Art begins the show from Manila, reflecting on the week’s events, particularly the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hezbollah, noting the heavy combat and the tragic loss of Israeli soldiers despite a UN ceasefire plan. He discusses the plot to blow up jetliners, highlighting the critical terror threat in Britain and giving credit to intelligence agencies for their preventive actions, a rare acknowledgment of their successes. Art also shares a light-hearted moment with a listener’s unusual travel concern and provides updates on the precarious situation in Iraq, with numerous violent incidents and threats of biological contamination at airports. He ends by discussing the potentially explosive Mayon Volcano in the Philippines, emphasizing the seriousness of the situation while assuring listeners of his relative safety in Manila.
Art discusses the possibility of visiting the Mayon Volcano to take photographs, though his partner Erin is hesitant about the idea. He then transitions to the news, mentioning that the SETI@home project, which relies on the computing power of millions of volunteers to search for extraterrestrial life, is at risk of shutting down due to a lack of funds. He moves on to talk about alarming environmental issues, including the rapid melting of Greenland’s ice sheet and severe drought conditions affecting large parts of the United States. Art also highlights the expansion of a “dead zone” in the Gulf of Mexico, an area devoid of marine life due to human-caused pollution. As he prepares to open the lines for callers, he shares a bizarre story about a woman in Florida who claims to have colored fibers emerging from her skin, a condition that sounds like something out of a horror movie.
Art continues with the bizarre case of Morgellons disease, where fibers seemingly grow out of people’s skin, leaving both patients and doctors baffled and skeptical. He expresses curiosity about this strange condition, noting that it’s something he’s heard of but never fully understood. Transitioning to another topic, Art mentions the Vatican’s involvement with a high-tech telescope on Mount Graham in Arizona, wondering aloud what the Vatican might be searching for in the heavens. He then discusses the discovery of a pair of strange new worlds that challenge existing theories about the formation of planets and stars. To lighten the mood, Art shares a humorous piece called “Rules for Pets,” which humorously addresses the antics of dogs and cats around the house.
Art finishes the humorous “Rules for Pets” segment, lightening the mood before opening the phone lines for callers. The first caller asks about the Freemasons and their rumored secrets, leading Art to joke about the persistent rumors that he himself is a 33rd-degree Mason or a CIA member. He explains that denying such claims only fuels more speculation, so he has found it easier to simply go along with them. Another caller inquires about Art’s personal life, including his conversion to Catholicism, his marriage, and his experiences as a Caucasian living in the Philippines. Art shares that he met his wife through a mutual friend and discusses the diverse expatriate community in the Philippines, mentioning that Americans are not the largest group of retirees there. He also describes how he maintains a dark, atmospheric environment in his home studio to keep the ambiance similar to his old studio in the desert, despite now living in a tropical climate.
Art mentions taking a photograph of himself in his current work setup to share with his audience. He then takes a call from a listener in Dayton, Ohio, who recounts an unusual experience on 9/11, hearing loud explosions and seeing contrails that were later explained away as sonic booms. Art reflects on the anxiety brought on by recent news of attempted plane attacks in Britain, comparing it to the feelings evoked by the events of 9/11. Another caller expresses frustration about separating an artist’s work from their personal beliefs, mentioning Mel Gibson and George Noory as examples. Art advises the caller to be cautious in assuming that the views expressed by talk show hosts necessarily reflect their true beliefs, noting that the show often features nonstandard viewpoints for entertainment purposes.
Art advises his listeners to be discerning about what they believe from the show, acknowledging that while some content may be insightful and predictive, other parts could be complete nonsense. He takes a call from a listener in Canada who recalls a story about a woman arrested at the Swiss border with large sums of money who was allegedly linked to 9/11, but Art doubts the credibility of such a story, suggesting that if it were true, it would have caused a significant media uproar. He emphasizes his belief that 9/11 was not an inside job and that recent events, like the foiled plane attack in Britain, are proof that there are people who genuinely want to harm the West. Another caller shares a strange story about finding a car with hazardous materials and a hazmat suit, only to have the police dismiss it as nothing after a 911 operator refused to send help. Art expresses disbelief at the situation, noting how odd it is, especially in today’s heightened security environment.
Art takes a moment to appreciate the intelligence agencies for their often-unrecognized efforts in preventing potential disasters. He mentions that a new photograph of his studio setup is available on the show’s website, showcasing the dark ambiance in which he broadcasts. Art then introduces his guest, Neal Adams, a renowned figure in the comic book industry known for his work on characters like Batman and X-Men. However, Adams is now focused on a controversial scientific theory that the Earth is expanding, leading to increased gravity. Despite his background in comics, Adams explains his deep interest in science, which he has integrated into various aspects of his career, including amusement park design. The conversation begins to delve into Adams’ theory, drawing parallels with historical scientific ideas about the Earth’s continents.
Neal Adams elaborates on his theory that the Earth has expanded over millions of years, leading to the formation of the oceans and changes in gravity. He argues that the continents once fit together not only on one side of the Earth but also on the other, supporting the idea that the Earth’s surface has been expanding. He criticizes the conventional scientific explanation that the continents were once part of a single supercontinent surrounded by deep oceans, finding it illogical. Adams references the work of Samuel Warren Carey, an Australian geologist who proposed similar ideas but was dismissed by the scientific community. Adams further suggests that the large size of dinosaurs compared to today’s animals indicates that gravity was much weaker during their time, which aligns with his theory of an expanding Earth. He hints that this change in gravity could explain various geological and environmental shifts, including the rise of mountains and the development of rivers.
Neal Adams continues to explain his theory that the Earth was once much smaller, resulting in significantly lower gravity. He suggests that around 250 million years ago, the Earth was about one-quarter of its current size, which would mean that gravity was also about one-quarter of what it is today. This reduced gravity would have allowed massive dinosaurs like the Tyrannosaurus rex to move quickly and efficiently, something that would be impossible under today’s gravity. Adams uses this idea to resolve debates among scientists about whether the T. rex was a predator or a scavenger, arguing that with lower gravity, the dinosaur’s speed and agility would have been much greater, supporting the predator theory.
Adams further differentiates dinosaurs from reptiles, noting that dinosaurs had down-facing legs, allowing them to move in a more efficient, mammal-like manner. This adaptation, combined with their large size, would have made dinosaurs highly dominant in their time. However, he suggests that this dominance, coupled with the changes brought about by the Earth’s expansion and increased gravity, ultimately led to their extinction.
Neal Adams continues to explain his theory that during the age of the dinosaurs, the Earth was much smaller and had less gravity, resulting in a different climate with more consistent temperatures across the planet. This allowed dinosaurs to roam from the equator to the poles, unlike modern reptiles that are mostly confined to warmer equatorial regions. Adams argues that dinosaurs were superior creatures, evident in their behavior of laying eggs on the ground, which they could do without fear due to their dominance.
Art interjects, mentioning old stories and biblical references to giants, wondering if they might have existed due to the lower gravity of ancient Earth. Adams agrees that while the Earth grew slowly over hundreds of millions of years, this could have influenced the existence of giants. He suggests that dinosaurs might have migrated across hemispheres, similar to modern birds, which are considered the descendants of dinosaurs. This hemispherical migration could explain why birds today fly such long distances across the equator instead of just migrating to nearby warmer climates.
Neal Adams continues to describe how the dinosaurs’ ability to migrate across hemispheres was facilitated by their long, down-facing legs, which allowed them to move far and wide across the smaller, less-gravity Earth. He explains that reptiles, in contrast, were confined to regions around the equator. Adams points out that dinosaurs have been found in places as distant as Alaska and Antarctica, indicating their extensive range. He asserts that the Earth was once much smaller and that this smaller size and reduced gravity allowed dinosaurs to grow to massive sizes that wouldn’t be feasible under current conditions.
Adams touches on the idea that different scientific disciplines often fail to communicate effectively due to specialized jargon, which prevents a holistic understanding of theories like his. He emphasizes that to understand the Earth’s expansion and the conditions of the prehistoric world, one must consider insights from multiple fields, including geology, paleontology, physics, and engineering. According to Adams, the fact that dinosaurs existed with similar bone density to modern animals, despite their enormous size, supports his theory that gravity was much weaker in the past. He concludes by painting a picture of a smaller Earth with shallow seas covering much of the land, allowing dinosaurs to migrate and thrive across the planet.
Neal Adams expands on his theory by discussing the evolutionary pressures that led reptiles to evolve into dinosaurs. He explains that as the Earth’s climate began to change, some reptiles moved north or south, away from the equator, to escape the larger, more dangerous crocodilians that dominated equatorial regions. Over time, these migrating reptiles evolved into dinosaurs, with their long, down-facing legs allowing them to travel great distances. This ability to migrate and dominate different regions of the Earth gave dinosaurs a significant advantage, allowing them to spread across the globe.
Adams posits that dinosaurs were the most powerful creatures on Earth due to their ability to adapt and migrate. However, he suggests that as the Earth grew and the landmasses began to break apart, their migratory paths were disrupted, leading to a decline in their populations. Although it may seem that dinosaurs went extinct suddenly, Adams argues that their numbers had been dwindling over millions of years due to the increasing difficulty of migrating between continents.
He also discusses how the rise of mammals and marsupials, which evolved in the north and south respectively, further contributed to the dinosaurs’ decline. These mammals, being egg eaters, posed a significant threat to dinosaurs that laid their eggs on the ground. Adams points out that while a meteor impact may have contributed to the dinosaurs’ extinction, it was the gradual evolutionary changes and the Earth’s expansion that ultimately led to their downfall.
Neal Adams elaborates on the idea that as the Earth’s continents broke apart and mountains began to form, the advantages that dinosaurs once held started to diminish. Dinosaurs, with their long tails and necks, were vulnerable to cold and other environmental changes, which made them less adaptable than mammals. As mammals became more aggressive and began preying on dinosaur eggs, the dinosaur population rapidly declined. Meanwhile, reptiles and birds, which had different survival strategies, managed to persist.
Adams attributes the separation of landmasses and the formation of mountains to the Earth’s growth. He explains that the idea of a growing Earth has far-reaching implications, suggesting that if Earth is growing, then all planets, moons, suns, and galaxies must also be growing, challenging the Big Bang theory. Art Bell, the host, raises a crucial point, questioning why, if the Earth is growing, we haven’t detected this growth with the precise measurements taken by satellites. Adams acknowledges this challenge and admits that despite extensive investigation, clear evidence of such growth remains elusive, though he is actively researching the issue with the help of a geologist.
Neal Adams continues to explore the concept of the Earth’s growth by discussing the challenges of measuring such growth. He acknowledges that while satellites and other instruments can measure various aspects of the Earth, the data might not always be straightforward or accurate. He mentions that Samuel Warren Carey, a scientist who proposed a similar theory, found evidence of Earth’s growth years ago, estimating an increase of about six to eight inches per year. Adams admits that confirming this growth is complex and involves adjusting for discrepancies in measurements.
Art Bell then asks about the underlying physics that could explain the Earth’s growth. Adams references Carl David Anderson, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist, who discovered the positron in 1932. Anderson was studying cosmic rays and observed that matter could be created seemingly out of nothing, with positrons appearing spontaneously. However, these positrons quickly annihilate when they come into contact with electrons, leading to the destruction of matter as quickly as it is formed. This concept of matter creation and annihilation, though perplexing, suggests that under certain conditions, matter can emerge, which Adams hints might be a key to understanding the Earth’s growth.
Neal Adams continues to elaborate on the concept of continuous creation, where positrons and electrons are spontaneously created from what seems like nothing, happening everywhere around us all the time. He explains that this phenomenon suggests that the universe might be filled with a kind of “supreme matter” that energy impacts to create these particles. This idea challenges the Big Bang theory, which posits that the universe began from a single, massive explosion. Adams dismisses the Big Bang theory as nonsense, arguing that if everything we know starts small and grows, then the universe could have done the same.
Adams points out that some scientists believe the echoes of the Big Bang can still be detected, but he suggests that what they are actually observing might be the continuous process of matter creation rather than remnants of an ancient explosion. He emphasizes the importance of real, observable phenomena, like Carl David Anderson’s discovery of matter creation, over abstract theories. Adams also critiques the scientific conclusion that positrons and electrons annihilate each other, proposing instead that these particles might just disappear from our detection, implying a more complex and less understood process at play.
He ends by discussing how we perceive matter, noting that what we identify as solid objects are actually defined by electromagnetic fields rather than the matter itself, further complicating our understanding of what happens when matter appears and disappears in the universe.
Neal Adams delves deeper into the idea that our perception of matter is based on electromagnetic fields, not the actual atoms themselves. He explains that when you touch a desk, it’s not the atoms of your hand touching the atoms of the desk, but rather the electromagnetic fields interacting. This leads to a discussion on how matter might be created from what he calls “prime matter,” a concept that suggests the universe is filled with an invisible substance that can be converted into matter through certain processes.
Adams compares this to a cotton pod that bursts open, revealing cotton, much like how prime matter might release particles that become recognizable as matter. He speculates that this could be related to what physicists call dark matter, which makes up a significant portion of the universe. While he remains cautious about definitively linking his theory to dark matter, he acknowledges the intriguing possibility.
Adams also discusses how, from positrons and electrons, larger particles like protons might be formed, leading to the creation of all matter in the universe. He emphasizes that while these ideas are grounded in observable phenomena, such as Carl David Anderson’s experiments, they also challenge established scientific theories like the Big Bang.
Art Bell, reflecting on the discussion, notes that continuous creation as a theory makes sense to him but laments that it lacks empirical proof. He finds the concept intriguing, suggesting that it might bridge the gap between the steady-state universe theory and the Big Bang theory, though the challenge remains in finding a way to prove that the universe and everything in it is indeed growing.
Neal Adams continues discussing the implications of his theory of a growing Earth, suggesting that as the Earth expands, gravity increases, which could have been a factor in the extinction of the dinosaurs. He humorously reassures listeners that, despite this ongoing process, humans don’t need to worry about becoming slugs due to high gravity anytime soon, as the Earth’s growth is relatively slow.
Adams addresses a listener’s question about the source of the water that filled the oceans as the Earth expanded. He proposes that as matter is created inside the Earth, gases like hydrogen and oxygen rise to the surface, where they combine to form water. This water then falls to the Earth as rain, contributing to the growth of the oceans. Adams likens this process to natural growth, like that of a tree, suggesting that as the Earth grows, so does the amount of water and other materials on the planet.
Another listener asks why, if the Earth and the Moon are both growing, the Moon isn’t moving closer to the Earth. Adams explains that while the Moon is indeed moving away from the Earth, this can be explained by the increasing mass of the Moon, which enhances its centrifugal force, causing it to recede. He also touches on the idea that this process is balanced by the Earth’s growing gravitational pull.
Adams humorously notes that while discussing particle physics, most listeners might be nodding off, but he emphasizes that the core of his theory revolves around electromagnetic forces between electrons and positrons, which he believes are fundamental to understanding the behavior of celestial bodies and their movements.
Neal Adams discusses the idea that electromagnetic lines extend around celestial bodies, such as the Earth and the Sun, influencing the positions and movements of planets and moons. He explains that the Sun, being the largest electromagnet in the solar system, has electromagnetic lines that planets align with, which could explain why planets are spaced at specific distances from the Sun. He suggests that as the Earth and Moon grow, these electromagnetic lines shift, causing the Moon to move further away from the Earth.
Adams then touches on Richard Hoagland’s theory that planets generate their own energy from within, rather than solely relying on the Sun. Adams connects this idea to his own theory, explaining that the Sun emits vast amounts of matter, which contributes to the growth of meteorites, moons, and planets. He compares this process to how geodes form, with materials filling spaces within a meteorite and causing it to grow outward.
As these bodies grow and begin to spin, they generate energy internally, further accelerating their growth. Adams likens this to a natural progression where celestial bodies, like children, start growing independently after being “fed” by the Sun. He critiques older scientific theories that suggested the solar system formed from pre-existing chunks of matter, arguing that the early universe was much more primitive and that matter likely formed and grew in a more dynamic and complex way.
Neal Adams addresses a question about whether the process of continuous creation could account for climate change. He admits that while he doesn’t know for certain, he believes that humans are significantly impacting the climate and that shifting to cleaner energy sources like hydrogen could mitigate some of the damage. He also suggests that the Earth’s continuous growth might influence the climate, although this process is slow compared to human lifespans.
Adams then shares his thoughts on how scientists often overlook or underemphasize extraordinary facts about Earth’s history, such as the relatively recent formation of the Rocky Mountains, which began about 40 million years ago, well after the dinosaurs became extinct. He criticizes the Pangea theory, particularly the idea that the Earth’s landmasses split in a way that left a large, unexplained gap in the middle, known as the Tethys Sea. Adams finds the explanations provided by conventional geology inadequate and even misleading, especially regarding the supposed subduction zones that should exist where the Tethys Sea was, but don’t.
He illustrates his point by describing how scientists claim that continents like Antarctica and North America moved apart in a way that doesn’t align with observable evidence, such as the lack of a subduction zone in the Mediterranean area. Adams concludes by implying that some widely accepted scientific theories might be based on incorrect assumptions or incomplete evidence.
Neal Adams discusses the relatively short existence of the dinosaur species “Terra Carr” during a period when, according to geology, the Tethys Sea was 2,000 miles wide. As Art Bell prepares to open the discussion to the audience, he acknowledges that Adams’s theory of continuous creation holds as much weight as the steady-state or Big Bang theories, given that none of these theories have been conclusively proven.
Adams then talks about his efforts to prove the continuous creation theory, explaining that he is personally funding research to measure Earth’s growth over a ten-year period. He describes the process as difficult, with the data often contradictory. For example, in 2002, it was reported that the Earth’s equator was expanding for several years, but this was later attributed to a hypothetical pressure on the Earth’s poles—a theory Adams finds unconvincing.
A caller from Harrisburg, Charles, brings up the topic of evolution, mentioning how the geological timeline and evolution have been widely accepted without sufficient challenge. Adams responds by noting that while continuous creation is consistent with evolution, there are differing views, some of which question the traditional understanding of Earth’s history. The conversation hints at the broader debate between different scientific and philosophical interpretations of Earth’s origins and development.
Neal Adams continues the conversation by addressing a caller’s concerns about the impact of evolutionary theory on religious faith. Adams expresses skepticism that the age of the Earth could influence someone’s faith, though he acknowledges that some people feel strongly about this issue.
Another caller praises Adams for his work and asks him to share how he got involved in his research and his thoughts on the works of authors like Immanuel Velikovsky and Michael Cremo, who have explored unconventional theories in archaeology and science. Adams explains that his interest in science and the work of geologist Samuel Warren Carey, who proposed the idea of an expanding Earth, were key influences. Adams found Carey’s theories compelling and was surprised that they were not widely accepted or explored.
Adams describes his journey of investigating these ideas independently, avoiding influence from other controversial theories to form his own conclusions. He likens his process to assembling a large puzzle, where all the pieces—scientific data, observations, and logical connections—fit together to support the idea of a growing Earth. He acknowledges that there are many findings in archaeology and paleontology, like the discovery of dinosaur bones in Antarctica, that challenge traditional scientific views but are often ignored or downplayed.
Adams emphasizes the importance of considering all evidence, even if it contradicts mainstream scientific thought, and expresses his continued interest in exploring these unconventional findings.
Neal Adams continues his discussion by addressing how a specific species, the Terra Carr, was found in both France and Africa, despite there being a vast ocean between these regions during the time this dinosaur lived. He criticizes the explanation that large dinosaurs could have crossed oceans on “vegetable mats,” finding it implausible.
Another caller from Hawaii expresses how Adams’s ideas resonate with him, noting that basic truths are often simple. The caller attempts to draw connections between Adams’s theory and the idea that oil might be continuously created within the Earth, a notion Adams is open to. Adams acknowledges that if hydrogen is being generated at the Earth’s core, it could combine with carbon to form hydrocarbons (like oil), which could explain the seemingly endless supply of oil. However, he stresses that regardless of oil’s origin, burning it harms the environment and that moving to hydrogen energy would be a better solution.
Finally, a listener from San Jose asks if continuous creation would alter the ratio of hydrogen to other elements in the universe. Adams responds that the ratios would remain consistent because all elements would be created in similar proportions, with hydrogen naturally being the most abundant element due to its simplicity and the early stages of the universe focusing on its creation before heavier elements were formed.
Neal Adams discusses the concept of continuous creation in relation to oil, acknowledging that while oil may be continually created within the Earth, it might not be at a rate that can sustain our current usage. He also mentions that history has shown that oil supplies have continued to grow, despite predictions of depletion, but emphasizes that burning oil is harmful to the environment.
Adams then shifts to explaining salt domes, which are large underground formations of solid salt. He challenges the conventional explanation that salt domes are the result of evaporated seas, finding it implausible. Instead, he suggests that salt domes could be formed from gases like sodium and chlorine that seep up through the Earth and combine as they cool, similar to how crystals grow. According to Adams, this would mean that the shallow seas during the age of the dinosaurs were likely freshwater, with salt only entering the oceans through deep cracks as the Earth grew and oceans formed.
Neal Adams continues to engage with listeners, addressing various questions and theories. One caller discusses a concept where the universe is expanding in a way that everything grows proportionally, making the expansion unnoticeable. Adams disagrees, explaining that what is happening is not atoms growing, but mass being added to the universe.
Another caller delves into biblical references to giants and their potential connection to ancient events, while another inquires about the possibility of designing experiments to test Adams’s expanding Earth theory. Adams acknowledges that while measuring the Earth’s growth has been attempted, definitive proof remains elusive. He highlights the challenges in proving such a theory and mentions that his work focuses on presenting logical evidence and pointing out contradictions in current scientific explanations, such as the idea of Pangea and the unexplained disappearance of large portions of the Earth’s surface.
Adams emphasizes that his approach has been to gather evidence from various scientific fields, fitting them together to create a cohesive picture that challenges mainstream scientific thought, even if definitive proof has yet to be universally accepted.
Neal Adams continues his discussion by addressing the concept of Pangea and the contradictions in current scientific theories. He explains that if all the dense granitic and basaltic rocks of Pangea were concentrated on one side of the Earth, it would have caused a significant shift in the Earth’s center of gravity, making the middle of the Pacific Ocean rise above water and Pangea sink below it. He argues that this is not explainable by current science.
A caller suggests that dinosaurs, if given more time, could have evolved into highly intelligent beings, but Adams points out that the very advantages that made dinosaurs dominant may have also led to their downfall when the world changed. He discusses how mammals, with their fur and ability to burrow and give birth to live young, had advantages that allowed them to survive environmental changes that dinosaurs could not.
Another caller mentions the works of Immanuel Velikovsky, who theorized that Venus was once a comet that passed close to Earth, causing major cataclysmic events. Adams politely disagrees with this theory, noting that Venus is a planet with a stable orbit, making the idea of it being a comet unlikely.
Adams wraps up by encouraging listeners to visit his website to explore his theories further, noting that many misconceptions and misinterpretations exist in both science and popular theories about Earth’s history.
In the final segment, Neal Adams responds to a caller who links his scientific discussions with spiritual beliefs. The caller appreciates Adams’s ideas, finding them resonant with his own view of living in a spiritual realm while existing in a physical form. Adams briefly touches on the role of God in the universe, suggesting that if the universe was created, then God has a clear place in it. However, if the universe always existed, it raises questions about where God fits in.
Art Bell closes the show, acknowledging that while Adams’s theories may not be backed by hard science, they are as plausible as any other theory in the field.