of time outside the physical body. William shares personal insights, suggesting that one can experience a lifetime within minutes of Earth time, emphasizing the profound difference in experience once outside the physical constraints.
The conversation shifts to address skepticism, particularly from the medical community, regarding the validity and interpretation of OBEs and dissociative states. A physician from New Orleans challenges the interpretation of these experiences as anything beyond natural neurochemical states. William responds by underscoring the importance of personal experience in understanding the true nature of OBEs, arguing that they cannot be fully appreciated or understood without direct experience.
Art shares a personal anecdote of a prolonged dissociative state during a record-breaking radio DJ session, questioning whether this experience was a form of reality shift. This story leads to a broader discussion on the nature of reality and the validity of experiences that fall outside traditional scientific explanation. William advocates for a personal exploration approach, encouraging listeners to try OBE-inducing techniques themselves to form their own conclusions.
The segment also touches on the use of substances like ketamine in inducing altered states or experiences similar to OBEs. William expresses a preference for natural induction methods, suggesting that drug-assisted experiences may lack the authenticity and self-discovery potential of naturally induced OBEs.
William and Art delve into the intriguing intersection of altered states of consciousness, including those induced by plant medicines and trauma, and their impact on experiencing out-of-body experiences (OBEs). William shares insights from his own experiences with shamanic plant medicines like ayahuasca, acknowledging their longstanding use in indigenous cultures for spiritual exploration. However, he personally recommends natural methods for inducing OBEs, emphasizing the importance of clarity and discernment in navigating these experiences.
They explore how intense stress situations, such as combat or surgery, can trigger OBEs. William shares compelling accounts from combat soldiers who experienced OBEs during moments of extreme trauma, providing vivid descriptions of observing their physical bodies and surroundings from an out-of-body perspective. These stories highlight the profound impact of OBEs on one’s understanding of consciousness and reality, especially in life-threatening situations.
Art and William discuss the potential for using modern technologies and techniques, like binaural beats, to safely induce OBEs, allowing individuals to explore non-physical dimensions of existence consciously. They emphasize the importance of personal experience in validating the authenticity and transformative power of OBEs, challenging listeners to explore these states through practice rather than taking them at face value.
William suggests a method involving waking up in the middle of the night to disrupt the sleep cycle and then engaging in a specific technique designed to facilitate the separation of consciousness from the physical body. William recommends moving to a different location, such as from the bed to the couch, to create a new environment that is not strongly associated with unconscious sleep. This change helps to recondition the mind’s expectation of sleep and encourages a state conducive to OBEs.
He describes a technique where one imagines being in a whirlpool, focusing on the sensation of spinning as the last conscious thought before falling asleep, combined with affirmations to reinforce the intention of having an OBE. The goal is to maintain this focused intention while allowing the body to relax and enter the vibrational state that often precedes the separation of consciousness.
William emphasizes the importance of relaxation and suggests that upon feeling a sensation of lightness or heaviness, one should try to roll sideways to break the energetic connection between the physical and non-physical bodies. Directing consciousness away from the physical body towards a specific object, like a door or window, can help facilitate the separation and initiate the OBE.
The conversation touches on the common experiences during the onset of an OBE, such as feeling vibrations, hearing noises, and experiencing a sense of discomfort. William notes that these sensations can be unsettling but are a normal part of the process leading up to the actual out-of-body experience. He mentions that people commonly report feeling a sense of floating or lifting, with the “rolling out” method being a frequent technique used to initiate the separation.
William addresses criticism from a skeptic who claims that OBEs open individuals up to potential dangers, spiritual or otherwise. William counters by highlighting the spiritual and out-of-body experiences described in religious texts, including Islam and Christianity, suggesting that such experiences have been foundational to many of the world’s religions.
The conversation then shifts to the precautions and spiritual protections one can take when attempting OBEs. William emphasizes that while there is potential for encountering negative experiences, this is akin to the risks present in the physical world. He teaches methods for spiritual protection in his workshops and acknowledges the importance of one’s mindset and fear level in shaping the OBE experience. According to William, thoughts and intentions play a crucial role in the reality one creates, both in the physical world and during OBEs.
William shares a personal anecdote about foreseeing a future event during an OBE, underscoring the concept that thoughts are creative forces that shape reality. This leads to a discussion about psychics and their ability to read the energy and thought forms surrounding a person, which William argues is similar to the insights gained during OBEs.
William and Art delve into how modern technologies, particularly computers, can alter one’s brainwave patterns and possibly make one more receptive to experiences on the edge of our normal reality, such as encountering shadow people. They discuss how prolonged focus on a computer screen can induce altered states of consciousness, similar to watching TV, potentially making individuals more susceptible to glimpsing entities from other vibrational states.
William explains that these phenomena, including poltergeist activity, may involve astral beings temporarily lowering their vibration to interact with the physical world. He suggests that such interactions are often brief and could be likened to astral children playing pranks.
The discussion also touches on electronic voice phenomena (EVP), with William asserting that these voices captured on recordings might originate from the same non-physical dimensions he’s been discussing. This connection further supports the idea that various paranormal phenomena are interrelated through the concept of vibrational states and consciousness.
Art prepares to open the phone lines for listeners to share their experiences, reflecting on the widespread nature of out-of-body experiences as indicated by William’s survey. The survey highlights common sensations associated with the onset of OBEs, such as jolts awake, hearing noises, feeling vibrations, sleep paralysis, and even encountering non-physical beings or deceased loved ones.
William and Art speculate about the future where humanity evolves beyond physical form, viewing life as a training ground for the soul’s development.
The conversation touches on whether science will eventually validate experiences currently dismissed by the mainstream. William expresses optimism that a convergence between scientific understanding and spiritual phenomena is just a matter of time.
Listeners call in, sharing their experiences that blur the lines between dreams and OBEs. One caller, a combat veteran, describes a dream that closely mirrors an OBE, viewing his physical body from an external perspective. William addresses the challenge of distinguishing between dreams and OBEs, suggesting that the presence of consciousness and the sensation of separation from the body are key indicators of an OBE. He emphasizes that societal conditioning often limits our understanding of consciousness, leading to interpretations of such experiences as mere dreams or fantasies.
Art shares a memorable flying dream, underscoring the commonality of such experiences and suggesting they might be more than just dreams. William posits that the sensation of suddenly “jerking awake” could be the rapid reentry of the astral body into the physical form, indicating a natural separation that occurs during sleep.
William discusses the potential evolutionary shift towards greater openness to psychic and out-of-body phenomena, suggesting that humanity may be moving towards a non-physical state of existence. This shift is seen as part of the soul’s development, with the physical realm serving as a training ground for soul growth. William expresses optimism that science will eventually align with and validate these spiritual experiences.
Listeners call in to share their experiences and seek advice. One caller describes witnessing his mother, who later recounted her soul wandering, indicating a physical sighting of someone in an out-of-body state. William confirms that such observations are common and relates them to the military’s interest in remote viewing, highlighting the Stargate program’s exploration of psychic spying.
The conversation then touches on the interconnectedness of various paranormal phenomena, with William emphasizing the role of a multi-dimensional universe in explaining these experiences. He asserts that this perspective aligns with modern physics theories, including superstring theory, suggesting a scientific basis for understanding these phenomena.
A caller from Missouri, paralyzed from the mid-chest down, shares his experiences with lucid and flying dreams, seeking advice for enhancing his astral travel experiences. William recommends using awareness and power phrases like “now use awareness” during these states to focus and prolong the experience. He also addresses a question about Robert Bruce’s book “Astral Dynamics,” acknowledging its value in exploring astral travel techniques.
William Buhlman suggests using “awareness now” as a mantra during altered states to focus and prolong the experience, highlighting the connection between all states of consciousness. William advises against form-based thoughts during OBEs to avoid limiting oneself and encourages thinking in terms of energy to facilitate movement and separation from the physical body.
Listeners call in with their experiences and questions. One caller from Albuquerque shares her lifelong positive experiences with OBEs, starting from a young age, and describes how these experiences have always been enlightening and devoid of negativity. Another caller, Tom from El Paso, asks about the practical aspects of OBEs, such as where one can go and how it can be useful. William responds that the possibilities are limitless and that one can seek answers to any question, including life’s purpose, during an OBE.
William discusses the potential to connect with deceased loved ones and access material information through out-of-body experiences (OBEs). He shares that by calling the name of a loved one who has passed, it’s possible to meet them if they’re open to it, based on his own experiences and those of others. This suggests that OBEs can provide not just spiritual insights but also practical, material information by leveraging thoughts as a creative force.
A caller inquires about winning lotteries using remote viewing, a topic William briefly experimented with, resulting in a vision of infinity symbols, which he interprets as being too unspecific in his request. This highlights the challenges and limitations of using OBEs for material gain.
Another caller from Toronto shares her experiences with OBEs and meditation, particularly how they’ve helped her cope with a degenerative disease. She questions whether it’s possible to visit unknown places during an OBE and later recognize them in physical reality, which William confirms, noting it’s a common experience that supports the notion of a multi-dimensional universe where future and past timelines are accessible.
The conversation also touches on the potential for healing during OBEs, with William mentioning that requests for healing can be made. Although a chapter on healing experiences was cut from his latest book due to length, he believes in the power of OBEs for physical and emotional healing.
The discussion expands to include the works of Madame Blavatsky and the Theosophical Society, with a caller inquiring about William’s familiarity with Theosophy. William acknowledges his awareness of Blavatsky’s work and other Theosophical writers, indicating his broad interest in spiritual and mystical traditions.
William continues to discuss the potential and significance of out-of-body experiences (OBEs), highlighting the societal and institutional reluctance to embrace and research these phenomena more broadly. Despite the growing interest and personal testimonies from individuals, the lack of widespread scientific research into OBEs is attributed to a combination of factors, including the challenge of monetizing such studies and prevailing skepticism within conventional frameworks.
Listeners call in to share their experiences and questions. One caller discusses an instance where he felt a natural and familiar ability to fly during a dream, which William affirms is a common sensation among those who have OBEs. This ability to fly, or perform actions with ease during an OBE, suggests a deep-seated knowledge or skill that transcends physical limitations, possibly indicating past experiences or abilities that are remembered subconsciously during such states.
The conversation also touches on the environmental and situational factors that can facilitate OBEs, such as being in unfamiliar locations or breaking routine. William advises altering one’s environment and habits to encourage the state of consciousness conducive to OBEs, emphasizing the importance of disrupting the conditioned expectation of remaining unconscious during sleep.
William and Art delve into the philosophical underpinnings of why humanity focuses so extensively on exploring the physical world while often neglecting the inner journey of consciousness exploration. They touch on the insights of historical figures like Buddha, who emphasized that the answers to life’s great questions lie within, suggesting that a shift in perspective from the external to the internal could lead to profound understanding and peace.
William likens the physical world to the Matrix, an illusionary construct that confines consciousness, echoing sentiments from the movie “The Matrix” about liberation from this illusion through experiences like out-of-body experiences (OBEs). This analogy underscores the transformative potential of OBEs to transcend the perceived limitations of physical reality.
Regarding his publications, William suggests that readers interested in exploring the subject of OBEs might start with either of his books. “Adventures Beyond the Body” offers a personal account of his experiences, while “The Secret of the Soul” provides a broader perspective based on the experiences of hundreds of others.